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jimmy 15-11-2006 10:37 PM

Setups
 
Sticky Thread for posting your SETUPS only.

Please use the other thread in this Losi section for setup discussion to keep this one clear for people to find an appropriate setup ! :)



Arn0 15-11-2006 11:20 PM

Team Losi Setup data base - Electic Off Road
4x2:
Triple X CR
Triple X BK2
Triple X

4x4:
Triple X4
Double X4 & WE

Truck:
Triple XT-CR
Triple XT

Jimmy, if not a appropriate, remove the reply!

jimmy: no mate, thats a cool resource, thank you.

Cockerill 16-11-2006 06:15 PM

Here is my XXXCR setup from last weeks regional at Batley:

Front
Toe - 0
Ride Height – Chassis Level With Rear
Camber - -1
Caster - Std
Sway Bar - None
Oil - 35
Piston - Orange
Spring - Blue
Limiters - None
Spindle Location - Low
Steering Ackerman – Rack
Bump Steer - 0
Camber Link - 2B
Shock Location - 4 Middle
VLA – Long
Front Wing - Yes
Notes - 15gramms in bulkhead

Rear
Toe-In - 3 inboard
Pivot Support - Std
Rear Hub Spacing – Middle
Driveshafts/Outdrives – Steel Dogbones/Steel Outdrives
Ride Height - Driveshafts just below Level
Sway Bar - None
Oil - 35
Piston - Red
Spring - Yellow
Limiters - Inside 0 - Outside 0
Camber Link – 2E 4 gold washers under the ball stud
Shock Location - 2 Middle
VLA - Short
Wing Position - Low
Battery Position - Forward

If you need anything else just ask

Hulk 16-11-2006 10:37 PM

Cheers Tom much appreciated! will give this setup a try at york next saturday.

Craig Collinson

Swiss 08-01-2007 11:49 AM

XXXCR
 
I have been trying a few differant things on my xxxcr, one is flipping the rear pivot block. Has anyone else tried this? How did they find it?

I am still looking for a nice generic set up, something I will try at Kidderminster on Sunday?

tyreman 08-01-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 19907)
I have been trying a few differant things on my xxxcr, one is flipping the rear pivot block. Has anyone else tried this? How did they find it?

I am still looking for a nice generic set up, something I will try at Kidderminster on Sunday?

Most of the team have been running that since the prototype car, it helps it go through the bumps better.
Have a look here http://www.helgerracing.com/eknowled...eframeset.html
and go to the losi setup page and try the setups for stotfold.

bigred5765 08-01-2007 07:33 PM

we broke one a couple of weeks ago and found that the xx4 ones fit nps and seem to be same angles etc hole slightly bigger but if your out of the xxxcr ones they worked OK

Swiss 08-01-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 19964)
Most of the team have been running that since the prototype car, it helps it go through the bumps better.
Have a look here http://www.helgerracing.com/eknowled...eframeset.html
and go to the losi setup page and try the setups for stotfold.

Is that with 25grams of weight in the back as well? Also how does the front shock position relate to the same position using the newxxxcr front shock tower? Did you try that in the wet at Stotfold Brian? How was it?:rolleyes:

tyreman 08-01-2007 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 19979)
Is that with 25grams of weight in the back as well? Also how does the front shock position relate to the same position using the newxxxcr front shock tower? Did you try that in the wet at Stotfold Brian? How was it?:rolleyes:

It's 35 grams in total in the front and there is 10g either side at the bact behind the speedo. The shock positions on that setup sheet are that of the XXXcr. and that was the setup I started with in the wet and stayed with once the track dried out.

tyreman 08-01-2007 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 19975)
we broke one a couple of weeks ago and found that the xx4 ones fit nps and seem to be same angles etc hole slightly bigger but if your out of the xxxcr ones they worked OK

Carl they are the same item, except the centre braces are removed for the XX4 one. As most only use the 2deg block on both 2 & 4wd it's easier and cheaper for people to carry the XXXcr one pn: LOSA2113 and if you need it for the XX4 just remove the bracing.

bigred5765 08-01-2007 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 19982)
Carl they are the same item, except the centre braces are removed for the XX4 one. As most only use the 2deg block on both 2 & 4wd it's easier and cheaper for people to carry the XXXcr one pn: LOSA2113 and if you need it for the XX4 just remove the bracing.

thanks for the info thats good to know,cheers:)

Swiss 08-01-2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 19981)
It's 35 grams in total in the front and there is 10g either side at the bact behind the speedo. The shock positions on that setup sheet are that of the XXXcr. and that was the setup I started with in the wet and stayed with once the track dried out.

Brian, brain fade meant on the set up sheet is mentions front shock positions relative to original front shock tower.. I just wondered how this relates to the new shock tower?

tyreman 09-01-2007 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 20008)
Brian, brain fade meant on the set up sheet is mentions front shock positions relative to original front shock tower.. I just wondered how this relates to the new shock tower?

The only difference is there is 1 extra inner hole on the tower, the outer 3 holes are in the same position as the old tower, so it would be the middle hole from the old tower.
HTH

Swiss 09-01-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 20055)
The only difference is there is 1 extra inner hole on the tower, the outer 3 holes are in the same position as the old tower, so it would be the middle hole from the old tower.
HTH

Thanks Brian. Would you change that at all for Kidderminster?

tyreman 09-01-2007 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 20073)
Thanks Brian. Would you change that at all for Kidderminster?

I'll tell you after practise:) :rolleyes:

I wouldn't have thought so though.

Swiss 15-01-2007 04:35 PM

Hi Brian

Well gave the set up a go yestesrday at Kidderminster. Ended up with short wheelbase, also taking out the washers under the turnbuckle at the rear. Went down 10wt oil rear, and 5wt in the front, changed the front spring to a green and put a small limiter in there.

You?

tyreman 15-01-2007 05:54 PM

Right here go's.
this was how I finished yesterday

Front
Toe - 0
Ride Height – Chassis Level With Rear
Camber - -1
Caster - Std
Sway Bar - None
Oil - 40
Piston - black
Spring - Blue
Limiters - None
Spindle Location - Low
Steering Ackerman – Rack
Bump Steer - 0
Camber Link - 2B (1 gold washer)
Shock Location - 3 Inside
VLA – Short
Front Wing - No
Notes - 10g infront of servo and 5g either side at the back of servo

Rear
Toe-In - 3 inboard flipped upside down
Pivot Support - Std
Rear Hub Spacing – Middle
Driveshafts/Outdrives – Steel CVD's/Steel Outdrives
Ride Height - Driveshafts just below Level
Sway Bar - None
Oil - 40
Piston - Blue
Spring - Red
Limiters - Inside 0 - Outside 0
Camber Link – 6C 2 gold washers under the ball stud
Shock Location - 2 Middle
VLA - Long
Wing - XXXcr half gurney (without extra element)
Wing Position - Low
Battery Position - Forward
Notes - 15g at the back of chassis 20g behind the battery foam

Tyres
Front - Schu Green mini's firm insert
Rear - Ballistic Green Mini spikes Soft insert

Motor
Peak Spashett 12x3 27/78
Batteries
Peak GP3700 H-MPV David Specials

The car felt really good and had good drive out of the corners.
it handled the camber change really well at speed coming onto the tabletop.
It got a little loose on the back on the 3rd run, but that was down to it starting to go damp in the air and the rear tyres were just about knackered.

If you are going to Coventry on 28-01-07 come over and say hello, otherwise I will be at the next round at Kidderminster.

Cockerill 26-01-2007 09:06 PM

XXX-CR Indoor Set-Up

This is my finishing set-up from last week's York Regional. The car was very good.

Front
Toe - 0
Ride Height – Chassis Level With Rear
Camber - -1
Caster - Std
Sway Bar - None
Oil - 40
Piston - Red
Spring - Black
Limiters - None
Spindle Location - Low
Steering Ackerman – Rack
Bump Steer - 0
Camber Link - 2B
Shock Location - 4 Inside
VLA – Long
Front Wing - Yes
Notes - 15gramms in bulkhead

Rear
Toe-In - 3 inboard
Pivot Support - Std
Rear Hub Spacing – Middle
Driveshafts/Outdrives – Steel Dogbones/Steel Outdrives
Ride Height - Driveshafts Level
Sway Bar - None
Oil - 35
Piston - Blue
Spring – Yellow – 1.5 coils
Limiters - Inside 1x B Spacer - Outside 0
Camber Link – 2A 0 washers
Shock Location - 4 Middle
VLA - Long
Wing Position - High
Notes -

Battery Position – Forward

Speedo – LRP QC2
Settings – Factory Default
Motor – Peak Vantage 10x2
Gearing – 20/78


Any Questions just ask.

Cockerill 26-01-2007 09:07 PM

XX4 Indoor Set-Up

This is my finishing set-up from last week's York Regional. The car was very good.

Front
Toe - 0
Ackerman - Outer with Draglink – 3mm
Ride Height – Chassis Level with Rear
Camber - -1
Caster - Stock
Sway Bar - No
Oil - 40wt
Piston - Orange
Spring – Silver – 1.5 coils
Front Diff - One-Way
Clicker Setting - Locked
Drive Shafts - Aluminium CVD
Shock Location – 2 - Inside
Limiters - Internal Spring - Outside None
Camber link – 2
Washers - 0


Rear
Toe-In - 3 inboard (std)
Anti-Squat - High Pin
Ride height - Driveshafts Level
Camber - -1
Diff - Plastic (with Trinity savers)
Drive shafts - Steel Dogbones
Sway bar - No
Oil - 35wt
Piston - Blue
Spring - Red
Shock Location – 3 - Inside
Limiters - 1x A washer Inside - 1x B washer Outside
Hub Spacing - Middle
Camber link - 8C
Battery Placement - Forward

Speedo – LRP Sphere Comp. 2007
Settings – 2,3,1,0
Motor – LRP X11 5.5
Gearing – 15/82

Any Questions just ask.

Swiss 27-01-2007 08:15 PM

Hi Tom

Do you have a fairly generic set up fot the XXXCR? Outdoors that is?

P

Cockerill 27-01-2007 11:25 PM

I haven't run the CR outdoors yet. I've only run it through the winter indoors. Altho when I do eventually go outdoors I will start with a set-up similar to this. I have developed this set-up over winter and find myself just do minor changes now, so I think it is pretty much there.

Swiss 28-01-2007 06:54 PM

Tom

Surely you would change the front, a little? Black spring?? Do you run any weight in the back?

P

Cockerill 28-01-2007 07:38 PM

The only weight I run is 15g in the front bulkhead. As I said I have never run the car outdoors, but when I do I will start off with what I finish with indoors, and I can't see that being much different to this.

Going outdoors will be a learning curve for me with this car so it may change, I just don't know yet.

bigred5765 28-01-2007 10:03 PM

the set up we run in doors is almost identical to what we run out doors its the tyres change

_sleigh_ 28-01-2007 10:06 PM

Have a look at the Helger Racing web-site, they are gathering a collection of XXX-CR set-ups (both indoor and outdoor). Mine from todays Coventry Winter meeting should be on there shortly.

try either

www.helgerracing.com

or direct ot the XXX-CR set-ups

http://www.helgerracing.com/eknowled...etupspage.html

Swiss 30-01-2007 03:02 PM

Hi Phil

Couldn't post it on here?

Thanks

P

tyreman 30-01-2007 05:10 PM

Here is Phil’s setup from Sunday 28th January, for his XXXcr, also included are his settings for
His LRP Sphere Competition 2007 brushless speedo, and a new photo for his profile.

Front
Toe - 0
Ride Height – Wishbones Level
Camber - -1
Caster – STD Hubs, See Notes
Sway Bar - None
Oil – 37.5
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring - Blue
Limiters - None
Spindle Location - Low
Steering Ackerman – Rack
Bump Steer - 0
Camber Link – 2A (3 gold washers)
Shock Location - 3 Middle
VLA – Short
Front Wing – No


Notes – 20g in bulkhead

3 gold washers between front pivot and bulkhead on front screws, reducing kick up to 25deg

Rear
Toe-In - 3 deg
Pivot Support – 0deg block (shimmed to 1deg)
Rear Hub Spacing – Middle
Driveshafts/Outdrives – Steel Dogbones/Steel Outdrives
Ride Height - Driveshafts Level
Sway Bar - None
Oil – 32.5
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring – Yellow (2 coils cut off)
Limiters - Inside 0.050” - Outside 0
Camber Link – 3-E (hub ball stud, spaced as high as possible)
Shock Location - 4 Middle
VLA - Long
Wing - XXXcr half gurney (with extra element)
Wing Position - Middle
Battery
Position - Forward
Notes -

Tyres:-
Front - Schumacher Yellow mini's Losi firm insert
Rear - Schumacher Yellow Mini spikes Losi firm insert


Speedo:-
LRP Sphere Competition 2007 (settings 2-3-3-2)
Motor:-
LRP X11 6.5T Brushless motor

Gearing:-
84 / 18
Batteries:-
LRP VTEC 4200hv2 NiMh BIG MAMA Factory packs

Swiss 30-01-2007 06:14 PM

Couple fo questions regarding this set up;

1. Any weight in the back?
2. Shimmed, I guess the rear block is flipped with a washer in the front? to increase rear anti squat?
3. Rear camber link position, how many washers is the maximum you can put under the ball stud?

Robfo 30-01-2007 07:50 PM

What does cutting the springs down do?

tyreman 30-01-2007 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 23023)
Couple fo questions regarding this set up;

1. Any weight in the back?
2. Shimmed, I guess the rear block is flipped with a washer in the front? to increase rear anti squat?
3. Rear camber link position, how many washers is the maximum you can put under the ball stud?

I don't think he has the rear block flipped over.
Basically keep adding washers until you are nearly touching the inside of the wheel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robfo (Post 23043)
What does cutting the springs down do?

It makes them slightly stiffer

Lee 06-03-2007 01:14 PM

On the losi xxxcr setup sheets, the rear hubs have abcedabc but nobody ever states if it is the front abc or the rear abc they use, or is the rear abc not used, thanks

Lee

tyreman 06-03-2007 10:31 PM

Most use the forward holes, but the hubs are universal so can be used either side.

bigred5765 31-03-2007 10:19 AM

anyone have a tiverton set up sheet xx4we

ryan 31-03-2007 11:00 AM

Carl,
I ran my xx4 at the last round of the tivvy winter series. This setup it was not absolutely dialed but i ddnt have much time to change it, but it is a good stater.

XX4 WE Tiverton Indoor

Front:

Oil: 35
Spring: silver
Piston: Orange
Internal spring: yes
Ride height: Driveshafts level
Shock location: 3inside
Washer under camber link: 1



Rear

Oil:30
Spring:Pink
Piston:Blue
Shock position:3inside
Camber position:8c
Tyres: Losi red stud front, proline step pins rear.

Ryan

bigred5765 31-03-2007 09:34 PM

cheers thats roughly what i was going to do thanks again

Lee 04-04-2007 10:21 AM

Anyone got a starting setup for southport?

_sleigh_ 04-04-2007 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 31792)
Anyone got a starting setup for southport?

Are you looking for a XX4 or XXXCR setup?

Lee 04-04-2007 01:11 PM

Sorry XXXCR:rolleyes:

_sleigh_ 04-04-2007 01:32 PM

I'd really recommend the following, I've been running it for a while now and it seems to like most tracks I've run at.

I admit it does take a little extra work to get the drilled pistons, the change of front kick-up and the cut rear springs but I do think it's well worht a try.

I'd be interested in the opinions of anyone that tries the set-up

Front
Toe – 0
Ride Height – Wishbones Level
Camber – 1 deg neg.
Caster – STD Hubs, See Notes
Sway Bar – None
Oil – 37.5wt Losi
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring – Blue
Limiters – None
Spindle Location – Low
Steering Ackerman – Rack
Bump Steer – 0
Camber Link – 2 / A (1 gold washers)
Shock Location – 3 / Middle
VLA – Short
Front Wing – No
Notes – 30g in bulkhead or brass bulkhead
3 gold washers between front pivot and bulkhead on front screws,
reducing kick up to 25deg

Rear
Toe-In – 3 deg
Pivot Support – 0deg block (shimmed to 1deg)
Rear Hub Spacing – Middle
Driveshafts/Outdrives – Steel Dogbones/Steel Outdrives
Ride Height – Driveshafts Level
Sway Bar – None
Oil – 32.5wt Losi
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring – Yellow (2 coils cut off)
Limiters – Inside = 0.050” – Outside = none
Camber Link – 3 / E (hub ball stud, spaced as high as possible)
Shock Location – 4 / Middle
VLA – Long
Wing – XXXcr half gurney (with extra element)
Wing Position – Middle
Battery Position – Forward

Tyres:-
Front - Schumacher Yellow Mini Spikes Losi firm insert
Rear - Schumacher Yellow Mini Spikes Losi firm insert

Speedo:-
LRP Sphere Competition 2007 (settings 2-3-3-2)
Motor:-
LRP X11 6.5T Brushless motor
Gearing:-
84 / 18
Batteries:-
LRP VTEC 4200hv2 NiMh BIG MAMA Factory packs

Lee 04-04-2007 01:40 PM

phil, thanks very much, when you say 554 on the piston, what does the 4 relate too again, i remember the info was on doughty.net but that is down at the moment so i cant refresh my memory, sorry to be a pain.

Lee


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