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Just had my old man asking about the new anti terrorist laws he has seen in his daily rag can not find any info on it being a spoof
[link]http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1218318.ece[/link]

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Ouch bloody cruel that especially with the biggest threat to us being the wan#*% s runnin the show from westminster
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This is EU wide and is to do with a new law regarding explosive presurors this includes liquids such as nitro with more then 23% nitro methane
In Northern Ireland anyway the lads racing there are currently await details of a licence which is being made available to allow the general public to buy,hold and transport fuels higher then 23% legally .licence is a 3 year licence and cost is approx 35pounds.
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Also if u look at www.EFRA.WS there was a post prior to the worlds back in August which talked about this issue.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rror-laws.html
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No guarantee that every country in the EU will have a licence option. It may be possible for some countries to just ban over 23% nitro which could mess things up for some racers
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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2...0141942_en.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...vicepublic.pdf

there is two links to details on the change
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That last reference...( excellent by the way ) says a licence is needed for nitro methane over 30%.....so we should be ok..
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your right it does say 30% but w/w ( by weight) which i am informed is equivalent to 23% vol ( in a liquid)
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I would imagine that this topic might come up at the Brca AGM. They are down as a targeted Organisation for the Consultation on this new Law.


https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...nsultation.pdf
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Sod the nitro go brushless
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Sod the nitro go brushless
errr, lipos might be next...
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errr, lipos might be next...
Already are

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I can understand authorities want to increase safety, I mean: Many of us have seen what even a smaller LiPo pack may do once it combusts, either on video or right in front of them. The same counts for chemicals, of course, they can be dangerous...

...However (pretty much as you would expect from government agencies), they're tackling the problem the wrong way: There seems to be a perception that making something unattractive and expensive will make things safer. But what it boils down to is not how much capacity you're carrying around at once, but how you handle it! It would be good if they taught people at post offices a basic perception of safety so this type of goods can be monitored by individuals. If you'll let them judge based on the scenario that they'd be in the same vehicle as that cargo, their judgement won't be too clouded. Trust the individual every once in a while.

Let's just say the authorities are running wild and becoming paranoid on whatever drug they're consuming (too much of statistics, tables, ranks and regulations if you ask me)
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In the link on the consultation (thanks Mugenextreme) it says that the Treasury guidelines are that licensing costs are to be fully recovered. If not many people apply for a licence then the costs are spread amongst a few people so they will go up from £40. Look what they have done to Passports - my last one was £15, ten years later it's £90. It might look a reasonable cost now...

My first thought is to turn the nitro down to 20% by volume and avoid the problem. But I am an electric racer...!
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Surely all this needs is for all I.C. sections to mandate 16% Nitro content(already commercially available)?

1:8 I.C. and 1:10 I.C. circuit already do this. RallyCross, 1:8 I.C. stock cars, and Nitro bikes don't appear to have any reference to fuel Nitro content in their rules.

If 1:8 I.C. & 1:10 I.C. can do it so can everyone else.
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