TLR 22-4 MODS

[stegger]

Haven't run my 22-4 yet (work ) But have noticed and heard people using a wider rear end with parts from the 22 2.0
What parts are required to do this ?
Also why are people going over to a shorty cell on the left ? Is this just for a better weight distribution ?
Any other MODS people are doing ?

[danDanEFC]

Oi just turn up and run it, you dirty red!

Even I ran 4wd today.

[stegger]

Just haven't had time Aide, last time I raced out doors was the Easter Egg race !!!!! If I had my own company then I could slope off

[danDanEFC]

Originally Posted by stegger

If I had my own company then I could slope off

I would recommend getting your own company there dead boss!

[fletcher]

Main issue is the 22-4's weight. Its a heavy car and we found running it with the shorty packs really livened the car up. The 22 2.0 rear end helped with stability, one thing we found was difficult to stop was the rear end dumping under load which this helped stop. Also finally moving the rear shocks to infront of the tower made a big difference. To do this all you need to do is swap the rear wishbones around and mount the shocks on the front. On a quick not you need to space the drive shafts when running the 2wd rear end. Oh it also gives you more droop ��
hth!

[stegger]

Hi Fletch
So do I just need 2.0 rear hubs and drive shafts then ?

[fletcher]

That's correct mate. Plus about 1.6mm in driveshaft spacers. I'm running 1.0mm on mine but its close to popping a shaft so ill be adding some more before the car goes back on track. I had 2.0mm on my previous (stolen) 22-4 and it was ok but made the hex a little tight against the bearing

[JohnM]

If you use the std width alloy hex for the 22 it stops the bearing binding up.

[stegger]

Originally Posted by JohnM

If you use the std width alloy hex for the 22 it stops the bearing binding up.

Off the 22 2.0 or the 22-4 John ?

[JohnM]

Off the 22/22 2.0, I think the std width 22-4 ones are wider and put the car over the limit.

The alloy hexes have a little step built in that stops it binding on the bearing, so your able to tighten your wheels fully.

[luke]

I'm running saddles with just +1.5mm rear hubs, what benifits does the moving the rear shocks to the front give? Many of you running the modified rear camber links o
Allowing a lower position?

[luke]

What benifits does moving the rear shocks to the front side of the wishbone?

Has anyone fitted a modified rear camber bracket allowing the ball to be lowerd a hole down where did you get one and what benefits does it have?

What benafits are there to fitting g the 22 rear hubs and wishbones

Intrested to know What you guys think to these mods and what affects did it have to the buggy?

Are there any other mods??

[MaxBaker]

Originally Posted by luke

What benifits does moving the rear shocks to the front side of the wishbone?

Has anyone fitted a modified rear camber bracket allowing the ball to be lowerd a hole down where did you get one and what benefits does it have?

What benafits are there to fitting g the 22 rear hubs and wishbones

Intrested to know What you guys think to these mods and what affects did it have to the buggy?

Are there any other mods??

+1 on rear forward shocks. Would like to know benefits

[JohnM]

Try it, it costs nothing to do I don't think I know of anyone whose tried it & gone back to having them on the rear.

Simply, it puts the weight more forward, frees up the rear end & makes it drive like a normal car.

[jcb]

Originally Posted by luke

What benifits does moving the rear shocks to the front side of the wishbone?

Originally Posted by MaxBaker

+1 on rear forward shocks. Would like to know benefits

I don't own a 22-4, but have done a similar modification on my 22 2.0. Without doing any other set-up changes it feels like it stiffens the rear end up a little, less on power understeer and a more consistent feeling between entry, middle and exiting a turn.
However I do prefer the kit position when the track is slippery and or bumpy.

[luke]

Brilliant cheers guys just need info on the other mods now

[simonrhart]

Originally Posted by MaxBaker

+1 on rear forward shocks. Would like to know benefits

As others has said, it allows the car to slide around the corner more instead of digging in and grip rolling. I certainly will not be going back to the kit settings. Combine this with the sway bars and it takes away the grip roll completely.

Simon

[simonrhart]

Originally Posted by MaxBaker

+1 on rear forward shocks. Would like to know benefits

The 22 rear hubs makes the car wider, known as increasing the track. So in theory giving the car more understeer thus making it less twitchy. I am running stock hubs on mine so I don't know what it's like with the 22 hubs. That said, I have got it where I want it with regards to the twitchiness. The kit setup is un-driveable but that "go kart" feel can be fixed with setup and not necessarily buying 22 hubs.

Simon

[MaxBaker]

Originally Posted by simonrhart

The 22 rear hubs makes the car wider, known as increasing the track. So in theory giving the car more understeer thus making it less twitchy. I am running stock hubs on mine so I don't know what it's like with the 22 hubs. That said, I have got it where I want it with regards to the twitchiness. The kit setup is un-driveable but that "go kart" feel can be fixed with setup and not necessarily buying 22 hubs.

Simon

I've done the Hub Conversion i wanted to know what the benefits of the shocks in the forward position was. Tbh the car is how i like so probably wont change the shock position unless it really is a big benefit

[JohnM]

Originally Posted by MaxBaker

I've done the Hub Conversion i wanted to know what the benefits of the shocks in the forward position was. Tbh the car is how i like so probably wont change the shock position unless it really is a big benefit

I'd say shocks forward was a bigger and better change then the 2wd rear end, esp as its free to do, only takes 5 mins to do.

On a side note, anyone got a centre diff yet, and what do you think of it?