Winter Series
 

Guys .... Something ridiculous is about to occur.
Benfield are planning a winter series. And NEAM / Teesside are planning a winter series. Can't we have one winter series???? There's not enough support to make both series great.

How about a ..... Radical ... NE indoor winter series. One at Seaham, Benfield, Teesside .... York and Batley.

We need big attendance's to justify the hall cost, and ensure a good atmosphere and level of competition.

I know Seaham NEAM and Benfield want to support a series. Do the others?

Am sure we used to do this but called it an indoor regional series...???

I think Dex had already tried to sort it with Benfield but It didn't happen for whatever reason?? Dex needs to comment really or Benfield as to why it didn't happen??

Think this could be a great idea!

As long as the dates don't clash why can't 2 separate events work, just means more dates for racing apart from club nights

We did indeed.
It stopped due to poor attendance I think. Was a great series though

I would love this to happen I have really enjoyed the summer regionals

We would support this series; sounds good.

Was 2 or 3 people asked the same question around running a joint winter series and was basically blanked and never got any kind of reply......doesnt really take much effort to reply to a question regarding a joint series ???

It's not the first time I've been blanked by Paul Carr.......dont even know why TBH !!!

This could be another opportunity to help RC racing grow in the north east by having these kind of joint series, not only for new racers but also to race against other local/regional racers in the area to help improve your driving skills.

Im not gonna lose any sleep over whether benfield want to have there own series.......I am looking at the bigger picture, and looking forward to a joint series with any other clubs, near or further away.

I will check dates with Worksop, Batley and Benfield and will work something out with Teeside to see if its worth going ahead with it, if not it will be racing as normal on sunday at Seaham :woot: :p;):thumbsup:

From experience, the best series, most competitve and attended will only be had if there is one local series over the winter.

It's a lot of effort to support a series for a racer. I know some of the guys from York etc took part in only one or two of the Benfield rounds last year.

I personally, cannot support more than one local series of all day Sunday racing.

Please remember, we are one body of racers .... trying to provide the best series of racing over the winter for us racers as a group.

We've got plenty time to organise this.
If representitives from the clubs can indicate if they wish their club to host a round, we might get this off the ground, as a winter indoor regional series.

Batley
Benfield
Seaham
Teesside
York

Can anyone advise date availability.
Probably best to avoid Worksop dates:

Round 1 - Sunday 5th October 2014
Round 2 - Sunday 19th October 2014
Round 3 - Sunday 16th November 2014
Round 4 - Sunday 4th January 2015
Round 5 - Sunday 25th January 2015
Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th February 2015 - BWOC 2015!!
Round 6 - Sunday 22nd February 2015
Round 7 - Sunday 8th March 2015

Bring back the ones at temple park i say

Already agreed we would host 1

Come on lads ! Let bring back North East indoor regional :thumbsup:

I am all for that :woot:

Regional
 

Am in .

Batley
Benfield
Seaham - In, date TBC
Teesside - In, date TBC
York


Can we get some response, or make the other clubs aware?

I would be up for attending. Having a series like indoor regionals would b great.

OK guys I have just been made aware of this thread, so I have not been watching this develop,

we all have the same desire to enjoy our hobbie and attract new and old participant’s back in to the local clubs.


Benfields hall / trophy’s and catering are all booked and paid for in advance as it’s the only way we can secure the hall at a rate where it is affordable and cost effective for the club. at the request of the guys traveling who normally attend Worksop, I am awaiting the centre manager to call me to confirm we can change the first date to the 26th October, unfortunately since I booked and confirmed the dates, Worksop have added the date of the 19th October to their original dates,

Benfield put this series on last year at the request of the club members to give the club driver’s and also the new and younger drivers the experience of a local competition and the chance to develop and improve their skills this is lead to Benfield having a core of 15
Regularly attending junior members. And I believe the 2 youngest racing members of the BRCA.

The committee and I spent a lot of personal time and effort co-ordinating it last year,( I am sure you are all aware of the hard work and time effort that is required behind the scenes ) which had participant's from a host of other regions, who attended 90% of the series and praised the club for all the hard work and effort that goes in to putting on the events. The series had an average attendance of 55 drivers per round.
We had some participants who slated the series on an open forum and yet attended and had a good days racing! even asked if we would run it again this year.
We have already received, an average of 30 provisional entry’s for each round,
including 5+ guys who are traveling 200 plus miles and have pre booked B/B’s.

On the back of last years’ series, the club was asked to put on a display day this year, it went really well and gained a lot of public interest, and we have already been approached to put on a further 2 events next year and I am in negotiation's on other things too.

I remember the (winter regionals) from 5-6 years back when I just returned to the hobbie and the numbers dwindled each round and was a financial loss to each club, and a lot of interest was lost as already stated in a previous post replys by COL. And then nothing was ever put together until Benfield last year.

I am sure I Highlighted last year whilst doing the drivers briefing. We received a lot of interest of driver’s from outside the region who were willing to travel to attend particularly from Scotland and the north west. but decided against it due to the unconstructive / negative comments on the local club forums. Looking forward if a regional series was to be put together I would suggest a structured committee of officials from all the clubs who wish to participate come to together in the new year and plan and co-ordinate the (worksop) like series correctly, (poss a summer and winter series) and not just throw a load of comments on an open public forum, Where prospective attendees are viewing.


P,s, if you wish to support Benfield’s winter series 2014-2015 please drop us a line confirming class 2wd -4wd or both plus age and we will book you in.

Regards
Benfield RC Club

Seaham had already been running its own Xmas series with over 30+ driver attending every round and even had yourself and others from Benfield turning up to race.

Up until last year where, before we could arrange and sort out dates for our own Xmas series again, Benfield got in there first and hosted your series on a Sunday knowing it to be on the same day we run our meetings, although be it on the morning, meaning our members had to make a choice between racing in benfields winter series on the morning or race at Seaham on the afternoon/night which meant our numbers dropped !!!

Last year when you were posting about running a winter series you also ignored the people who posted wanting a joint series.

Seems like you don't want to have any kind of joint event with any other club, a joint series could be even bigger for all racers in the north east but just seems like your only thinking of yourself/Benfield !!!

it's our winter series, why are u guys from seaham always making a big deal about things as always an trying to bring people down to your level? Should we of waited for u guys to bring out dates first, no, an why should we. Our club has come on leaps an bounds an had a big enough fan club to run a series so we did. All u guys do unfortunately is taint it an it shows in your past comments which we wish to not be any part of hence why we do not comment on posts normally on a public forum

All I was trying to do , was prevent 2 weaker competing winter series' (which were being planned), and promote one winter series in the NE.

If the hall is booked and Benfield club are committed, then why don't we plan an indoor series next year with all clubs involved, but this winter, get everyone behind the Benfield series.

I think we need to stress, this is for the benefit of us NE racers as a whole, its not a "whose got the best club" competition.

Well said, all in favour of this proposal can a get hell yeah. :thumbsup:

"Why don't we plan an indoor series next year with all clubs involved, but this winter, get everyone behind the Benfield series.
Hell Yeah"......:thumbsup: ;)

This could have been sorted out if we were approached about a series......this is running on from the people who wanted a joint series between local clubs from last year and were still ignored when asking for 1 this year....!!!

Only problems Ive got is working fridays and saturdays nights and not getting in till early hours of the morning mean I cant get to race at benfield or support there series as I used to be a regular at Tyne Met and Benfield but now due to work commitments I can only run on sunday nights unless I take a cut in pay and not work so I can race, I already do this for the regionals but have plenty of notice and time to put holidays in...........AND, with all the other series that run indoor during the winter and with the extra series from benfield......will this affect our club from running on sundays ???

If we dont get enough people to race at our club on our normal day being a sunday night because everybody is racing at all other race series, will we be able to keep our club going......???

We've loads of money, I'm going to have to start wiping my backside with all the £10 notes we've got lying round. :woot:

Our club will be fine series or no series but it would benefit everyone if there was a joint series. But instead certain people are being ignorant, ignoring what the majority want thinking they're going to seal members from other clubs.

I'd love a joint series, unfortunately it's not going to happen because of certain people. :thumbdown:

It's not being ignorant, look at ur snide remarks in this quote an ur ment to be representing the north east an ur club, people are looking at this now an God knows what they're thinking. It's unfortunate u choose to have this attitude, no other club acts the way u guys do on a public forum an ur asking us to be a part this. I don't speak for everyone but until this attitude changes I can't see this happening just yet

Tell me though why u guys aren't a happy a club is putting on a winter series an why u lot are never happy for anyone else, all u guys seem to care about is trying to air dirty laundry on a public forum for the world to see, some of us have even started to to come down an support ur club but yet u still say we don't care an cry on about things, any of u guys come to the open day we put on to the public to get more people interested in racing.

Try an be happy for other clubs an look at the comments ur club guys are making an ask, if I was an outsider an saw these would I want to go that indoor series???????

The reason for the attitude is down to the lack response from our committee members requests to discuss dates and none response. This sums up why we have no series. Teeside are well up for it just needed dates sorting, did anyone response to Dexter from Benefield??? No.

Point made, shame really. Everyone would've benefitted and not just financially. I've shared my views on the matter. I'm just incredibly disappointed that there's an us and them attitude which exists. This series would've got rid of that. The whole situation is pathetic!

Another year and we're at the same point as last year. No series and no attempt to get one sorted just sour grapes AGAIN.

Oh well, Teeside, York and Seaham series anyone??

Alternatively, assuming Seaham holds it's own mini series over the Xmas holidays as per last year, could the club fork out for some trophies? Even if it's only for the kiddies who turn out over the holidays, on what would normally be a school night; 1st, 2nd, 3rd, most improved, top Marshall etc. :)

We will be holding a series, I'm sure Teeside will still be up for it as well. I have loads of trophies unclaimed from last year's regional and I'm sure we have some in the cupboard at Seaham so I don't see why not. All we need is plaques for them. :thumbsup:

But there isn't an us an them, we've even started to come down to seaham an will more then likely be there this Sunday again, I'm a committee member an no one has come to me Gordon is also but I don't think anyone has come to him either? We book the hall a couple of months in advance to secure it, first I be heard really is Chris putting something up a few days back, we don't comment much about anything club related like this until we can actually discuss something first, otherwise it turns into this an it doesn't look good for either club but mainly it doesn't look to good from u David/Dave (using names so it's not u an us) as most of the negative comments very quickly come from seaham and it worrys us as we may soon be looked upon as being negative ourselves.

I think that this is the most sensible suggestion on this thread. Benfield is committed this year, but I'm sure most members would back a regional series in principle. I for one would. Gives plenty of planning time too.

And time for me to go through another 2 or 3 cars to make sure I've got the right one lol

There's no intention of casting negativity over any club and we're definitely not a negative club. Yes Benefield members have came to Seaham and are more than welcome anyone can race to be honest the more the merrier. A Northeast winter series is the perfect way to promote the hobby. Everyone talks about it, wants it but it doesn't happen for whatever reason.

In my view its a missed opportunity.

We'll get there in the end, may ban Paul Johnson from them for taking the Mick outta me though lol

Do you see what you've started Chris Pattinson...???

You've had the best interest of north east racers in mind and this is what you get...?

Let's just forget about benfield, let them run their own series and wish them good luck.

Now as for the north east series, let's get it back on track...

Seaham in,

Teeside in,

Bately and York next and we're sorted...

Never run another mans rubarb...!

He was a bit sheepish after the final.

Could this not work still ? Obviously with everyone on board of course, could one of benfields dates that they already have be murged with a north east indoor series so benfields series and a north east series run on the same day at bentfield? Along with Teesside and Seaham that would give three rounds that would maybe be plenty to see how things work out.

Just an idea ..........

Andyp where would we be without common sense !:thumbsup:

That to me sounds good.

Howay man Andy can't you read, they've already paid for the hall. How could they possibly compromise now...???

And their series will be booked up solid so how could they possibly squeeze any extra racers in now...?

Give ya heed a shake man...

This seems to be getting a little out of hand in my opinion, as someone who supports both clubs every single week it's all about a little give and take, the way things stand benfields winter series has been planned and booked for several months so makes it impossible to change the plans ( would this hassle be happening if oople or the brca planned a winter series .... NO ), so the way I see it is that last year the winter series was a success and enjoyed by all so why would this years be any different, so in the spirit of everyone who enjoys the sport why can we just all support the planned series and enjoy it and be a little better planned for a joint spring, summer, autumn or winter series for next year, at the end of the day we all enjoy racing and enjoy racing together so maybe let's leave this one alone now and speak to each other's committee members with the maturity when all have and sort it out for next year :thumbsup: