B64!!
 

So:

Slipper,
7deg caster blocks,
gearbox shims,
Front tower significantly different,
Rear tower looks very similar but different PN,
Wider at front with 5mm hexes.

What else?

Just wondering what photos/info you have about the differences between the kits?

As far as I can see the different parts are slipper clutch, caster blocks, front hexes and arm mounts maybe the roll bars are different.

The shock towers are the same

There's a few pics on AE site, and one with the two cars side by side.
The front tower of the 64 has wider positions for shocks and only one set of link positions.
Rear tower looks same to me as far as shock positions but has fewer (different?) link positions.

I was thinking.. if they went for 5mm hexes at front and the car width is still compliant, maybe with the B64d thinner hexes we can fit 2wd front wheels and still fit in the BRCA box?

See responses above dude

Also centre dogbones for slipper

Happy to be corrected on my observations, but my B64d front axle width is over 250mm regardless of the hex width used. I tried the 5mm hex with a 4wd wheel and the widest point is still the axle nut wheel threads. It's almost 260mm. Reading BRCA 2017 rules max width for 2wd & 4wd is 250mm. If the BRCA box is only 250mm wide my car isn't gonna fit!

You are right guys.. my eyes tricked me (or my brain? :eh?:)
It's just that the shock towers in the pictured prototypes are different than the kit ones, but they look the same for 64 and 64D.

What do you mean by different arm mounts? The A B C D blocks look unchanged to me.

Interesting point about the width.. BRCA max width is 250mm..
My car measures around 253mm at the axles end.. and NO, I won't trim the axles again!!!:mad:

I give up!

Your Correct Si it is to wide the 64D is 252mm / 253mm the only way it will fit the box is to trim the ends of axles. I will be able to confirm this Sunday evening when I get back from a local club meet that the BRCA Western area rep will be attending, I have asked him if he could bring the Box along to the meet so racers can check our newer cars are legal before our first regional event at the beginning of May.

For anyone waiting for the B64 CML have the availability date set as the 30th April if this is anything like the B64D availability it will slip

Ok all I can confirm that the B64 is to wide across the front axles to pass BRCA National and Regional scrutineering as it fits in the box but then the suspension will not depress which I believe the car needs to do to be legal to race.

Just checked the updated BRCA 10th Off Road 2017 handbook here is the relevant section

I had to Dremel off the ends of the front driveshafts & use low profile wheel nuts to fit in our box, but that is a little bent:lol:

I had to take the ends off the driveshafts to fit in :(

Why not fit the B64d front hex ?

It's not the Hex's (B64D used to check) that causes the car to be to wide the axles that are to long. So if the B64 uses the 5mm hex it will definitely not fit the box.

Hi all

What are the gearbox shims listed in the chat above as a part of B64 compared to B64d?

To raise gearboxes?

I can't see them in the manual?

Thanks in advance

Is the car any good?

Why have they released a none brca compliant car? Ate the world's measurements different to brca?

Loads of cars seem to have been released over the years that have too long an axle, the yz4 had the same problem iirc, no idea why it keeps happening though!

Neil Craig's astro
 

Is Mr. Craig really running 3 or 3.5 degrees of rear toe-in on his B64 on high bite astro as listed on his set-up sheets (3) on petitrc? Maybe I'm misreading it.
If anyone knows if this is correct or what rear toe-in he's really running please let us know.
In the US we are slowly switching to astro and don't know what we're doing:drool:. We are relying on Neil's set-ups to a certain degree. I've tried the pills the way that he has them as well as the rest of the set-up down to the finest detail and have a bad understeer. Thanks in advance!

Do you mean Neil cragg? All his setups are on the cml website too if you want compare