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Just put a fresh set of minipins on what you're running now

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I do love the support of this car!

Fresh set of mini pins on the set up you got now dose not help others that don't know what set up he's running!

I have used my car once indoors and it was great till the shocks started leaking

To be honest these sort of posts don't fill me with confidence

Info is scarce on this car and for a less then average club driver that needs all the info possible this post is pushing me back to yokomo
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My final setup for last weekend.
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...int=file%2cpdf

White car second on the grid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EWK714oKFD4
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Just put a fresh set of minipins on what you've running now
Works for me Rich.
Don't worry Leeboy, I was racing with Rich yesterday so he knows exactly what's on my car as he's been Woking with me on it. Tbh the support has been brilliant. Rich is a great bloke and always more than willing to help. I couldn't be happier.
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Leeboy44. Pm me your email so I can send u my setup from yesterday buddy. Have a look. See what you think. If I knew how, I'd post it up here. Maybe someone knows how.
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I do love the support of this car!

Fresh set of mini pins on the set up you got now dose not help others that don't know what set up he's running!

I have used my car once indoors and it was great till the shocks started leaking

To be honest these sort of posts don't fill me with confidence

Info is scarce on this car and for a less then average club driver that needs all the info possible this post is pushing me back to yokomo
Here you go - link to the setups thread, I'm currently running as per the Chadderton R1 setup, Simon's car is very similar

I was responding to the first post directly, if you need any help/advise feel free to fire over a PM

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Old 12-11-2014
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I noticed Ty has posted a carpet setup, although I'm really not sure what use it is since he's using an Avid chassis of unknown dimensions. Two things occurred to me tho:

http://www.tytessman.com/setups/d413-setups.php

1) Only 50k in the centre?
2) Still appears to be running lots of droop

I ran my car on astro for the first time a couple of weeks back (Yatabe Arena) and it was a bloody handful! Super edgy and very unforgiving to drive. Tried a lot of things to try and tame it down, but ran out of time in the end and left not happy with the car.
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First drive e with the buggy tonight, what a handful it was. Very edgy.
Small track with tight sharp turns. Carpet + slicks with additive.
Esc in the front as well as rx
Shorty

Previous owners setup.
Black arb f+r
F 4x1.3 700 gold
R 4x1.4 350 yellow
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6.5 motor with 23 pinion too much so I'll look at a lower T motor as well.

On power the arse wants to overtake the front and the front hooks on the way out not helping this.
I haven't gotten to terms with all the toe and kick up etc so I'll get back once it's written down.
Any suggestions from what's given?
Thanks

ScottyP what does your setup look like?
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Front springs probably too soft, which won't help - HB Reds are the stiffest HB. I know some people are running Losi or AE springs (Durango don't fit, too small diameter).

You could also try:

Heavier diff oil front and centre (a lot of the setups on astro in uk are using 300k in the centre and either 10k or 15k up front. Kit setup is 10-100-10).

Shocks mounted Outer hole on front and rear wishbones.

Limit droop; some of Rich Lowes latest setups have 5-6mm of limiting spacers

Reduce front tyre (in your slicks+additive setup, try reducing additive on front?)

Looking forward to your feedback!
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Thanks, Ive had those thoughts as well, Ill be looking at AE purple front and should I go down in the rear or just up in the front?
Center diff Ill look at going up as well
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Front springs probably too soft, which won't help - HB Reds are the stiffest HB. I know some people are running Losi or AE springs (Durango don't fit, too small diameter).

You could also try:

Heavier diff oil front and centre (a lot of the setups on astro in uk are using 300k in the centre and either 10k or 15k up front. Kit setup is 10-100-10).

Shocks mounted Outer hole on front and rear wishbones.

Limit droop; some of Rich Lowes latest setups have 5-6mm of limiting spacers

Reduce front tyre (in your slicks+additive setup, try reducing additive on front?)

Looking forward to your feedback!

I tried all of these things and gains were minimal to nil. Harder springs, less droop, outside hole of rear arm, trimmed min pin fronts, 15k / 100k / 7k etc. I didn't get chance to try 300k centre, which I thought might have been a main issue. But then I see Ty running 50k. This car is a bit of a mystery on astro / carpet I feel! Perhaps unsurprising given that none of its development (to my knowledge) was on anything other than dirt / clay.
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I felt the same, but I didn't spend loads of time on it before I sold it, I would of tried the avid alloy chassis if I still had the car.

Rich lowe was a great help very friendly and things he said helped but nothing to what my old car used to go like,

I sold the car with 10k 300k and 7k init I think and that helped on carpet better then 100k in the centre

Another guy in our club is having some success with his but running mini spike tyres, he did try a set of mini pins and was loads slower and the car felt awful, I never tried mini spikes so I can't really comment
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Carpet setup from Maritime uploaded to the team setup's thread

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...71&postcount=2
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MIne is still defintely a work in progress, im struggling with on power oversteer still.
Im redoing the shocks with some other pistons, going to try 3x1,4 and 3x1,3, hopefully this will help.

Might try the 4 hole ones again later

Q, rather than putting 1mm on the axel to add to the width why not just add an extra 1mm on the inside by the RF and RR holders?
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Q, rather than putting 1mm on the axel to add to the width why not just add an extra 1mm on the inside by the RF and RR holders?
It makes the inner pivot wider which isn't desirable as it's already on the wider end of the scale
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