[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Marvin

But, no person is going to stay in the hobby if they buy something that is toted as 'good enough' which then turns out that they need to spend an extra x amount upgrading all the electrics which were apparantly good enough. From my experience, the kind of people who want to do 1/8th electric don't want to skimp out on costs - it's not a beginner's area at the moment - it's not developed enough for that - and this is proof - the only way it can be made cheaper at the moment is to cut too many corners in the wrong places.

If a company did a 1/8 electronics 'kit' for other cars, for around that price point - then that'd be a good solution. Fine, it still wouldn't be cheap (probably £5-600 RTR), but then it really would be 'good enough' - the approaches taken by Traxxas and HPI for the brushless 1/8 stuff seems to be the best to me, using proven, high quality electronics with a good warranty, and allowing the user to choose their own batteries. No matter which way you cut it, those 3200mAh 20C batteries included in that EP-8 just are not good enough, and the lifetime of those packs will be drastically reduced, won't provide a great run-time (10 minutes maybe?), and they probably aren't 'true 20C' anyway - like many of the 'cheap Ebay job-batteries' out there.

then if they want good gear there not going to buy a cheap rtr