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Asdesigns 10-01-2012 10:26 AM

1/10 BRCA Regional Series
 
These are the following dates for the BRCA regional series.

Round 1 26/27 May @ BADMCC
Round 2 16/17 June @ NIMCC
Round 3 28/29 July @ BADMCC
Round 4 22 September @ Drop Inn (TBC)

There will be practice on the Saturday from 10:00-12:30. Then race meeting will commence on Sunday.
The day will run along with the 1/8 RCCAOI National rounds. This was done to avoid clashes of dates and free up space on the calendar for other events such as 1/10 RCCAOI National events etc.

Recommend Tyres for NIMCC and Drop Inn are Schumacher Mini Spikes (yellow compound). The Tyres for BADMCC are Losi blockhead fronts (4wd) Losi x-2000 or Losi bigshot rears (both 4wd & 2wd) or Proline Calibers PLEASE NOTE SPIKES ARE NOT PERMITTED AT BADMCC !!!!

Hope everyone can make this series happen as this is the first it has ran for several years. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the clubs for their support and helping me make this happen.

Legacy555 10-01-2012 11:00 AM

Great news Andy!! Well done.
I'm delighted that series is going ahead, I hope its a huge success and that it adds to the resurgence in popularity for the sport in the North at the moment :thumbsup:

There are a few questions that I have - to which there are no right answers, I just want to be able to answer them when the drivers down here ask.

Will marshalling rules be changed so that 1/10th electric drivers marshal their own section, or will they be marshalling the nitros also? Personally, I'd have no problem marshalling the nitro heats, or any 5 minute final... but an extended final (cant remember if they are 30 or 45 minutes) would wreck some electric driver's heads :D - maybe its something to be considered.

The BRCA regionals are for just two classes, 2wd Mod and 4wd Mod. Is there any intention to run a Clubman class along side these to attract novice drivers to the championship. The Clubman racers could run in the same heats as the modified, but have a seperate results table and maybe some trophies at the end of the year. As 75% of our racers in the South run in the resricted class (10.5 motor and no esc timing advance) it would be a shame to exclude these drivers.

Regarding the tyres - you've been very good and recommended several suitable tyres for Aghalee. I just want to clarify what is meant by no spikes - the Losi X-2000 has rows of pins around a central X. Are the pins not spikes? If pins (as per the tyre label description) are allowed, could I use a Losi M3 Step-pin? - this tyre has bigger spikes than a Schumacher Minispike, but they are still called pins. It's a very grey area, and we all want to work with you and Aghalee to ensure that their track is not damaged. But perhaps setting 1 control tyre (I recommend Proline Calibers inline with EFRA dirt events) might rule out any technical issues on the day. It also helps the local retialer with stock requirements.

As I said, I'm absolutely thrilled that not only is the series planned and soon to be up and running, but also that there is enthusiasm in the north to go racing outside :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

colmo 10-01-2012 11:43 AM

I think the point Andy was driving it is that spikes flat out don't work at Aghalee.

There's little sense restricting what dirt tyres people can use, as there are so few on the market here - I'll be trying out the cheapy Fastrax ones, pre-mounted and all. Calibres and Losi X2000s have proven to work well there, with the former on slightly moister clay, and the latter when it dries out.

noreargrip 10-01-2012 11:50 AM

grass type spike tyres are generally harder..not only will they not work they would damage the surface...so any clay/dirt type tyre whatever the tread arrangement would work...I agree with William about a control tyre..this works in all motorsports...I would also recommend proline calibers...that's what I intend to run...holeshots wouldn't last me 2 runs..badmcc seems quite abrasive

noreargrip 10-01-2012 12:07 PM

there is loads of clay tyres available...maybe not in our local hobbyshop...but the compounds and patterns vary vastly ....far far more than any grass / astro tyre...proline,j-concepts,aka,losi,..amounts to dozens of choices from each manufacturer...control tyre is the only way to go for me..

noreargrip 10-01-2012 12:08 PM

badmcc?...dirt?...oh no that means I'll have to order the new b4.1 world edition...what a bummer...lol

colmo 10-01-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noreargrip (Post 605292)
grass type spike tyres are generally harder..not only will they not work they would damage the surface...so any clay/dirt type tyre whatever the tread arrangement would work...I agree with William about a control tyre..this works in all motorsports...I would also recommend proline calibers...that's what I intend to run...holeshots wouldn't last me 2 runs..badmcc seems quite abrasive

Calibres, while expensive, do have excellent wear rate. I'd have no complaints using them. Any old rib tyre will work on the front of a 2wd, I'd suggest leaving those open.

Quote:

Originally Posted by noreargrip (Post 605298)
badmcc?...dirt?...oh no that means I'll have to order the new b4.1 world edition...what a bummer...lol

- just lie back and think of the team discount....or man up and be the one to work out a dirt setup on the Centro!

Mugenextreme 10-01-2012 12:44 PM

If there is no current control tire dont limit the tire choose, i have a ton of bowtie and holeshot tires on rims from last years Euros i want to use up. This event would give me the ideal reason to use them for once.

:thumbsup:

Cardnim 10-01-2012 01:02 PM

+1 for calibers.
Ran one set for 6 full rounds at Aghalee (BADMCC) last season and they were stonking (they get better the more they wear!)
As Colin rightly says, they are slightly better on moist ground, and slightly skiddish when it gets really dry and dusty

... or as colin says, whens the track is Bournville they are good, when its Cadbury's its ok, and Lindt is just plain wrong :p

Asdesigns 10-01-2012 01:13 PM

Ok here we go !!

1: Marshalling :- depending on numbers we will Marshall ourselves. If not the longest you will have to Marshall will be a 7 min 1/8 race. Finals could be longer again depends on number 1/10 drivers.

2: Clubmans Class :- depends on interest of this class DRIVERS CONTACT ME

3: Tyres :- I'm going with Colin on this one. I don't feel it's suitable to call a control tyre as lots of Tyres are available. The ones I posted are the ones that work at agahlee track. As for definition of Tyres it is as Mark said DIRT TYRES ONLY !! that means GRASS TYRES. This is a ruling of the club and we need to respect their wishes or we won't be allowed back !! If anyone is unsure of a tyre send me a pm with the tyre name and model and I'll check with the club if it's permitted.

Hope this helps !!

Asdesigns 10-01-2012 01:15 PM

Doh NO GRASS TYRES !!!!! should really preview before posting lol

Legacy555 10-01-2012 01:22 PM

Spot on Andy, that's good enough for me.

I'll make a list of Clubman drivers from our club who are interested and come back to you.

Might be a good idea to take a show of hands at the next National Indoor round on Feb 5th as there will be alot of travelling drivers there.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

av4625 10-01-2012 06:37 PM

Great news but that means i have to run 1/8th and 1/10th on the same day ill be busy!!!

Asdesigns 13-01-2012 08:43 PM

I can now confirm the last round of the BRCA Regionals has been confirmed for saturday 22nd September at Drop Inn Racing !!

mole2k 25-01-2012 01:25 AM

If there is going to be a clubman class would they be included in the overall rankings just with separate class winners and so still qualify for an F ranking or would they be ran as an entirely separate (non-regional) class and therefore not eligible for ranking?

Asdesigns 25-01-2012 10:45 AM

BRCA ruling doesn't run a clubmans class. 1/10 is an open class for motors no limits. So in keeping with this there will only be two classes 2wd and 4wd.

You can certainly run 10.5 motors and you will receive an F grade on your fininshing position.

I haven't received any interest from any drivers about running a clubmans class and with the organising getting to the critical point I don't foresee a clubmans class being run. Sorry guys, but nobody contacted me about showing interest.

Andy

Cardnim 25-01-2012 10:49 AM

Doesnt affect me too much Andy with no clubman class, but just to highlight something you mentioned in the post above...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asdesigns
You can certainly run 10.5 motors and you will receive an F grade on your fininshing position.

Is this strictly true? Surely if someone runs 10.5, and through a feat of superhuman driving ability beats everyone else then their grading would be top of the pile - not F.

i.e. isnt it down to how well you do in the series, NOT on your motor rating?

Legacy555 25-01-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardnim (Post 611893)
Doesnt affect me too much Andy with no clubman class, but just to highlight something you mentioned in the post above...



Is this strictly true? Surely if someone runs 10.5, and through a feat of superhuman driving ability beats everyone else then their grading would be top of the pile - not F.

i.e. isnt it down to how well you do in the series, NOT on your motor rating?

The "F" gradings are F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 - all are F gradings.
Winner and certain percentage behind will be F1.
Then certain percentage after that will be F2, etc etc.

Asdesigns 25-01-2012 10:56 AM

The F grading I speak of is F2 F3 F4 F5 etc. Yes if a guy running a 10.5 motor wins he does indeed take the win for that round.

BRCA is open motor class. This means you can run any motor you want.

Cardnim 25-01-2012 11:00 AM

DOH!
Sorry, stupid moment there. :blush:

I'll just be in the corner dribbling...

:drool:


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