Setups
 

This is a sticky thread for posting setups only please! :)

Batley Outdoor

Springs: 6t
Pistons: Hard + Valve
Oil: 35 Associated
Toe: In 1 Degree
Camber: 2 Degrees
Castor: 0 washer behind wishbone
Ground clearance: 16mm
Anti Roll Bar: None


Rear:

Springs: 5.5t/Gold
Pistons: Two hole, no groove
Oil weights: 50wt Associated
Toe-in per side: 3 Degrees
Camber per side: 2 Degrees
Ground clearance: 22mm - or a little more if it cuts up.
Anti-roll bar: None
Rear lower upright: Upper Hole
Damper pickup point: Middle

Worksop Indoor

Front

6 turn springs
Kit pistons & rebound valves
30 wt oil
Push rods mounted on top of rockers
0 degree toe in - may need 1 deg toe-out
-1 degree camber
Castor - right back
14mm ride height - or lower at Worksop depending on bumps, but ride height has a big influance on steering on the Pred as you probably know.


Rear

5 1/2 turn springs & pre springs
Kit pistons
45 wt oil
Middle hole rockers
4 degrees toe-in per side
-1 degree camber
22mm ride height - or lower at Worksop, but drop front and rear the same.

Southport Outdoors

Front

5.5 turn springs
Kit pistons & rebound valves
30 wt Losi oil
Kit rockers (push rods mounted on top)
1 degree toe in
-2 degree camber
Castor – 4 washers in front, 3 behind
Front pushrod length - 30mm


16mm ride height


Rear

5 1/2 turn springs & pre springs
Kit pistons
50 wt losi oil
Middle hole rockers
2 degrees toe-in per side
-2 degree camber
22mm ride height
Maximum Droop
Kit Anti Squat

[Courtesy of Peter Ellis]

Coventry Outdoors

FRONT:

Caster: 5 washers back, 1 forward
Push rod placement: mounted on top of the rocker.
Roll-bar: none
toe in: 1degree
ride height: 18mm
camber: 2degrees
Springs: 5.5t black
Oil: Associated 35wt
pistons: kit
1 way unit in the front, fixed prop shaft.

REAR:

Roll bar: yes- soft setting.
Toe in: 2degrees
ride height: 23mm
camber: 2degrees
Anti Squat: 3.5 degrees
Shock pick up position: middle hole
hub pick up position: upper hole
springs: 6.5t black
Oil: associated 30wt.
Pistons: 2 hole - kit

[courtesy of Tom Yardy]

Southport Outdoors By Tom
 

Front

6 turn springs
Kit pistons & rebound valves
35 wt associated oil
Kit rockers (push rods mounted on top)
1 degree toe in
-1 degree camber
Castor – 4 washers in front, 3 behind
Front pushrod length - 30mm
16mm ride height

tyres: worn yellow mini spikes

Rear

5.5 turn springs & pre compression springs
Kit pistons
50 wt Schumacher oil
Middle hole rockers
1 degrees toe-in per side
-1 degree camber
22mm ride height
Kit Anti Squat
3mm droop

Tyres: worn yellow mini spikes

Nosram evo 2007 with 6.5
Spur 72t
Pinion 19t
IB 4200 cells

Might be useful having the type of track, track conditions etc on each setup otherwise people wont know what type of track the setup is for.

dito

hi guys...

that my set-up for southport...

southport is a mixture of surfaces, mainly astro and grass with a couple of othe sections made up of cobbles, tarmac and concrete..

this set-up was used on a dry and sunny day, with plenty of grip on the track, however it does also work well in damp conditions as it makes the car a little less likely to suffer from grip role etc....

hope this helps

Tom

here is a starting point for the new shocks on the x11 working both on flat grass and epr as well

front

springs blue (no compreision spring) 5 1/2 turn in older style
oil 25wt losi
piston kit with standard rebound valve
pushrod above rocker
pushrod lenth 33mm with shockball undone 1turn
revised front arms with 1 washer behind wishbone
cone washer replaced with 4 losi gold ballstud washers. 2 under outer ball with 2 above
extra midde hole drilled for roll bar
roll bar 1.2mm (standard) middle hole
ride height 19-20 mm
front wing kit with standard lines followed
slight toe out with 2 degrees of camber

rear

springs blue (no compresion spring) 5 1/2 turn in older style
oil 30-32.5 losi(depending on jumps)
piston kit
lower hole on shock mount
roll bar 1.2mm again in middle hole in lowered position (pic to follow)
wheelbase lenthened 1mm
ride height 22mm
1.5mm rear block (reduces on power steering)
large rear wing with full guerney
toe in to middle of front wheel
rear uprite in upper hole

shumacher yellow minispikes with outside outer row cutoff rear and 2 inner and outer cut off front

any extra info you need feel free to ask or pm

Nathan

thx

what is "epr"?
and what can the Blue spring be compared at, in terms of the old springs?

epr is eden park raceway (high bite astroturf and multi surface track) the springs now come colour coded so i will find out the turn equvalent when i get home but they are 1 down from stiffest
hth

lower hole on rear hub or shock mount rocker?

I *think* the blue spring would be the 5 1/2 turn 1.3mm spring :)

G

He means on the rear rocker :)

Just noticed he forgot to mention the rear upright hole :lol:

G

setup eddited for the above questions :thumbsup:

Where did you adjust the wheel base?

Oh and is that how you ran it on Sunday at the regional?

i add washers inbetween the front of the rear hub and the ball joint adam and i tried it in the last final at the regional just to give a little more pivot. tested it again at epr yesterday in the dry and found it to be good with the full set up shown

Hi its Adam. I've realized that by doing that you are reducing the hub anti-squat too. I've worked out that by adding 2MM it will make the hub and the wishbone parallel. While also making the wheelbase 2MM longer. I wish i had thought about on Sunday as i think that would have improved my car on the dusty section going onto the straight. You car seemed really stable there and i think this could explain it, do you agree? Will definitely try it next time we're at a track. I think i will also find a way of adjusting the top wishbone as we talked about so that i can change the anti-squat and the wheelbase independently.

hadnt looked at it that way so will look into it and get back to you :thumbsup:

So would you say that this shim gave you more pivot through the corner? Did you notice any difference in putting the power down on the loose parts of the track?

the shim acted in the same way as lentheniong any buggy would ie more pivot but slightly less rear end coming out of a corner. as it was helping me to square up quicker the slight less on rear end traction wasnt an issue

Hi guys... my setup for the new big bore shocks as i ran it yesterday at the Southport GP


Blue front springs
Kit pistons & rebound valves
25 wt associated oil, 3 large spacers on the shocks
Kit rockers (push rods mounted on top)
1 degree toe in
-1 degree camber
Castor – 4 washers in front, 3 behind
Front pushrod length - 30mm

tyres: worn yellow mini spikes

Rear

5.5 turn springs & no pre compression springs, 3 large spacers on the shocks
Kit pistons
35 wt associated oil
Middle hole rockers
1 degrees toe-in per side
-1 degree camber

Kit Anti Squat
3mm droop

Tyres: worn yellow mini spikes

Nosram evo 2007 with 6.5
Spur 72t
Pinion 19t
IB 4200 cells

very similar to my previous set up except for the new shocks oils and springs...

Tom

What's your view on the new shocks?

Tom, how do you like your car to 'feel'?
Looking at your set-up it looks like a steering monster :woot:
Why no pre-compression spring on the rear? :confused:

I'm hoping to come over to Southport on Sunday, we'll have a chat :thumbsup:

james on sunday was using losi or ae springs g

From what I can remember James Chappells set-up from York Regional is as follows:

Front
New Shocks
Kit pistons
30wt oil
5.5t springs
Castor all the way back (Original Upper wishbones)
1 degree toe in
1 degree camber
wishbones level for ride height

Rear
New shocks
Kit piston
40wt oil
Green associated front spring
2 degree toe in
1 degree camber
1 degree anti squat plate
wishbones level for ride height

Schumacher Yellow Minispike tyres, Outer and inner row removed from fronts

If there is any changes to this I'll edit it later.

Peter

was a green losi spring peter

hi northy... i like my car to have a touch of understeer, as it is if i use new tires if very hard not to grip role because it does steer like a monster :p...

but thats why i use worn tires, and it goes great! if you do come to southport on sunday your more than welcome to have a go with it and see what you think.

as for not using the precompression springs on the back, i just copied nathans shock set up for the big bores as closely as i could and left the rest of the car how it was

hopefully see you on sunday

Tom

I thought it would be a steering monster on new tyres! :woot:

I must admit I used worn tyres at Southport National last year and the car was dialed :thumbsup: Dan X-God Greenwood remembers just how worn they were to this day! :woot:

G

Mine is getting to the point now that the spikes are virtually gone and the actual tire is getting a bit thin, might be due a new set in three or four weeks :thumbsup:

:o Mine weren't THAT worn :) You make Stu Evans look like he spends loads on tyres! :woot:

G

What i want to know is, why does a car that has the CofG of a pancake want to grip roll?

it generates a hell of a lot of grip? i dont know :lol:

I was quite impressed by toms car on sunday, I think you scored quite highly in round one? A big improovment on what I last saw!

3rd overall in round 1 Paul :thumbsup:

I was just inconsistent in the other rounds:lol:

That setup for Southport GP from Tom3012...
and the setup for York Regional from James

Could anyone update me on what type of track these are and what the weatherconditions were when used with that setup?
thx

No problem lowie... was dry and sunny with lots of grip. Track is a range of AstroTurf and grass with Tarmac, concrete and cobbled features.

Hope this helps, Tom

The York setup was used when it was sunny with high grip. It was a flat grass track with some big features [jumps].

HTH matt :)