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DaveG28 09-03-2008 10:04 PM

Aero Setups
 
Hi All,

Interested to see what setups people are running on the car if anyone has run it yet, specifically:

1. Damper oil weight

2. Gearing (I don't know the final drive so not sure what people are running, if anyone has a 5.5 or 4.5 motor especially 'd be interested to know?)

3. Slipper settings

4. What electrics (servo's/motors/esc's)

Hopefully I'll be able to get a few pointers from it!

KevLee 09-03-2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 102220)
Hi All,

Interested to see what setups people are running on the car if anyone has run it yet, specifically:

1. Damper oil weight

2. Gearing (I don't know the final drive so not sure what people are running, if anyone has a 5.5 or 4.5 motor especially 'd be interested to know?)

3. Slipper settings

4. What electrics (servo's/motors/esc's)

Hopefully I'll be able to get a few pointers from it!

Hi Dave

This is what i am currently running

1, Front: Losi red piston with 40wt
Rear: Aero piston drilled with losi 54 holes (Blue)

2, on Nosram/LRP 5.5 (with sintered rotor) - 21/84

3, Slipper set to 250gramms on the tool :thumbsup:. But my advice would be to start loose and work your way up gradually. You need a bit of slip to "save" the gears

4, Tekin R1 Pro, LRP/Nosram 5.5, Team Almighty EnerG4600, KO 2413

hope that helps

Lee 09-03-2008 10:34 PM

Kev, whats this slipper tool??? i read that there was one in the manual but it didnt come in the kit so assumed it was a language thing:confused:

Wraggy 09-03-2008 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 102239)
Kev, whats this slipper tool??? i read that there was one in the manual but it didnt come in the kit so assumed it was a language thing:confused:

its a set of scales Lee:woot:,+ the attachment

Lee 09-03-2008 10:40 PM

I think im midsing something here:o

KevLee 09-03-2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 102247)
I think im midsing something here:o

Yeh, as wraggy said, its a set of digital kitchin scales and a lever arm with drivehsaft attachment. It allows you to consistently setup your slipper without the guess work. I think Aero are working on a something at the moment.

DaveG28 10-03-2008 12:12 AM

Hmm, I normally run with the slipper very tight and let it wheelspin, but I've always used belt drive before so it just breaks the belts, not the gears! From what I've seen of the manual (I don't have it with me), will it be pretty easy to keep removing the slipper to tighten it if I build up gradually? I remember the manual saying back off an 1/8th of a turn I think?

Also, I'm sure someone has already said this at some point but is the kit spur 48dp? I need to get hold of some pinions!

Dave

DaveG28 10-03-2008 12:24 AM

Oh, and back on my receiver thing, KevLee you run Spektrum don't you? DO you use a micro or normal size spektrum receiver?

I'm asking as it doesn't look like my futaba will fit, but if the normal size spektrum does I could get the HRS version and not lose any response time!

Lee 10-03-2008 09:38 AM

Dave, the slipper unit can be removed in 10 secs or so. And yes the spur is 48dp.

Has anyone moved the steering links to the top of the rack to try and get rid of the toe out when the suspension is compressed?

I have done it but not run it yet but i had to shim the hub end by about 1.5mm to stop lots of toe in when it compresses.:)

stegger 10-03-2008 09:49 AM

Lee, the slipper tool is in this pic. I've seen a pic of it being used but this is the only one i can find. It's sitting just under the car;)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...s/OOP_8860.jpg

DaveG28 10-03-2008 10:14 AM

Cheers for the info Lee!

Bit of info from Aero (although I'm guessing everyone got the email), they've said the team drivers have been using the 0degree rear toe in so far, so don't think I'm going to bother changing mine!

Has anyone run the car yet, I know they've warned about weak wishbones but I'm interested to see if anyone has dared run it anyway?

Dave

spenner 10-03-2008 10:37 AM

I have run the car the last two weeks at Eden Park and Kidderminster....

I had some sensor wire issues at Eden park which was frustrating, yesterday at Kiddie the car felt really good when the track was dry... could do with a little more time to get perfect set ups..

At the moment there is lot of time being spent on getting the car right for all tracks, this isn't going to happen over night.

I have doubled up on front shock tower to give me the extra 3mm support..
The time spent on getting this car right will only benefit the customers so keep your eyes open on setups and future updates....

Im lucky that i pit with UK Team driver Kev Lee so i can see what effort is being made...

Lee 10-03-2008 10:43 AM

How weak are the wishbones?

The fronts look very similar to bj4 ones.

As soon as i get a dry day im going to have a run out with it:thumbsup:

DaveG28 10-03-2008 10:54 AM

I'm trying to decide how quickly to push mine into action, am I right in thinking there's no spares available as yet?

Does anyone know when they will be available?

spenner 10-03-2008 10:58 AM

Due to the cold that we have in Britain this time of year the wishbone are a little brittle...

They won't break by just going round the track or jumping etc... you would have to hit something to break them.

So they aren't like glass!!!

Lee 10-03-2008 11:04 AM

Will BJ4 ones fit?

And does anyone know when theraceplace will be getting the first batch of bits?:)

stuhurley 10-03-2008 11:05 AM

I broke a front wishbone yesterday and replaced it with a B44 one. There's a small amount of dremmeling to do where the inner hinge pin is (too much plastic on the B44 one) and the hinge pin hole is too small (drilled out to about 3mm).

Also broke a rear hub and replaced it in similar fashion.

I'm fitting alloy rear hubs next but have to get the hinge pin hole drilled out again (3mm).

Lee 10-03-2008 11:11 AM

good to know stu, how did the car go? Did you change it from the std pistons?


Also a little tip, the std O rings feel very hard and tight on the shaft, i rebuilt mine with nortech whities and i filed down the top spacer a touch to stop them being squashed so much. They feel really nice now.

kev told be about the thinner top shim bit but im not sure if he changed the O rings as well:)

stuhurley 10-03-2008 11:24 AM

car was pretty good. my setup needed/needs some work though.

I was running
Rear
32.5wt
blue piston
kit pink spring rear

Front
35wt
orange piston
kit orange springs front.

With hindsight (and talking to some other people)
Rear
30wt
blue piston
Losi Red spring

Front
40wt
red piston
kit orange spring

is a good starting point. (I think KevLee posted above).

Those kit black piston holes are far too small (I just use losi ones now).

Oh, when I changed the front wishbone, I changed both sides. they look identical apart from the extra material around the hinge pin, but you never know. Just keeps it all even

Lee 10-03-2008 11:43 AM

OK cheers stu,

Do you find when running a losi piston at the rear that the car will not pack and slaps down of a jump, i cant get the rear to stop bottoming out from about 8", i think the losi piston might be fractionally smaller in diameter.

I am going to drill out a aero piston to #54/ 1.4mm and try that , the front feels fine though:thumbsup:


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