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bbq 28-07-2008 12:14 PM

Slow motion movie of an rc car
 
Mr.Pink here in sweden shot this movie.
Its from the track were we are gona have the swedish nationals next month

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4B5KceyQo

ben 28-07-2008 12:20 PM

Thats actually really cool. Its nice to see how much the suspension actually moves and how the car goes through the air. GOOD JOB!:thumbsup:

bigred5765 28-07-2008 12:23 PM

thats wicked well shot to

mobile chicane 29-07-2008 07:56 PM

thats how fast I drove in my best lap ever:woot:

josh_smaxx 29-07-2008 08:00 PM

Thats wicked!!! :thumbsup: very well done, would like to see an on board version as well.

Jonny_H 06-08-2008 12:18 PM

Way cool! How much is it slowed down by? 10:1?

I'd love to see a video of 1/10th slowed down by ~3.2:1 (sqrt(10)) as I have a theory that it would look like full size...

Lee 06-08-2008 12:28 PM

But speed is not scaled, it is a constant, 1mph is 1mph regardless of the size of the object.

Jonny_H 11-08-2008 12:14 PM

<grin> Who said anything about speed? I just said "it would look like full size"...

The problem is acceleration. Basically a 1/10th car still accelerates (in any direction) at about 1g - but the size is scaled, so if it falls (after jumping) at 10 m/s^2, it looks like 100 m/s^2 or 10g, because it's ten times as many car lengths per second.

Similarly for cornering, assuming the tyres produce about 1.0 coefficient of friction.

Slow it down by the square root of the scale, and the acceleration (jumping/falling and cornering) should make it look like it's full size.

tonymon 12-08-2008 10:49 AM

only people that design gearboxes can understand that!

Lee 12-08-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny_H (Post 149576)
<grin> Who said anything about speed? I just said "it would look like full size"...

The problem is acceleration. Basically a 1/10th car still accelerates (in any direction) at about 1g - but the size is scaled, so if it falls (after jumping) at 10 m/s^2, it looks like 100 m/s^2 or 10g, because it's ten times as many car lengths per second.

Are you sure though, the car will still fall at the same speed, it will accelerate at a different rate due to its weight but i dont think the size has anything to do with it. i may be wrong though :blush:

LEGEND 12-08-2008 11:34 AM

I totally agree, completely confusing. What i would try first would be slowing it down by a scale factor of 10 and work from there. Seems like a reasonably number to me.;)

Lee 12-08-2008 12:05 PM

Why?

The speed is a constant regardless of the size if you dropped a big rock and a small rock off the top of a cliff, would you want to slow the small one down so it looked real?

Jonny_H 12-08-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonymon (Post 149934)
only people that design gearboxes can understand that!

:p :p :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEGEND (Post 149945)
I totally agree, completely confusing. What i would try first would be slowing it down by a scale factor of 10 and work from there. Seems like a reasonably number to me.;)

Nope, 10's too much - that would slow the 'scale' acceleration down by 100, because it's metres per second squared.

Try this then: you know how you used to hear "my car does 25 mph, so that's a scale speed of 250 mph"? Yeah, right... have you ever heard of a (1:1) off-road race car doing that speed? Instead, try multiplying actual speeds by about 3.2 (square root of 10):

Buggy: 35 mph => 112 mph 'scale'. WRC cars go how fast?
Touring car: 45 mph(?) => 144 mph 'scale'. Sound about right?
Velodrome / oval racer: ~60mph => 192 mph. NASCAR?
'Insane Run' record: 100+ mph => 320 mph. Maybe that's still a bit fast... but if you put the 1000 hp Penske-Mercedes Indycar (or a Can-Am / Group C prototype) on the bowl at Nardo, how fast could it go?

Lee 12-08-2008 12:23 PM

Johnny,
I know what your saying and in theory yes its about right.

that is one thing i hate when i hear people saying my car has a scale speed of 500 mph, even hpi are marketing cars with this claim.

I can see how you have come about your theory and i would like to see a video slowed down by 3.2 but personally i think once you have seen a 1/10th car go round a track "live" i think it would look slow or odd. Why not just give them a mabuchi 540 motor instead :D

sparrow.2 12-08-2008 01:28 PM

NERD BATTLE :woot:

http://www.bismarcktribune.com/blog/...ateTwo/505.jpg

telboy 12-08-2008 05:37 PM

Hmm, so, what your saying is, our cars aren't really fast? :p

Anyway. I'd like to know if it was filmed with a high speed camera (which it looks like) or has it just been slowed down with software, which normally makes it look jerky.

CraigM2610 12-08-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparrow.2 (Post 150005)

LMAO!! :thumbsup:

I haven't a clue what they're saying!

Richard Lowe 12-08-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny_H (Post 149955)
Buggy: 35 mph => 112 mph 'scale'. WRC cars go how fast?

That doesn't quite work out, 1.6kg and 400watt motors give about 335hp/ton, a WRC car would work out around 240hp/ton assuming minimum weight and 300hp.

I'm sure a WRC car geared correctly would do 150mph+, especially if it had the extra 120hp it would need to have the same power to weight as a 1:10th buggy :)

mole2k 12-08-2008 10:33 PM

Some of the WRC cars in Ireland hit max speed about 150mph, if you geared them even longer then you could get more top end if you had the right stage for them.

The video was filmed with a casio ex-f1 pro. It can do video at 300fps at a vga resolution and up to 1200 fps at a lower resolution, I want one!

Mike Hudson 13-08-2008 11:59 AM

its like a crawler on helium


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