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Old 02-09-2013
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Default Lipo Postage Restrictions

This is an abbreviation of the thread found here: http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135288

Royal Mail details here: http://www.royalmail.com/business/he...stricted-goods

Quote:
Originally Posted by Royal Mail
Batteries - lithium ion/polymer batteries contained in/connected to an electronic device


Each package must contain no more than four cells or two batteries installed in equipment. The maximum net quantity of cells or batteries is 5kg per package. Watt-hour rating must not exceed 20Wh per cell or 100Wh per battery. Each cell and battery must be of a type proven to meet the requirements of each test in the UN Manual of Tests and Criteria, Part III, section 38.3. Batteries are subject to these tests irrespective of whether the cells of which they are composed have been so tested.

Cells and batteries must be manufactured under a quality management programme as specified in the International Civil Aviation Organization’s Technical Instructions for the Safe Transport of Dangerous Goods by Air. Cells or batteries that are defective for safety reasons, or that have been damaged, are forbidden. Any person preparing or offering cells or batteries with or in equipment for transport must receive adequate instruction on the requirements commensurate with their responsibilities. Cells and batteries must be protected against short circuit.

The equipment containing cells or batteries must be packed in strong rigid packaging and must be secured against movement within the outer packaging and packed to prevent accidental activation. The sender’s name and return address must be clearly visible on the outer packaging.

Lithium ion/polymer batteries sent in isolation are prohibited. Please see www.royalmail.com/prohibitedgoods/business

Batteries - lithium ion/polymer batteries sent with, but not connected to, an electronic device


The maximum number of batteries allowed in each package is the number that may be connected to the equipment plus two spares. The maximum net quantity of cells or batteries is 5kg per package. Watt-hour rating must not exceed 20Wh per cell or 100Wh per battery. Each cell and battery must be of a type proven to meet the requirements of each test in the UN Manual of Tests and Criteria, Part III, section 38.3. Batteries are subject to these tests irrespective of whether the cells of which they are composed have been so tested.

Cells and batteries must be manufactured under a quality management programme as specified in the International Civil Aviation Organization’s Technical Instructions for the Safe Transport of Dangerous Goods by Air. Cells or batteries that are defective for safety reasons, or that have been damaged, are forbidden. Any person preparing or offering cells or batteries with or in equipment for transport must receive adequate instruction on the requirements commensurate with their responsibilities. The consignment must be accompanied with a document with an indication that the package contains lithium ion cells or batteries; that the package must be handled with care and that a flammability hazard exists if the package is damaged; that special procedures must be followed in the event the package is damaged, to include inspection and repacking if necessary; and also a telephone number for additional information.

Cells and batteries must be packed in inner packagings that completely enclose the cell or battery. Cells and batteries must be protected against short circuit, including protection against contact with conductive materials within the same packaging that could lead to a short circuit. The equipment sent with cells or batteries must be packed in strong rigid packaging and must be secured against movement within the outer packaging and packed to prevent accidental activation.

Lithium battery handling label to be applied ( see an example lithium battery label Opens in new window ). The sender’s name and return address must be clearly visible on the outer packaging.

Lithium ion/polymer batteries sent in isolation are prohibited.
Please see www.royalmail.com/prohibitedgoods/business
This last, bold and highlighted section, is the bit that concerns most of us oOple users - basically you cannot sent a lipo (or 2) in the post without it connected to an ESC. Which I would advise against anyway...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Neiloliver
The likes of DHL will ship Lithium ion batteries, excepted from dangerous good regulation as long as the batteries are each <100Wh, have been tested to the UN T1-T8 tests and they are packaged / labelled correctly. I think the maximum number of batteries per package is two but I need to confirm that. The person packaging the batteries must receive adequate training.

Increased transportation regulation for batteries is something we have to live with and no-one should try and falsify as shipping declaration - people go to jail and receive large fines every year for this offence. It is taken very seriously, especially in the US.
It should be noted that Neil is a battery god - if he doesn't know it then it's not worth knowing.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry.sc
If the buyer doesn't receive the goods then it is the seller is the one out of pocket. If you managed to buy some lipos from Amazon, they sent it by post and the post office destroyed the package you would expect to be reimbursed as it was Amazons responsibility to get the lipos to you. The same with selling second hand lipos, it's the sellers responsibility to deliver the goods paid for.

Offer the option of using a courier or the post office, pointing out that the post office might destroy the lipos, and any sensible buyer should go for the extra cost of a courier. Of course if the post office did destroy the package there aren't many buyers who will just shrug it off as their loss, the ones who will still demand their money back will usually be the same ones who would cheap out on the postage in the first place, so good luck in resolving it.
SELLERS
As Terry posted above, the responsibility in the eyes of the law, falls on your shoulders. It is upto you to do this the right way.

BUYERS
It is your responsibility to make sure your seller is sending the lipo's the correct way. Surely you'd rather have the item than not?

Small print...
As always, oOple.com accepts no responsibility for lipo's sent the incorrect way, lipo's destroyed by the post office, or for buyers being too tight to pay the correct postage costs.
 

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