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Default Other cars to be re relised ???

With the arrival off the Rc10 classic and now the worlds. Do you think any others will be put back into production from team associated or any one else ??

Or would this kill off the vintage scene ?
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I don't think AE will release any more old cars but maybe some of the other manufacturers will given the interest that there is in the retro/vintage racing now.
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I hope Schumacher re-release the Couger 2 Works. I pray every night. COME ON SCHUMACHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I thank more companies will ! We all like being a kid again
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Can't think of many other cars that would have quite the same world wide market appeal.

The tamiya rough rider/sand scorcher were special csrs because they were the first really popular off road cars that were raced in significant numbers - when I started racing that was really all there was so there are plenty of peolpe who raced them back then and wanted a retro one.

The rc10 was a significant advancement in off road cars - it made a lot of the other cars around at the time look like toys. That plus the fact it seemed to be so sucessful over such a long time scale. Oh yeah, it is american so a huge home market.

There have been loads of great schumacher cars but not sure they would have quite the same world wide appeal. Maybe the original CAT but not sure how many peolpe would have the patience to build one

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I don't think AE will release any more old cars
Well an RC1 or early RC12 would be cool....

but yeah slim chance of that happening
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I think losi xx and yokomo yz10
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Didnt losi lose a lot of old equipment in a fire? Im sure i read about it in an american magazine.
I would love a jrx2 re release. I used to love the look of it but couldnt persuade my parents to get me one.
And an original schumacher cat and topcat (i would like to see some subtle improvements like tamiya have done, on the known weaker parts).
I was reading on another site that schumacher havent kept their old moulds and tooling, and a re release would be expensive to produce. Im not sure how true that is though.
I do think they would sell a lot if they did produce them.
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I would imagine or hope to see an RC10T at some time, it would be the next logical step from what work they have already done. AE/TT had to start from scratch with the Re-Re, as they had no moulds or tooling from the original and this must be applauded.

Can't ever see Losi reproducing the JRX as they don't see it as viable, which is a shame. Tamiya, Yokomo or Kyosho would be the more likely to reproduce something, but imagine it would be early stuff, Yokomo are doing the 834B.

Would like to see Schumacher do something, the obvious been the original Cougar. Although I'd love to see them do a Cat XLS, with them doing new parts for all the bits we had to upgrade
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Yes think I heard about a losi fire !!! Hope those yoyo's were in there lol
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I'm pretty sure Associated claimed for years an RC10 re-re was impossible so I'd take that with a pinch of salt. I think they claimed lack of the old tooling too.
In any case there are companies in China who seem to make a knock off of the latest cars with no real difficulty so I think anything could be produced if people really wanted it!

But aside from the JRX-2 I can't think of anything truly iconic that people would really want today. I'd love a CAT or YZ870c but I'm not sure I'd want the hassle of keeping them running - they aren't as low maintenance as modern cars. I suppose a Optima might be interesting.
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Well I will hope for a yz10
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Stop, please stop!!! Why can't I leave my youth behind? Because you lot want to keep dragging it up in the form of luke-warm pastiches of iconic originals that were only legends because of th time they raced in. Haven't you got anything better to do?!!!

My grandparents went from horses and coaches to cars and telephones; from classical music to jazz to crooners to big bands and left each previous phase behind. My parents went from war to peace, from jazz to pop to rock, from Glen Miller to the Beatles, from Austin 7s to Minis and Anglias, from renting to buying, from radio to TV.

ME? I've gone from the Beatles to Oasis to boy bands all playing the same music; from Beatles songs to copies of Beatles songs; from Minis to...er... Minis; from VW Camper vans to... er... VW Camper vans; from telephones to er... telephones; from encyclopaedias full of information to an internet full of... er... information.

And now you lot want to bring back all the are I raced in the 70s and 80s!! Aaarrgghhhh!!! I want to leave my youth behind and enjoy progress and different things like my forebears did. Is that too much to ask??

(Whilst this is a bit OTT and tongue in cheek, it has a serious point. My generation - born in the late 40s and 50s - are the first to have all the things we did in our youth follow us around as we approach retirement. It is rather weird that today no one can think of anything new to replace what went before, and so many of you want things we made 20, 30 and 40 years ago. I'll take that as a compliment to us who did it first, but please go and do something new!)
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I'll take that as a compliment to us who did it first, but please go and do something new!)
They did it was called computer games and mobile phones
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would love to see a re-release of the losi xx
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How about a Cat XLS/Procat/Bosscat but with the gearbox re-engineered as the belt system just wasn't efficient enough, and ditch those vari-random shock pistons we all swapped for losi ones. Even a re-release of the Cat 2000SE but including all the purple and carbon bits we all added (with the laydown suspension too) - this was my all time favourite Schumacher personally.

Same with the Cougar 2, didn't that have a belt drive gearbox too?
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How about a Cat XLS/Procat/Bosscat but with the gearbox re-engineered as the belt system just wasn't efficient enough, and ditch those vari-random shock pistons we all swapped for losi ones. Even a re-release of the Cat 2000SE but including all the purple and carbon bits we all added (with the laydown suspension too) - this was my all time favourite Schumacher personally.

Same with the Cougar 2, didn't that have a belt drive gearbox too?
With today's electronic who needs efficiency?
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Tamiya, Yokomo or Kyosho would be the more likely to reproduce something, but imagine it would be early stuff, Yokomo are doing the 834B.
Erm..
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/radi...ting&submit=Go
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/radi...ting&submit=Go

Tamiya have been selling rereleases since 2004, quite easy for them as they are the biggest and most well known r/c car company in the world.
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Didnt losi lose a lot of old equipment in a fire? Im sure i read about it in an american magazine.
Gil Losi had a lipo fire which destroyed his home garage completely. http://www.pe.com/local-news/riversi...an-ignite.ece#

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I was reading on another site that schumacher havent kept their old moulds and tooling, and a re release would be expensive to produce. Im not sure how true that is though.
I do think they would sell a lot if they did produce them.
Considering CML could only have a couple of hundred RC10 Classic kits, there are still plenty available in UK shops, such a big seller that they have been reduced in price and DMS are giving free bodies with them to try and shift them.

As well as the publicity from the Classic, Associated has done it to retool the spares, there are still plenty of original RC10s being run and several parts have never gone out of production, for example the only time the Protech body was out of production was when it had to be retooled when the vac forming shifted to Taiwan.

Schumacher doesn't have a huge fan following outside of the UK so unless someone can come up with a way for Schumacher to make a profit from selling at most just a few hundred vintage buggies it isn't going to happen.

It's like when it was announced that Horizon Hobby UK wasn't going to import any more XX4 rereleases and everyone complained about stopping a popular kit, when it was revealed in reality they had only sold 4 kits.
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I would imagine or hope to see an RC10T at some time, it would be the next logical step from what work they have already done. AE/TT had to start from scratch with the Re-Re, as they had no moulds or tooling from the original and this must be applauded.
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I'm pretty sure Associated claimed for years an RC10 re-re was impossible so I'd take that with a pinch of salt. I think they claimed lack of the old tooling too.
If you want to know the truth, they had all the old moulds but to make the new parts look consistent they retooled them all. They had to borrow a new built kit from Don Natalie in their customer services department to be able to measure off actual parts to check the new parts would fit the old cars.

An interview with Tim Tunnermann who actually designed the rerelease cars was in RC Car Action.

Roger Curtis, when interviewed at the RCX show when the Classic was first shown did say that if he was still in charge they wouldn't have made the rerelease as he didn't understand the hype for it.
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