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Old 27-01-2007
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I haven't run the CR outdoors yet. I've only run it through the winter indoors. Altho when I do eventually go outdoors I will start with a set-up similar to this. I have developed this set-up over winter and find myself just do minor changes now, so I think it is pretty much there.
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Old 28-01-2007
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Tom

Surely you would change the front, a little? Black spring?? Do you run any weight in the back?

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Old 28-01-2007
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The only weight I run is 15g in the front bulkhead. As I said I have never run the car outdoors, but when I do I will start off with what I finish with indoors, and I can't see that being much different to this.

Going outdoors will be a learning curve for me with this car so it may change, I just don't know yet.
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the set up we run in doors is almost identical to what we run out doors its the tyres change
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Old 28-01-2007
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Have a look at the Helger Racing web-site, they are gathering a collection of XXX-CR set-ups (both indoor and outdoor). Mine from todays Coventry Winter meeting should be on there shortly.

try either

www.helgerracing.com

or direct ot the XXX-CR set-ups

http://www.helgerracing.com/eknowled...etupspage.html
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Old 30-01-2007
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Hi Phil

Couldn't post it on here?

Thanks

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Old 30-01-2007
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Here is Phil’s setup from Sunday 28th January, for his XXXcr, also included are his settings for
His LRP Sphere Competition 2007 brushless speedo, and a new photo for his profile.

Front
Toe - 0
Ride Height – Wishbones Level
Camber - -1
Caster – STD Hubs, See Notes
Sway Bar - None
Oil – 37.5
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring - Blue
Limiters - None
Spindle Location - Low
Steering Ackerman – Rack
Bump Steer - 0
Camber Link – 2A (3 gold washers)
Shock Location - 3 Middle
VLA – Short
Front Wing – No


Notes – 20g in bulkhead

3 gold washers between front pivot and bulkhead on front screws, reducing kick up to 25deg

Rear
Toe-In - 3 deg
Pivot Support – 0deg block (shimmed to 1deg)
Rear Hub Spacing – Middle
Driveshafts/Outdrives – Steel Dogbones/Steel Outdrives
Ride Height - Driveshafts Level
Sway Bar - None
Oil – 32.5
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring – Yellow (2 coils cut off)
Limiters - Inside 0.050” - Outside 0
Camber Link – 3-E (hub ball stud, spaced as high as possible)
Shock Location - 4 Middle
VLA - Long
Wing - XXXcr half gurney (with extra element)
Wing Position - Middle
Battery
Position - Forward
Notes -

Tyres:-
Front - Schumacher Yellow mini's Losi firm insert
Rear - Schumacher Yellow Mini spikes Losi firm insert


Speedo:-
LRP Sphere Competition 2007 (settings 2-3-3-2)
Motor:-
LRP X11 6.5T Brushless motor

Gearing:-
84 / 18
Batteries:-
LRP VTEC 4200hv2 NiMh BIG MAMA Factory packs
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Couple fo questions regarding this set up;

1. Any weight in the back?
2. Shimmed, I guess the rear block is flipped with a washer in the front? to increase rear anti squat?
3. Rear camber link position, how many washers is the maximum you can put under the ball stud?
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What does cutting the springs down do?
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Couple fo questions regarding this set up;

1. Any weight in the back?
2. Shimmed, I guess the rear block is flipped with a washer in the front? to increase rear anti squat?
3. Rear camber link position, how many washers is the maximum you can put under the ball stud?
I don't think he has the rear block flipped over.
Basically keep adding washers until you are nearly touching the inside of the wheel

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What does cutting the springs down do?
It makes them slightly stiffer
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On the losi xxxcr setup sheets, the rear hubs have abcedabc but nobody ever states if it is the front abc or the rear abc they use, or is the rear abc not used, thanks

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Most use the forward holes, but the hubs are universal so can be used either side.
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anyone have a tiverton set up sheet xx4we
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Old 31-03-2007
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Carl,
I ran my xx4 at the last round of the tivvy winter series. This setup it was not absolutely dialed but i ddnt have much time to change it, but it is a good stater.

XX4 WE Tiverton Indoor

Front:

Oil: 35
Spring: silver
Piston: Orange
Internal spring: yes
Ride height: Driveshafts level
Shock location: 3inside
Washer under camber link: 1



Rear

Oil:30
Spring:Pink
Piston:Blue
Shock position:3inside
Camber position:8c
Tyres: Losi red stud front, proline step pins rear.

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cheers thats roughly what i was going to do thanks again
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Anyone got a starting setup for southport?
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Old 04-04-2007
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Anyone got a starting setup for southport?
Are you looking for a XX4 or XXXCR setup?
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Sorry XXXCR
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Old 04-04-2007
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I'd really recommend the following, I've been running it for a while now and it seems to like most tracks I've run at.

I admit it does take a little extra work to get the drilled pistons, the change of front kick-up and the cut rear springs but I do think it's well worht a try.

I'd be interested in the opinions of anyone that tries the set-up

Front
Toe – 0
Ride Height – Wishbones Level
Camber – 1 deg neg.
Caster – STD Hubs, See Notes
Sway Bar – None
Oil – 37.5wt Losi
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring – Blue
Limiters – None
Spindle Location – Low
Steering Ackerman – Rack
Bump Steer – 0
Camber Link – 2 / A (1 gold washers)
Shock Location – 3 / Middle
VLA – Short
Front Wing – No
Notes – 30g in bulkhead or brass bulkhead
3 gold washers between front pivot and bulkhead on front screws,
reducing kick up to 25deg

Rear
Toe-In – 3 deg
Pivot Support – 0deg block (shimmed to 1deg)
Rear Hub Spacing – Middle
Driveshafts/Outdrives – Steel Dogbones/Steel Outdrives
Ride Height – Driveshafts Level
Sway Bar – None
Oil – 32.5wt Losi
Piston – Drilled 554
Spring – Yellow (2 coils cut off)
Limiters – Inside = 0.050” – Outside = none
Camber Link – 3 / E (hub ball stud, spaced as high as possible)
Shock Location – 4 / Middle
VLA – Long
Wing – XXXcr half gurney (with extra element)
Wing Position – Middle
Battery Position – Forward

Tyres:-
Front - Schumacher Yellow Mini Spikes Losi firm insert
Rear - Schumacher Yellow Mini Spikes Losi firm insert

Speedo:-
LRP Sphere Competition 2007 (settings 2-3-3-2)
Motor:-
LRP X11 6.5T Brushless motor
Gearing:-
84 / 18
Batteries:-
LRP VTEC 4200hv2 NiMh BIG MAMA Factory packs
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Old 04-04-2007
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phil, thanks very much, when you say 554 on the piston, what does the 4 relate too again, i remember the info was on doughty.net but that is down at the moment so i cant refresh my memory, sorry to be a pain.

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