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Old 20-05-2012
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The pics below are of the paintwork on my year 2000 MX5, about 6 months ago these marks started appearing in it and are very noticeable after it's been cleaned. It's affecting the bonnet and boot, not so much the sides. It doesn't look like its really surface finish and a bit of polish didn't touch it.

Any ideas what I can do, might be my wedding car in 5 weeks.





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Is it on the surface, or are there little "puts"
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strange! has the car been recently repainted or such?
doesn't look like your usual paint/clear problems so without actually seeing it in person i would guess it's gonna need stripping n repainting. take it to your local bodyshop for a bit of advice.
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That looks like solvent pop but if it hasn't been painted recently it can't be. Without a doubt it's a respray I'm affraid
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Looks like when it was painted it had a silicon problem affect the paint, did they start to show up when you washed it more ?

It would have taken some doing but those tinted polishes might have been able to hide it.

As mentioned above without seeing it in the flesh very difficult to work it out. Go to at least 2 body shops and ask them their professional opinion. Did you buy it privately or from a dealer ? If it was from a dealer I'd be tempted to go back there with it and see if they know anything about it. I presume you did an HPI check on it when you bought it ? If not I'd do one now just to check.
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solvent pop or water blisters from the primer or base coat, as already stated respray I'm afraid Dan,usually caused when wet flatting base coat or primer and not throughly dried out before top coat,
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looks as though it could be pitting, where bits of tiny grit are stuck on the surface and work into the paint. A clay bar may get rid of it, followed by a tcut and polish. Worth a shot as it wont do any further damage in the worst case.
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Don't wash it?
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The pics below are of the paintwork on my year 2000 MX5, about 6 months ago these marks started appearing in it and are very noticeable after it's been cleaned. It's affecting the bonnet and boot, not so much the sides. It doesn't look like its really surface finish and a bit of polish didn't touch it.

Any ideas what I can do, might be my wedding car in 5 weeks.





It looks like micro blisters usually caused by contaminated air (water) when being sprayed. Not seen this in a long time That’s why most body shops have dryers on the air lines these days. Solution strip and re-paint.
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Any ideas what I can do, might be my wedding car in 5 weeks.
The car is trying to tell you something its warning you DONT GET MARRIED. Trust it.
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I agree with all of the above dan mate, to me it looks like water blistering.
Could be from a waterbase colour not being dried out enough before laquering.
Sand down and paint properly is your only cure. Or, carbon wrap the bonnet!!
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happened on roof of my 106 if you remember dan, and spread like wild fire, it crackup in the end and the started to peel off had to most of the car respayed
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Wow,

Thanks for all the replies! I need to check tonight to see if it feels like it's blistered or not. I've had the car for a year now (bought privatly) and though I knew it has has some paint (done well) to the rear arches I would have said that the rest was original.

Interested in this claying, I've read some of Nick Goodals's posts and heard it refered to but don't really know what it means or what to buy, any idiots guide links available?

HPI clear no concerns with that, no chance of me carbon wrapping it on the basis I think it makes your car look like a taxi.

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Get it wrapped in red vinyl! Cheaper and easier than painting it. ( obviously not as nice tho)
You might not feel blistering on the bonnet mate, could all be well burried under laquer. Perhaps they only had bonnet done to get rid of stone chips, happens quite regularly in car sales.
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Get it wrapped in red vinyl! Cheaper and easier than painting it. ( obviously not as nice tho)
You might not feel blistering on the bonnet mate, could all be well burried under laquer. Perhaps they only had bonnet done to get rid of stone chips, happens quite regularly in car sales.
http://paintcarendetailing.com/clay.html

Give it a good clay bar on the bonnet, then tcut it after and give it a polish, it may just do it for you. Worst case scenario you waste £20 trying.
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I dont think claying will remove that!

Take it to a proper valeter...i.e one of the ones from the Detailing world site , even better pop those pics up on there , see what the guys think.
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Another vote for claying (although I'm not sure it'll help in this case). Hadn't used it until a few years ago, but after using it I'm a convert. Used it on my 911 before polish and you could feel how much smother the surface was afterwards, all the dust and really fine grain dirt was lifted straight off the surface.
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Even buffing it won't shift that. My first classic mini (1996!) did this on the original paint on the bonnet, was caused by I suspect sunlight on the red paint using cheap washing products and not drying it in hot sunlight. The sun passes through the lacquer and fades the paint as red fades badly. Yours could be different, as the pattern in the red doesn't look the same.

And.... I fixed it by respraying it.

I know someone who'd do you a great job at reasonable price, text me if you want his details.
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I think it looks quite cool actually. Your own custom sparkly paint
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Hi Dan,

Best bet would be to have a word with the previous owner to see if he took someone on to do the bodywork, if he took on someone on the SMART repair side for them to paint & laquer full panels, especially a full bonnet is a big ask in the conditions they work in. I know this first hand!

As suggested take the car into a couple of bodyshops to get some quotes, i know a trainer who has 20 plus years of shop experience so if you need an honest unbiased opinion give me a shout & i can pass the details over to him.
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