My new S2... - Page 3

Thomas P · #41 07-04-2008

Cant mount the rear shocks at all...the upper adj turnb will BIND the shock and arm..i tested a shim app 3 mm, way to short, still binding heavy..i think il need much longer stuff, but that means buying some stuff over this kit..looked att Matts S2 and i ca see some blue stuff that will put the ballend longer away form the tower...

mja, dont know now about this...

Thomas P · #42 07-04-2008

Tried to skip my Lunsford mounts, but still no good..i need some serious long ballstuds on the tower to get the rear upp arm more 90 degres toward tower..like it is now, i will destroy my shocks and the car wont run a meter...

Thomas P · #43 07-04-2008

Even mowed the ballstuds to the inner hole, it turned out to be better, IF i using the 4 mm shim on ball stud..the problem is on the Slipper side, the ballend cant "come on the stud", to narrow to the motor mount plate.. (if i use the puter hole, will "bind" the arm when it touches the damper..

Maybe im doing everything wrong, but im kind of handy

..right now, i wont finsih this car, thats for sure :S

Mike Hudson · #44 07-04-2008

put a pic up of the shocks fitted, might give an insight to us

sparrow.2 · #45 07-04-2008

Here is a thread with some pics from elvos car from the euro indoor race in Lahon.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...ht=euro+indoor

Looks like he turned the shock bushings around and used thin nuts on the end towards the tower. On top of that he's got spacers on the ball end in the tower and some at the bottom of the shocks.

Maybe you won't be able to use the Lunsford parts...

Car looks great

Edit: A quick and ugly fix would be to space the shock tower further back... Ugly but works...

elvo · #46 07-04-2008

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Originally Posted by sparrow.2

Here is a thread with some pics from elvos car from the euro indoor race in Lahon.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...ht=euro+indoor

Looks like he turned the shock bushings around and used thin nuts on the end towards the tower. On top of that he's got spacers on the ball end in the tower and some at the bottom of the shocks.

Yes, I've put a 3mm blue washer behind the inner ball stud and the tower, and the hubs,... ... might be reversed. Can't remember off the top of my head, but anyway, on my car it's the same as in the CAD drawings - which should, ideally, be in the online manual Jonathan is editing. oh - and be sure to use a tall (high) ballstud on the tower, and a short neck (the black one that is in the hubs on a STD B4) on the hubs for max clearance.

Shock bushings are also the other way around from 'normal'. Blue spacers on the bottom of the shocks are optional, you only really need these if you're using AE shocks and you tighten the hell out of the top shock bushing like me.

Thomas P · #47 07-04-2008

turnbuckles go thru spring, and touches the house of the damper when it goes up (compressed)

Dremeld down the losi bushings for the shocks so the Lunsford works, it is real "tiny" against the tower..

Spacer on the Arm, to get the shock further away from T-buckle..and only running ap 3mm spacer on the ballstud, longer and i cant use it on the inner hole..it will be worse if i use the outer hole... the angle will be "harder"

app 12-15mm ballstud would do the trick. but the longest i can found is 3/8 (10.X mm but then i cant use the inner hole on the Tower...

How about flipp the rear arms, are the wheelbase getting real of then?

Edit

I have dismounted the Lunsford, and mounted the Losi shocl"bushings" on the bolddirekt against the tower, and STILL no good..it will still Bind up..

To flip the rear arms like the S4, will solve the problem , but as i think, the handling will be very diffrent?..however, i dont think i will move on untill a solution is here..to bad, i luv the car,the quality everything, but a thing like this can get me to se Red.

if ya have a good soloution on this one, let me konw.

/Thomas P

SHY · #48 07-04-2008

Try to take away the Lunsford mounts and place the top of the shock closer to the tower... the body of the shock is under the tower right?

Edit: I see you beat me to it

It now looks as shimming back the whole tower is the solution. At least that would be a solid solution. Shimming the camber link would be risky...

What you also could try is to interchange the left and rear hub, and mount the camber links on the other side. It will be at a slight angle though but not that much I think... (the rear arms are also angled/toed)

What does the manual say about the hubs?

Lee · #49 07-04-2008

Have you tried flipping the rear hubs left to right and mounting the camber link on the other side of it

Mike Hudson · #50 07-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Lee

Have you tried flipping the rear hubs left to right and mounting the camber link on the other side of it

Thats whats done on the X6

if it doesn't work would rayspeed hubs help?

Thomas P · #51 07-04-2008

Well i have to PM Jonathan on AC on this one..

Thomas P · #52 07-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Lee

Have you tried flipping the rear hubs left to right and mounting the camber link on the other side of it

What affect have this on the cars handling ?

Thomas P · #53 07-04-2008

Is this the way the car should be built in? However, now it works, but it feels "wrong".

How does it affect on the cars handling to flip the rear hubs and then mount the C-linf on the other side?

elvo · #54 07-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Thomas P

What affect have this on the cars handling ?

Nothing.

It gives way more space for the shocks, but you can't use hole 'C' in the hub. Then you'd need the tall ballstud in the hub and the black one on the tower.

SHY · #55 07-04-2008

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Originally Posted by elvo

Nothing.

It gives way more space for the shocks, but you can't use hole 'C' in the hub. Then you'd need the tall ballstud in the hub and the black one on the tower.

That's quite an angle. But don't worry! Dr. Elvo is ALWAYS right... it's almost a bit annoying

Elvo, how about mounting the shocks upside down? Might give some more space... and a much lower COG! PLUS, the shafts would be better protected from dust...

elvo · #56 07-04-2008

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Originally Posted by SHY

Elvo, how about mounting the shocks upside down? Might give some more space... and a much lower COG! PLUS, the shafts would be better protected from dust...

Doesn't work well with emulsion shocks