Hot Bodies D413 1/10 4WD Buggy
 

Team HB/HPI Racing's Ty Tessmann spotted testing the brand new HB D413. He’ll be racing it at the 1/10 Offroad Nationals in August and looking to continue his winning ways!
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big squid stole your picture !!

http://www.bigsquidrc.com/teaser-hpi...h-scale-buggy/

The picture is from HPI facebook page and they mention that HPI/HB put up this teaser, so I wouldn't call it stealing. But I do dislike the fact that these sites put their own labels on the pics (like redrc and others do, too). It makes them look like the pics were their property and taken by them.

http://www.neobuggy.net/2013/08/08/h...leaked-photos/

It's looking quite different. I'm really interested to see how this goes at the worlds.

Looks interesting!

I`m looking forward for this! I hope Hot Bodies make a so great buggy as the D4! and with one way and shaft driven!:D

More info now out on http://www.neobuggy.net/2013/08/10/h...ails-revealed/

And Ty Tessmann just TQd og 1.st place in A-main with the car at 1/10 ROAR El. nats..

cant wait until xmas :)

Motor, speedo and receiver all on one side, stick pack down the other ??

I think there will be more pictures over the next few days..

some rumors has talked about a shortpack. But i think more will be out over the next days.

Works well enough for TCs.

from Neo Buggy:

"Where the drama begins is after the race when an unnamed manufacturer filed a protest on behalf of one of their drivers whom was not in the A-main. The protest involved whether or not Ty’s car met ROAR specifications for battery fitment. The rules claim that a chassis must be configured to accept either a full-size battery or a saddle-pack. It is rumored that Ty was using a shorty pack — which is legal, however, not if the chassis will only accept the length of a shorty pack.

Regardless of the validity of their concerns, the protest was thrown out due to it being illegal for a driver to protest a race that they weren’t in."

Seems odd that a protest is dismissed just because the protester wasnt in the same race. The car is either illegal or not, I dont see what anything else has to do with it.

Regardless, it wouldnt surprise me if the car does only fit shorties. The motor mount/ spur gear assembly is right in the middle of the car roughly - to get a full length stick lipo in there it would have to sit outside of the spur gear - that would be very wide off the central axis.

The only way round that seems to me to be either a shorty-only battery mounted at the back, or split saddle lipos mounted one on either side of the spur gear. Perhaps the fact that there seems to be no pictures of the battery side of the car is a hint as to its legality, or lack of.

Stupid/antiquated rule anyway.

If they were going to quibble over this anyway, they should have outlawed saddle packs 20-something years ago when they first came to prominence in pan cars - because these differed greatly in configuration to any stick pack that was being used by everyone else at the time.
And now, it's not like ANY of those cars that run saddle packs can even be made to fit any sort of normal (or even shorty) stick packs.

+1

BRCA only states the cells must be nominal voltage and within maximum dimension.

ROAR - As you say, must allow up to the maximum battery size to prevent a shorty-only chassis being made.
http://www.roarracing.com/?cat=26

Loop holes (literally) : -
Could provide two holes/slits in the chassis for tape. In the instructions,
"This chassis will accept 'stacked' saddles. It will be dog to drive, but it complies - now go and buy some shorties.."

it will take a saddle pack battery

trekkker

Watch hpi get a file and file a slot for tape for a full size battery release a pick of a full size and then put a shorty in it job done

Either way I really can't wait to see it and some undershell shots to answer all these questions :drool:

Any idea of price and release date?.

I suspect there will be no more information about this. until after the worlds...

after a win at worlds, there is no better time to launch a car...
bet there wil be HPI/HB D413 "worlds edition"

Body off vid.....
 

Cheers for the link to the video, looks a great car and some very clever design on this new car, good job HB

The 4wd market has loads of good options, great to see for the consumer/class in general

Pro-line Type R body for the D413
 

RedRC have just published info and pictures of the new Pro-Line Racing Type R body Ty is running on his D413 at the Worlds:

http://events.redrc.net/2013/09/new-...pits-pro-line/

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Bent

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Bent

Couldn't watch the vid. It's private apparently!!??

try the one above ya post ;)

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Looks even more impressive now that we can see underneath, and looks like they've beaten JQ to be the first manufacturer to put a centre diff back into an electric 1/10 buggy.

Pity tho that the interviewer doesn't realise that centre diffs in 4wd buggies were quite common back in the 80's ;)

No slipper clutch? Smooth throttle finger then.

*oops

Slippers on a 4WD I'd say would mainly be for protecting the drivetrain, the forward traction is plentyful, and I'm not sure you notice a much smoother power output on a 4WD unless you'd put something the likes of a Losi Hydra Drive on there? (After all 4WDs are both driven agressively and built to do so by nature).

So if HB is confident about the strength of their drivetrain and electric motors, plus the capability to keep parts cool (particularly motor), why not? :)

Looks interesting.

Designer guy wasn't very convincing in the vid though!

Didnt have to be, the performance the car delivered spoke for itself.

Great looking buggy,i might have to have one.


:woot::thumbsup:

I thought the "late nite" improvised, "parking lot" interview was ok.


:D :D :D

Just seen on rctech that they are going to miss the Nov release date :cry:

Anyone any closer to knowing release date or ideas on q price yet?

god knows
 

Hot bodies/HPI always show pictures then spend an age getting a kit out. At least they tend to stay out for awhile though

I doubt it will work on very high grip astro as it will eat the drivetrain then the motor and then bang the designer said it works on 1/8th buggies but they have a clutch and the motors on electric 1/8th are alot bigger and stronger
Just add a slipper hb

It also works on SC trucks (such as the DESC410), right? :eh?: If so, I don't see the problem.

That said, it doesn't necessarily mean I think it's a wise choice to remove it. This car will really miss a slipper on low-bite (dusty) clay, even more so because it's shaft, not belt drive. However, I do like it that they've put a center diff in, it's about time someone did that with a 1/10 buggy again, I can imagine it will make a 4WD much smoother!

Intriguing buggy to say the least!! I have a TRF201 and 501X beefed up to 511 standards, looking for a new 4WD and this could be it (I'm a Tamiya guy but the 502 seems outdated by the D413 [gear diffs/center diff etc]) since I run on hard clay/dirt tracks only. Don't wanna switch from TRF blue yet but this buggy is hot (no pun intented). I'm just a little worried about sourcing parts here in the Valley.

The DESC410 has a slipper clutch as well as a centre differential - best of both words... but, you are correct in saying that the car will miss having a slipper on a low grip bumpy track. It seems odd to me to go to the trouble in adding a much-needed centre diff to a modern 4wd then do away with the slipper.

On another forum the designer has said with a centre diff you dont need a slipper clutch- this is simply wrong and poor engineering. They fulfill totally different functions. Still, its better than nothing and in many other respects this looks like a very impressive buggy :thumbsup:

I checked the page again, and I can't understand why I have always overlooked that so far! :lol:

They've probably got the durability worries covered. Despite that, I can imagine we'll see a slipper for this car sooner or later: If it's not to protect the drivetrain for less skilled drivers (much like Xray's XB4 couldn't always handle what club drivers did to it), it will be because not all drivers have the same throttle control skills as Ty Tessmann (and are all over the place when the grip's not there) :p