Oswestry National

[IceMike]

Hello Everyone, Thought that we would start a thread for this.

The main reason is that we are currently thinkin about track design and the features for the track this year, and we are thinkin about gettin the materials.
This is a small request for the drivers ideas for jumps and features. Some of you may know that we are NOT aloud to do permenant changes to the grounds so the feature must be removable and multi directional for the two track days. Please can you get me any ideas preferably before the 15th Feb, and send them to the icemike@oswestryrcc.org let me know if there is a problem with that address.

Thanks

Mike

[bigred5765]

try to get some of York or worksops indoor features in there, or get them in with design,

[Jamie B4]

Try and not make the jumps random, these cars may be offroad but do not mean they need to be sent vertical at any occasion. If the jumps are do - able then the race wil be won by the best driver and not the elements of the track.

The closer the racing the more chance to actually see who is the best

[IceMike]

Im really askin for actual jump and feature designs

[Jamie B4]

That's easy speak to bury/worksop/ or make a post were the top guys in nationals let you know what design they want - doubles/singles/two tier etc

[IceMike]

Thats wot this is for :P lol

[bigred5765]

if your after specifics, a nice table top jump, a good couple of multi jumps IE rhythm sections,doubles, triples,no crappy rumble strips,

[millzy]

what’s the diff between a rumble strip and a rhythm section?

keep it simple jumps and down ramps, you don have to make them go high

you could build two table tops about 2ft high 4ft long with equal 8ft down ramps and then have kicker jumps just before the table top about 1ft away so that you can clear the table top and hit the down ramp

All you would have to do for the 4wd is pick the kicker up and put it the other side of the table top

If you wanted to make one a little different you could put a curved hump before the kicker making the drivers think about there throttle control before they hit the kicker again you could just pick it up and put it the other
side for the 4wd event

[ben]

Maybe a corner table top? Couple of double's with small'ish gap's..just before corners, so that you dont have to go further than the down ramp to be fast.


Is "danny's lawn mowing" making a return this year?

[millzy]

a good corner table top not one where you have to jump over the apex and land on the down ramp id make it 75degress not 90

[Lee]

Short grass

[millzy]

funny

but not helpfull

come on if you lot what OZ to be good save the crap joke and tell them what you want how you want it and the on the day if its not good you can blame your selfs

[IceMike]

thanks millzy!! :P

NO GRASS JOKES PLEASE COS THAT REALLY ISNT HELPFUL IN ANYWAY

[Northy]

Originally Posted by IceMike

........the feature must be multi directional for the two track days......

Please no. Mike, these do not work IMHO. If the thing needs turning round there are plenty of us there to help. I good up ramp does not make a good down ramp IMHO. I like Millzy's idea of the movable kicker.

If you need any help, just ask.

G

[Lee]

Agreed with G, down slopes should be 2x as long as an up ramp, surely that was evident from last years table top in front of the rostrum. I usually like a good bit of table top action but i dreaded that thing in both directions.

A section where you can gamble and go big to make up a bit of time would be good or play safe and be consistant. This would produce good racing in the finals IMO

ie, a triple, or 2 table tops one after the other.

[Yardeeee]

At the end of the day, it is your track Mike, you have the right to put in what features you see fit and to put your own stamp on it.

All that racers really ask for is this:
Consistent features
Universally achievable features (yes, the national series has the cream of the crop competing, but it also has the other end of the spectrum who pay the same entry fee and deserve to be able to enjoy the track and not just have 5 minutes of frustration every run)
A good size track, not easy but one that will allow the less experienced to get around, but the experienced to get round faster.

and perhaps most importantly, a racetrack, this is not rock crawling or aerobatics

Stick to the basics of things like widths and heights, take into account the potential for bad weather i.e. don't use exposed wood too often. You have a bunch of experienced guys at the club and I'm sure they will come up with something.

I wish you well, do the mid west proud

[millzy]

Originally Posted by Lee

Agreed with G, down slopes should be 2x as long as an up ramp, surely that was evident from last years table top in front of the rostrum. I usually like a good bit of table top action but i dreaded that thing in both directions.

A section where you can gamble and go big to make up a bit of time would be good or play safe and be consistant. This would produce good racing in the finals IMO

ie, a triple, or 2 table tops one after the other.

If you fancy making a triple, what I would do is making both end ramps as kicker humps and the centre as equal sided hump this will allow for the triple to be jumpable from both directions. Then on the day place a board (or two giving the width we need) about 4ft longer than that days end kicker on its peak point thus changing the angle and giving you a smooth down ramp that can be easily unscrewed picked up and placed the on the other kicker for the 4wd running the other way

simples yes

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by millzy

what’s the diff between a rumble strip and a rhythm section?

rumble strip is like pieces of corrugated roofing , a rhythm section is multiple jumps doable in 1 then 2 or a 2 plus 2 etc

[IceMike]

Thanks everyone, alot of really good suggestions and have a few good ideas in my head

[Body Paint]

The idea behind your double last year was good, however, I thought it was a bit steep both on the take off and landing. Perhaps something similar but make it a tripple or even a quad, but make the humps about the same height as last year but a lot shallower.

I also liked the table top but as Northy says maybe you could make the downramp longer than the upramp, makes for a much more consistent feature. IMHO downramps should be no steeper than 30 degrees.