2wd Regional Ledbury

[Pownabown]

Right folks Round 2 of the regional series is this coming sunday.

We will be running an astro track layout for this event and hoping to create something that everyone will enjoy.

Best tyre options is ballistic greens in the wet or yellow mini spike for dry weather, our astro is fairly high grip so am sure you will all enjoy it.

Anyone is welcome to camp the night before, just drop me a PM if you would like to camp.

Gates open from 7am.

Booking in at 8am

There is a water tap on the entrance to the farm by the main building if anyone needs to use this.

Any questions feel free to ask.

The track is also sign posted so you shouldnt have a problem finding us.

Any more details visit www.ledburymodelcarclub.moonfruit.com (http://www.ledburymodelcarclub.moonfruit.com)

[Pownabown]

Right folks thanks to the help of Ledbury members and Roger and co we now have the layout complete for sundays meeting.

There is only a couple of puddles in the bomb hole so we have designed around this so even if we have rain all week and weekend the track is good to race on.

For lap times guys I think you will be looking at a 30second lap around abouts.

looking forward to sunday now

[tdi250]

Hello,

Excuse my ignorance if this is a daft question but will there be anybody there on Sunday selling tyres etc as I have had time to sort out tyres for the meeting?

Wes

[MatJohnson]

Dan Holmes of Pitside fame is booked in so there should be tyres in his shop

[tdi250]

Thanks

Wes

[RogerM]

Track is really good, great balance of fast and slower sections with lots of technical bits thrown in. Air time is sensible and most of the features have a risk-&-reward bias. I am really looking forward to it :)

Track is at least 2.5m all round as per the rules & Nathan & helpers went to great lengths to make sure everything else was as good as it can be (marshal points, line of sight from the rostrum, being able to see / judge landing points especially, track marking lashings etc etc.).

I know some people have concerns about access to the track, especially in wet conditions. It was howling down when I got there last night & again when I left and I had no trouble getting on or off site with my car, neither did any of the others. Care will be required on the drive to the track if you run a VERY low car as the driveway has potholed a bit but I can't see it being a problem for any of the vehicles I normally see parked up at meetings.

The track surface at Ledbury is hardly effected by the rain and as Nathan has already said the only feature that occassionally pools is excluded from this layout so there is no need to have any fear that weather may stop play.

Last point ... be warned that the scrutineer is VERY strict so make sure your all legal before you go ;)

[tdi250]

Talking about being legal.....

Does anyone know if I will struggle to get my mad rat in the box? As i've read others having issues at times.

Wes

[RogerM]

Best to ask the question in the Ansmann section. I believe (not sure) that the front stub axles need to be ground down a touch. We'll help you if needs be, best to check as soon as the kit is set up and you wouldn't be stopped from practicing (if I understand the rules) so there is plenty of time to get it sorted.

Alex Springer will be there on the day (Ansmann team leader)

[Smartalec]

Talking about being legal.....

Does anyone know if I will struggle to get my mad rat in the box? As i've read others having issues at times.

Wes

Hi mate, come and find me on Sunday morning and we'll have a look and get it legal for you no problems :thumbsup:

I'll be in the Ansmann gazebo, should be there before 7.30 :)

[tdi250]

Wow, thanks guys thats wicked!

i'll come track you down!

Wes

[neiloliver]

I think we are going to get VERY wet on Sunday. Nathan - is there a way of letting people know if you have to cancel? Do you expect we will be able to get on and off the field given the amount of rain we are having?

Neil

[adon30]

The forcast for Sunday is twice the amount of rain we've had this morning and that's just overnight before we get there and it will continue all day. It is also going to be quite windy.
If someone can check what conditions are like now and assess it because if it is not useable now there is no chance on Sunday.
As much as I want to race at Ledbury I don't want to have to do the trip only to find out it has been cancelled on the morning.

[dale]

The forcast for Sunday is twice the amount of rain we've had this morning and that's just overnight before we get there and it will continue all day. It is also going to be quite windy.
If someone can check what conditions are like now and assess it because if it is not useable now there is no chance on Sunday.
As much as I want to race at Ledbury I don't want to have to do the trip only to find out it has been cancelled on the morning.

+1.

There's a club meeting at Coventry on Sunday so if we know in advance that Ledbury is unusable we can make other plans.

[RogerM]

The track drains very well, the only feature that might have been an issue has been avoided in the layout.

The car parking area "might" get a little muddy BUT should NOT be a problem so long as people drive sensibly (no big wheel-spins else you can dig yourself out ;) ).

I personally see that there is no reason to cancel this meeting BUT if it does need to be I am sure Nathan will let us know.
Might take a spin out there tomorrow evening and have a look if Nathan can't do this.

[Pownabown]

Weve not had any rain today and so far the track and field is bone dry.

I cant see as we would need to cancel.
The track will hold up no problem and in Ledbury area we dont seem to get much rain compared with other areas so i think everything is good to go.

Also Just checked weather forecast and no rain due today or tomorrow here but slight showers in the afternoon on sunday so I wouldnt worry

[Dan Holmes]

Just a not all.. Pitside will be there on Sunday in all its GLORY!!! Well no Rat van at themoment as its off the road. so look out for A WHITE VIVARO.. Will be pitting in Yardys tent if anyone wants tyres I have flipping tons nd tons and tons..

[neiloliver]

I am sure it will be lovely :)

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=ledbury

[tdi250]

Lol!!

Sunday looks gorgeous!

I'm getting me wellies out!!

[MatJohnson]

Enjoy folks, looks moist :-)

[tdi250]

This will be my first regional for 17 years so i'm gunna bloody enjoy it come rain or shine!! (Probably rain!)

Wes

[Slinga]

Just checked the forecast on the met office website and it says 80% chance of rain all day Sunday with strong winds of upto 45-50mph

Ok you are all saying the track drains well and the feature that is a prob in the rain has been avoided...
but standing on the rostrum racing in strong wind and rain isn't much fun

Also for those of us in the east of the mid-west region an hour to hour and half drive away won't be much fun getting there in the driving rain

Surely these conditions call for the meeting to be postponed to the reserve date of the 12th of August
after all isn't this what the reserve date is for?

Slinga

[Wacker 2]

Totally agree Slinga...

I raced last years regional at Ledbury and it was wet then... wasn't so bad tho as the rain was only very fine misty on/off rain and the track grip stayed pretty good.

Even then, they had a drivers briefing between qualifying and finals to discuss whether they were to run the finals or not due to the weather.

Well the weather tomorrow is looking to be far far worse than it was last year so surely the correct decision is to cancel the meeting for tomorrow and reschedule for the reserve date.

At least that way everybody will have an enjoyable days racing when the weather is a lot better in August - it makes sense!!!

[Pownabown]

I can't see the need for cancelling a meeting when we haven't had any rain for the last three days. We were predicted heavy rain all week here but we haven't had any thus far.

Unless Im told otherwise all is going ahead

[Smartalec]

You can't cancel a meeting because the weather forecast is wet!!!!! If you did that in this country we'd never race. :confused:

The organisers have made a decision, they say the track and surrounding area will hold up so I suggest those that don't want to get out of bed in the morning or wish to go somewhere else do just that and leave the others that want to take a risk on the great British weather to make their way to sunny Ledbury and see how it goes, no one is forcing anyone to race.

And I have a two hour journey by the way :)

[Slinga]

I don't mind racing in the "wet" or drizzle... just not wind and rain like is forecast

Wonder what the reserve date is for?:confused:

Good luck to all that risk it

[The Pookster]

I'm likely not to bother. Driving rain, 4 degC with 45 mph gusts. I don't mind a bit of rain, or a bit of cold, or a bit of wind. But not all at the same time.

[Smartalec]

I don't mind racing in the "wet" or drizzle... just not wind and rain like is forecast

Wonder what the reserve date is for?:confused:

Good luck to all that risk it

The reserve date is for meetings that are cancelled, a meeting can't be cancelled because of something that 'might' happen. If the weather turns out to be bad and it's cancelled then the reserve date will be used :thumbsup:

Local weather forecast here says wet and windy all day, it's now 2.40 and there's been barely enough rain to get the grass wet so far and no wind. They get it wrong all the time so hopefully tomorrow is no exception. If they are right and it's bad then I'll see you all on the reserve date :)

[OldTimer]

Well i have cancelled, 1 1/2-2 hour drive, 1 to 2 inch's of rain and gale force winds is not my idea of fun.

If you want to see whats heading are way have a look at the link below and what is over france is coming our way.

http://www.weathercast.co.uk/radar/europe.html

Btw Alec the met office has issued a amber weather warning for the west midlands, they don't do that for a bit of rain ;)

To the guys racing tomorrow have a fun time and be safe.

[Smartalec]

Well i have cancelled, 1 1/2-2 hour drive, 1 to 2 inch's of rain and gale force winds is not my idea of fun.

If you want to see whats heading are way have a look at the link below and what is over france is coming our way.

http://www.weathercast.co.uk/radar/europe.html

Btw Alec the met office has issued a amber weather warning for the west midlands, they don't do that for a bit of rain ;)

To the guys racing tomorrow have a fun time and be safe.

As I said, you can't cancel a meeting BEFORE it happens or we would never leave the house. The post above from Nathan says the local weather has been ok and that tomorrow's is ok too, I'll take a gamble and make the trip unless the organisers say otherwise before I leave in the morning. I'm guessing that if there is a problem then a post on here EARLY in the morning would prevent anyone from making an unnecessary trip :thumbsup:

[OldTimer]

No problem alec everyone has the choice to go or not, my loss if its bright and sunny and you have a great days racing. But just in case wrap up warm as it will feel like 2deg C with the wind chill and bring your wellingtons. I am trust the met office on this one for a change.

[Smartalec]

No problem alec everyone has the choice to go or not, my loss if its bright and sunny and you have a great days racing. But just in case wrap up warm as it will feel like 2deg C with the wind chill and bring your wellingtons. I am trust the met office on this one for a change.

Fishing clothing all ready and waiting ......... And waders :lol:

[mdb_75]

I'm not too woried about racing in the rain, but I am concerned about getting back out of the field when it's time to leave. 60+ cars are going to make a mess nomatter how carefully they're driven in.....

[Wacker 2]

I wont be attending... the met office forecasts have been spot on all week where I am in Leicester so I'm trusting them on tomorrow too.

I too share the concerns regarding the cars entering and leaving the grounds... last year was tricky enough and the weather was nowhere near as bad as predicted tomorrow.

Regarding the cancellation of a meeting... you cannot make that decision in the morning as there are a lot of people like me that would need to be leaving at around 5.30am in the morning - therefore in situations like this the decision should be officially made the night before!. I think its unfair of the organisers to expect many people to drive 2 hours to get there just to be told when we get there that the meetings off, and then having to drive 2 hours back home again!

[andoiwebb]

If anyone is planning to turn up and vote to cancel after 2 rounds, please don't bother coming, I want to get a full day of racing in.

[Yardeeee]

I wont be attending... the met office forecasts have been spot on all week where I am in Leicester so I'm trusting them on tomorrow too.

I too share the concerns regarding the cars entering and leaving the grounds... last year was tricky enough and the weather was nowhere near as bad as predicted tomorrow.

Regarding the cancellation of a meeting... you cannot make that decision in the morning as there are a lot of people like me that would need to be leaving at around 5.30am in the morning - therefore in situations like this the decision should be officially made the night before!. I think its unfair of the organisers to expect many people to drive 2 hours to get there just to be told when we get there that the meetings off, and then having to drive 2 hours back home again!

Attendance is not mandatory - but if you're not coming, at least have the decency to cancel so we're not hassled in the morning.

It is fine saying "you should cancel the night before..." it isn't that easy. I have 78 people still entered for tomorrow, the fact they are entered shows me they have a willingness to compete. I am in talks with the guys who run the club, they are experienced people and know their track and surrounding area better than any of us. I have to trust their thoughts.

At the moment, they are not giving me any reason to believe cancellation is necessary, a forecast is a forecast, it is not gospel. If we do feel that safety becomes an issue, we will make the necessary call, until then, make your own choice and don't criticise anyone else trying to do the right thing for the good of the series and its competitors.

[dale]

If anyone is planning to turn up and vote to cancel after 2 rounds, please don't bother coming, I want to get a full day of racing in.

Damn right. It's going to be cold, wet and windy tomorrow. Anyone who turns up and wants to cancel because it's cold, wet and windy should be thrown onto the field and used to soak up the water. The rest of us can get on with some racing :thumbsup:

[keithm1]

I agree,i dont want to drive for 2 hours and race for 10 mins for it to be called off,i would rather know now or later tonight.After the drive we face i would want a full days racing at least.

[HarlowS]

If anyone has any spare Clodbusters lying around can they bring them just incase we need to be towed out the field :thumbsup:

[andoiwebb]

Harlow has already admitted to me that he wants to do 2 rounds and vote to go home, he's a cissy!

[HarlowS]

Webb has already admitted to me that he doesn't want people to go so he can make the B.

[RandomConflict]

I too have succumb to the weather. Cancellation e-mail sent to the address for Nathan on the BRCA Mid West website. Just can't justify the distance to drive with the predicted weather, along with the chance of damaging valuable equipment especially as I'm currently racing on a limited budget.

Hope all works out for you guys and the weather is nicer than predicted!

Have a great day all and see you at the next one!

Alex

[big_whyman]

I too have succumb to the weather. Cancellation e-mail sent to the address for Nathan on the BRCA Mid West website. Just can't justify the distance to drive with the predicted weather, along with the chance of damaging valuable equipment especially as I'm currently racing on a limited budget.

Hope all works out for you guys and the weather is nicer than predicted!

Have a great day all and see you at the next one!

Alex

Cancellations need to be sent to Tom Yardy tomyardy@sky.com

[luniemiester]

Harlow has already admitted to me that he wants to do 2 rounds and vote to go home, he's a cissy!

Err didn't you go home early from rhr today webby (so my spies inform me!!!)

[mattybucks]

If anyone is planning to turn up and vote to cancel after 2 rounds, please don't bother coming, I want to get a full day of racing in.

Now that's the spirit!! We are British and proud of it. For centurys we have battled the elements and emerged victorious!!

[Fletch248]

i don't know what all the fuss is about.. i can not wait will be a good day im sure.. going to be interesting with a fully open rostrum.. might have to bring the motocross goggles

[russmini]

Well... As usual, i leave things to the last minute, but had one of those days....

Let the build of the buggy begin for tomorrow, lol


:thumbsup:

[keithm1]

Does anybody know wether there is a food bar on site?

[RandomConflict]

Cancellations need to be sent to Tom Yardy tomyardy@sky.com

Cheers big_whyman!

[andoiwebb]

Yes, but it's ok, I've got loads of excuses.

[andoiwebb]

Err didn't you go home early from rhr today webby (so my spies inform me!!!)

Yes, but it's ok, I've got loads of excuses!

[teambowen]

I live local to the track and also been to Worcester.
We have seen no rain today and as for tomorrow, the forecast says light scattered showers guys.

Take a look here.
It also says heavy rain for today when theirs been none
Your guess is as good as anyones.

Jamie.

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=uk7dayx7;page=5;type=free;ct=~HR8

[HarlowS]

lol light scattered showers ??? It says 7.4m and Heavy ?:woot:

[mdb_75]

I live local to the track and also been to Worcester.
We have seen no rain today and as for tomorrow, the forecast says light scattered showers guys.

Take a look here.
It also says heavy rain for today when theirs been none
Your guess is as good as anyones.

Jamie.

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=uk7dayx7;page=5;type=free;ct=~HR8 (http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=uk7dayx7;page=5;type=free;ct=%7EH R8)

You've got that on next Wednesday! Tomorrow says moderate showers then heavy.......

[neiloliver]

7.4m of rain! bloody hell!

[Big G]

ah well it's not that far for me so I'll be turning up

[mdb_75]

Me too, we've just been to Tesco and bought two packs of blutack. :lol:

[tdi250]

I'm really looking forward to it, bought a new shell and sprayed it up today especially for the occasion. Brand new demon lipo arrive this morning too!

Bring it on!!!

[teambowen]

lol sorry.
http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=uk7dayx7;page=2;ct=~HR8;sess=#for ecast

7.4mm of rain but hay..

J

[russmini]

Well, i'm good to go, at last.....

Hopefully see you all tomorrow. Please Mr Weather Man, be wrong and let it be........ Sunny :-)


:thumbsup:

[Pownabown]

still no rain here and only a slight bit of wind nothing much.

Tracks been tidyed up today and all set ready for the morning.

Looking forward to a great days racing am sure you will enjoy the track layout :)

Also we have a couple of people camping out there tonight and they dont seem fazed at all by weather

[steve_haskins]

Assume it's on then

[neiloliver]

im leaving shrewsbury in 20 minutes... its stair-rods, cats and dogs etc etc here. fingers crossed for the Ledbury micro-climate.

N

[russmini]

Man, I don't wanna leave my bed, it sounds atrocious out there... Hope its a different world 45 miles away in Ledbury :-)

How did the campers fair last night? One things for sure, they'd have got very cold and wet and probably had no tent left, had they been camping here :-(

[andoiwebb]

The tents are still up, not sure if there are any survivors.

[Slinga]

weather looks as forcast here in leicester

whats the "micro-climate" of ledbury like??

i hope you take plenty of pics neil :) but don't get your camera too wet

[styleone]

It is as wet as a fishermans top lip down here. I just saw Dave Williams dressed as Finding Nimo down by the back straight! :)

[OldTimer]

There very brave camping, weather is as predicted and the M1 is flooded near me !. I think i made the right call, going to watch the MotoGP and BTCC soon :lol:

Alec did you also go in the 4wd ?.

[tyreman]

We got there and the meeting was going ahead, then after about 30 minutes there was a meeting, and 15 minutes after that most people were in McDonalds.

The whole it hasn't been raining here was absolute bollocks as the surrounding fields along the M50 were flooded, the access road to the track had a steady flow of water running down it, and the far end of the grass track and the field next to it were totally flooded and under water, and the river under the rostrum was overflowing by the grass track:mad::thumbdown::thumbdown:

Rant over

[Fletch248]

well lets be honest there is nothing any of us could have done as you never know what the uk weather is going to be like until the day. as i have heard that tomorrow will be 17 degrees... i would have like it if we could run the regional next weekend instead of moving it to august

[neiloliver]

Well the English breakfast at the M5 services was nice :thumbsup: but very expensive :thumbdown:

It was the right decision to cancel given the circumstances.

Did anyone see the Porsche on the M5? that guy REALLY had a bad day...

N

[adam_u]

We got there and the meeting was going ahead, then after about 30 minutes there was a meeting, and 15 minutes after that most people were in McDonalds.

The whole it hasn't been raining here was absolute bollocks as the surrounding fields along the M50 were flooded, the access road to the track had a steady flow of water running down it, and the far end of the grass track and the field next to it were totally flooded and under water, and the river under the rostrum was overflowing by the grass track:mad::thumbdown::thumbdown:

Rant over

But to be fair the condition of the fields along the M50, the grass track and the access road is irrelevant as if it hadn't of been tipping it down all morning before and when we arrived then we could have raced on the astro no problem - nobody got stuck on the field or the track onto the site. Unfortunately the weather was against us but nobody could have known for sure what was going to happen, if the decision to cancel had been made last night and this morning had been clear then people would have still been disappointed.

It didn't rain at all by me yesterday and I am only 20 miles from the track, it also isn't raining now, there's nothing that can be done about the weather, it was just bad luck.

[adon30]

Did anyone see the Porsche on the M5? that guy REALLY had a bad day...


Yeah he looked well knackered!! Shame it didn't happen to the P.R.A.T in the Merc who came past at 120mph. Not the weather to be doing that speed.


Well I endured the rostrum for a few laps with the car so I think I TQ'd!! The car came off with all the electrics dry despite going through all the big puddles. Don't think I could of endured 8 hours of that weather though.

Look forward to doing it all again in May at the 4wd. Let's hope the weather holds better for then.

Also a question about the reserve date. The weekend of June 24th is free could we not move this meeting to then? It still gives plenty of notice to people and doesn't creep into the August holiday period. It also leaves the August day free if one of the later meetings needs to be cancelled.


It's 17degC and sunny tomorrow..... think I may pop to kiddie!!

[Pownabown]

Some of the comments i read are unbelievable. The track was dry yesterday aswell as the field and the drive.

It has stopped raining here now aswell.
It didnt start raining heavy until early this morning.

[Yardeeee]

Hi All,

A frustrating result to the day all in all, many apologies for those who travelled a distance to then have to go back home again. I hope you understand that it was just not viable to call the day off before this morning and that we had to make the trip and see for ourselves to make the decision.

Seeing so many of you turn out was excellent to see and I feel dejected that we couldn't put the race on for you - with such standing water in the main straight, an area of the track which could not be avoided, we had to take the call that the risk to individuals safety and their equipment meant that we should look to the reserve date instead.

In regard to the reserve date, this is August 12th and unfortunately we cannot have any flexibility on this, we have to publish a full calendar early in the year so that individuals can plan their year accordingly - there are many individuals who rely on the regional series for F grade and EOS final qualification, if you spring a new date into the calendar now with no warning and they cannot attend, it can prove costly and is unfair (because of this, up until around 2 years ago we did not have a reserve date and a lost meeting meant a reduction in series length). We now publish the reserve date early on so people know to try and keep that date free, as it will then be used in circumstances such as this.

As was mentioned over the PA today, YOU WILL HAVE TO RE-ENTER FOR THE LEDBURY RESCHUDULED RACE, ENTRIES WILL NOT BE CARRIED OVER! We will look at the form over the next week or so and I will come back to you to confirm how you can go about re-entering.

See you all back at (a hopefully drier!) Ledbury, on May 20th for 4wd round 2.

[mdb_75]

So how many people turned up then? I made it to the start of the farm track, but I met a convoy of people leaving as the meeting had just been cancelled.

It hadn't rained here in Ludlow yesterday, it started sometime in the night. After leaving Ledbury earlier we went to Hereford shopping and have now got back to Ludlow where it's still raining and it's rained on us all day non stop wherever we've been so far!

[matdodd]

Some of the comments i read are unbelievable. The track was dry yesterday aswell as the field and the drive.

It has stopped raining here now aswell.
It didnt start raining heavy until early this morning.


I'm glad I didn't camp there last night if the field was dry yesterday.
It must of been torrential rain this morning before we got there to put the field next to the track under a few feet of water!

[_JP_]

I was reluctantly ready to race, but I'm glad its been moved to the reserve date as the track is a good track.

Maybe we should get some boats :woot:

[matdodd]

I can sort you a boat out JP :D

[Ritchie T]

Well I endured the rostrum for a few laps with the car so I think I TQ'd!! The car came off with all the electrics dry despite going through all the big puddles. Don't think I could of endured 8 hours of that weather

I was the dude with the white cougar. Track was a good layout i thought and the car came off almost dry inside. Puddles on the straighr were easily avoided as the were all on the outside.

[_JP_]

It's OK Matt, I've found a Hovercraft on ebay :)

[Jamie B4]

Awesome I will be able to attend the reserve date and wont miss a round

[adon30]

I was the dude with the white cougar. Track was a good layout i thought and the car came off almost dry inside. Puddles on the straighr were easily avoided as the were all on the outside.

I thought cats didn't like water!! LOL

Track was nice mixture with some technical and flowing sections. You had to get one right for the next. Remember the layout for the next time track layout people.

[Mad-Wolfie]

I'm glad I didn't camp there last night if the field was dry yesterday.
It must of been torrential rain this morning before we got there to put the field next to the track under a few feet of water!

I did camp at Ledbury, to be fair it was cool & breezy most of the Saturday with the odd shower - the way down the M5 was a little wet but nothing more than vehicle spray, but when we got to the track it was fairly dry. Really the rain & wind started at about 11pm just as i turned in for the night & didn't let up. The brook at the side of the track was empty apart from the odd pool & puddle along the bottom, at 5am i was woken by the wind crashing on the polytunnels in the field & the fact i was freezing cold, stuck my head out of the tent & the brook was pretty much ready to come over the top of the bank & it was as though the river had been directed through it.

The track itself was pretty much ready to go on the Saturday & just needed a brushing to get the dead leaves & seed pods off it, which the Powney team did along with some emergency mole hunting when the astro was lifted to put the timing loop in at teatime.