Kyosho Ultima RB5 - full details

[modelimages]

it should be at the first regional on the 8th assuming it arrives in time, for me to drive it wouldn't be a good test, i couldn't get round the first corner

[Sabben]

I think it looks nice, seem very... erh..."racy"?

Are there any plans of making a carbon konversion for this? Maybe KM will make a kit like the conversion kit for the Lazer...?

[woOdy]

Originally Posted by modelimages

team drivers can be a pain, after all you give them a car for the season expecting them to run it and half way through the season they start running something else at meetings, all the drivers know your a driver for losi/ae/etc and your running something else what does that say about the car?.

as for the shop demonstrator, i have a choice of several drivers lee martin,tony truman, kevin lee all f1 and national A finalists, but to give a car a true test it needs to be in the hands of a specialist. clearly there is only one boy for the job.

I have seen drivers do this but it does depend on the driver. If you get the right driver for the job in hand then they will respect the product. A very good example are the X Factory boys over here( Chris and Dan). They have started with it and they have progressed and now they are part of a very good family. It does depend on the driver!

[woOdy]

I have confimation today that there will be team but they are very busy right now so it will be decided very soon. Please dont listen to any other coments about this as they are untrue.

[DCM]

man, I hope they pluck you up woody!!!

[shinytopman]

Originally Posted by DCM

man, I hope they pluck you up woody!!!

Ditto!!!

[KyoshoK]

oooo anly a few more weeks to go. if its as durable as the zx-5, with just a few minor hop-ups, then i'll be happy.

mark pavidis is running it this weekend at cactus race.

[woOdy]

Just to say thanks for all you kind words but I am afraid I cant wait any longer as the season starts in a few weeks and i need to practice with a new car/cars.

[jimmy]

I am looking forward to review this car on release - and have some big plans in place for the car already to help establish it as a serious competitor.

[bert digler]

Originally Posted by jimmy

I am looking forward to review this car on release - and have some big plans in place for the car already to help establish it as a serious competitor.

is it right that its 330 dollars 30 more than a lazer

[shinytopman]

Good on ya Jimmy, theres been two dominant names in 2wd for far two long now it's about time the mould was broken or at very least cracked/challenged.

Woody, know where your coming from! All the best, im sure your do well!

It's a shame these people drag there heels, could be a bad start for a good car. You'd have thought that they would have learnt that lesson from the ZX5 a great car. Popular car but let down by support, support that could have made it much more popular and even a winner.

[jim76]

Originally Posted by woOdy

Just to say thanks for all you kind words but I am afraid I cant wait any longer as the season starts in a few weeks and i need to practice with a new car/cars.

will you run a ZX5 in 4wd though?
ah, just read the Oople 501x thread. guess not! :-(

[JonBoy]

Hi guys,

I'm back and will try to do my best to stay tune on Ooople as i like this forum...

But I went trough all this thread and read it all.... Unfortunately, i won't be able to answer each person and all questions.... But all i want now it's to stop all the crap and untrue stories going around....

1 - The Ultima RB5 should reach shops between the 3rd April and the week after....

2 - Woody is a nice guy that I'd like to meet for his professional personality and a great driver that unfortunately won't have the chance to join Kyosho this season...

3 - Kyosho UK won't set up any EP Team this year and for many reasons... And i want to thanks all the drivers who applied and took the time to support us during the last few months... But i can assure many of you that i will work hard to get a Team up and ready for 2008.... Just cross fingers that Kyosho UK gets even bigger this year...

4 - A few guys will find it hard knowing that i have been around here and was the most exited about having a team and more.... But many have to know, we are taking a year away to think and come back stronger (no rush, no worry) because we are really disappointed with the EP field that has been a real lost or disaster in 2005-2006 when we saw many drivers / shops that we helped and gone for an another brand/car in the middle of the season. Or even worst, not having any feedback from no one as part 2 guys (They know who they are) and will ever thanks them for supporting Kyosho in 2006....

I hope that i have clarified a few things, feel free to ask me anything as i will be happy to help you out.... and all the best for 2007 to all racers...

Thanks, John

[DCM]

I think, with a new car in 2wd coming out, and a UK spec ZX-5, to not actively promote at least one driver (woody maybe) would be, to the racing fraternity, suicide by Kyosho UK, so many people would realy look seriously at the 2wd, to try something new, and if you have a team driver capable of bringing the car along, so new owners got a good UK base setting would just help add to sales.

But that is my personal opinion after seeing the total disaster that has been Academy in the UK.

[jim76]

I agree with DCM. the lazer is a hugely popular club car due to it being half the price of an X10, BJ4 WE, Yoke etc.
Nathan Ralls helped people no end last year with set up advice and build tips to improve the reliability of the car. I would not have qualified 4th behind him at tiverton F3's if it wasn't for his continued help over the weekend and i will sorely miss him this year.
And with a new 2wd coming out, club racers are going to want a decent starting set up from a recognised driver, along with any build tips. Otherwise they will by the car for curiosity, run it, think it handles poorly or breaks down, then sell it cheap, as happened in the early days of the ZX5 here.

A big missed opportunity for Kyosho, and i think they will struggle to get a foothold a year down the line.

[woOdy]

Sorry guys I will try Next year.

[jimmy]

It's a shame, but I will review the Ultima soon and hopefully help provide a decent resource for RB5 owners - possibly a long-term test also, wait and see.

[shinytopman]

Originally Posted by JonBoy

Hi guys,

Just cross fingers that Kyosho UK gets even bigger this year...

Hi Jon,

Your statement here says it all.

I cant help but also to agree with DCM and jim76.

Personally if it was me launching a new product into a very competative market i would want it to go in with some impact to make it stand out and get noticed, not just hopefully kicking around the back of the pit area hoping somebody will notice it, or even pick it out in a race when its surrounded by B4's which are more easily recognised to most.

As DCM said if it had a named drive at the helm to give it a foot hold, and make it show its potential by challenging the B4's and XXX's.
A good solid review from the likes of jimmy ( who's review of the ZX5 made my mind up really that it was the 4wd for me!) then sales will increase as people would look to the change there cars. There would be a new contender to the run of the mill 2wd's.
But on the other hand if there not shown competitvely in the field then im sorry to say i dont hold much hope for sucsess for the RB, i wish it well mind, i really do would be grand to see it running well up there!

I guess what im saying is it would be a shame to see it just become "a good club car" like the zx5. By never really coming too fruit, through lack of knowledge and support in its maiden year.

As somebody looking at getting into 2wd, im gonna be looking with interest at what cars are doing well to influence my decision in what to buy.
People are going to spend there hard earned readies on what they can see, or read what is winning the races, as we all aspire to be the next race winner!

And im sure if you were in our shoes you would do the same thing.


Just the ramblings of a die hard RC fan

[DCM]

Maybe the fact of the matter was that in the first year, there was maybe a poor 'choice' of driver or shop support, or no more intrinsic tie-in to driver and distributor.

I remember Stu Wood of old, and he was Mr Traxxas, he showed loyalty and realy pulled the car out of the weeds and into the limelight. I think the current market are looking for something new to run, but don't want to be the 'odd one' working on their own.

The correct choice of driver is so important. It is fine to offer discounted 'team' drives through shops, but you don't have much feedback or responsibility, but to support a driver direct, there is a much greater bond.

[shinytopman]

Wait guy's got a great idea !

Jonboy why not help jimmy out with a bit of help and support with a long-term RB review.

Woody could race it on a long-term test (and give it a solid base in the uk) enabling jimmy to give it followup reviews.

All under the guise of Team Oople, and everybodies a winner !

Woody gets a good challenge to bring on the car!

Jimmy gets a chance to do what he's great at "writing brilliant reviews"!

And Jonboy you and kyosho get the best of both worlds!
Great reviews,
Top class driver,
And this all adds up good support and hopefully results for the RB.

And all this to the advantage of us racers to!

Just a thought ( Great one in my opinion )


Now see if u guys can pull it off !