brca list released for batterys

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by Col

With ROAR and EFRA running different rules though, you never know. After all, remember last year when it was decided that Intelect cells had crept over the maximum size? And that was a std size across the world...
All I'm saying is there is no guarantee

The difference in that case is that the cells were oversize compared to the standard ISO specification of the cells, but we had a loophole in the regulations that allowed the cells to be an extra 1mm to allow for cell expansion in use. Intellect just built cells that used the loophole to make the cells oversize, so they were legal even though they didn't fit the spirit of the rules. That loophole doesn't exist now as the rules have been changed to the ISO standard and cells aren't allowed to be any bigger. A nice easy way to get rid of the dodgy cells.

Now any manufacturer has a much more detailed specification to follow for lipos, including what tests they will be subjected to. It's pointless 20 companies sending in packs if they know they are going to fail the tests they have built the packs around. There will be plenty of choice for the next season.

[David Church]

Originally Posted by Col

Just because they are submitted does not mean they will be accecpted. You never know, there may still be no legal lipo's for 09 then your public relations skills will be put to use!!

Col, you are right to wonder how many if any lipo's will be legal. We seem to have gone through this sort of thing the last few years, and everytime ended up with plenty of cells to choose from. The BRCA have a system, some may think it's not right or fair, But I think the BRCA do a great job and have the racers best inerest at heart, and I am sure there will be plenty of lipo's to choose from as Mike has said below, the cell manufacture's will not want to miss out on sales for being 1mm oversize. Not much longer to wait and then this debate will be a distant memory!!!!
DC

Originally Posted by Mike Hudson

haha I think most can be sure that lipo will be legal though... the manufacturers who have submitted lipos surely wouldn't be stupid enough to not make them to the brca specs and lose out on the huge rush for lipo when the legal list is it out and almost everyone wants them

[Col]

Originally Posted by David Church

Not much longer to wait and then this debate will be a distant memory!!!!
DC

Thank God for that!!

[PaulUpton]

Although this is for the TC section maybe the off road should adopt the same rule! This is for the LiPo list!!

IMPORTANT: The TC section committee has agreed that the 2008 list will be grandfathered into the 2009 rules, allowing all cells on the 2008 list to be used at BRCA sanctioned events so protecting the investment made by those drivers who bought cells in 2008.

from centralbooking.org

[DCM]

strewth, this is dragging on now, come on BRCA... LIPO LIST!!!

[DaveG28]

From the saddle side not how much difference it makes publishing yet, have any new Saddles come in to any shops yet anyway?

[Kecky]

This has dragged on so long now i've forgotten if we are still waiting on confirmation of stick packs aswell are we? or is there a list somewhere

[Bungleaio]

We are still waiting for lists for lipo

[ryan_93]

there is a list posted today but only 1 battery on it so far

http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...20V1%20pdf.pdf

[Chris Doughty]

Originally Posted by ryan_93

there is a list posted today but only 1 battery on it so far

http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...20V1%20pdf.pdf

1S ? as in 3.7v.... whats the use of that?

[tyreman]

Originally Posted by Kecky

This has dragged on so long now i've forgotten if we are still waiting on confirmation of stick packs aswell are we? or is there a list somewhere

Why has it been dragging on, the cut off date was 31st January
It hasn't been 3 weeks yet, in previous years it's always been 4-5 weeks after the cut off date before we see a legal list.

There's still at least 6 weeks to go before a BRCA sanctioned off road meeting, and nearly 3 months until the first national.

[Cockerill]

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net

1S ? as in 3.7v.... whats the use of that?

Exactly what I was thinking

Looks like were still waiting for the 'proper' lipo list, hopefully not long now

[DaveG28]

Originally Posted by ryan_93

there is a list posted today but only 1 battery on it so far

http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...20V1%20pdf.pdf

And it's a 1 cell 3.7 volt one!

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net

1S ? as in 3.7v.... whats the use of that?

12th scale are using them in the States and I fancy one & 13.5bl for the CARS/AMC Summer Shoot Out III 2009

[RogerM]

I have to agree with Brian, where's the fire??? If your that woried about getting used to LiPos then take an educated guess as to which packs might be legal and go for them. I'd be thinking major name, large UK distributor, sealed case, inside the stated sizes .... probalby a better than 90% chance that is all these points are met it'll be on the list!!!

If it's set-up time your concerned about then run cells again this year, simple as that, you won't be the only ones!

Paul and crew give up a huge amount of time purely so that you can have fun at the weekends!!! Have a bit of gratitude for their efforts rather than moaning about how long things take to do, maybe even ask them if you can help in some way!

The links below show they are working on it ....

http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...%20pdf%201.pdf

http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...%20pdf%201.pdf

(£100 a pack .... jeepers!)

These work out about £30 a pack and for most people will be fine http://www.vapextech.co.uk/acatalog/info_73.html

[JCJC]

Originally Posted by RogerM

If your that woried about getting used to LiPos then take an educated guess as to which packs might be legal and go for them. I'd be thinking major name, large UK distributor, sealed case, inside the stated sizes .... probalby a better than 90% chance that is all these points are met it'll be on the list!!!

Not to sure re this advice, think the approved packs may be stickered up, and the sticker will be part of the approval. Bet a pile of batteries & a pile of stickers are just waiting to be introduced to each other, roll on the 2s list and lets hope thats an "un frozen" list like the 1s.

[sly]

Originally Posted by RogerM

The links below show they are working on it ....

http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...%20pdf%201.pdf

http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...%20pdf%201.pdf

(£100 a pack .... jeepers!)

These work out about £30 a pack and for most people will be fine http://www.vapextech.co.uk/acatalog/info_73.html

Good link RogerM.

The first link show me that have bent/moved the rules to suit fitment of the cell within the 12thscale class.

What not to say they will bend/move the rules on the inconsequential extra 1mm on the saddle packs that are over sized for 1year?

[MattW]

sly, i'm thinking the fact that they have gone into print and stated the 1S ruling/modification, but not mentioned anything about a saddle pack ruling might give it away??? Let's remember that there wasn't a spec written down for a 1S "pack" in the first place.

Don't feel comfortable with the size of the price increase i must say.

[RogerM]

The change to the 1S rules seems to be so that they fit into the relevent cars without modifications ..... changing the rules for the 2S saddles would mean that several chassis WOULD need modifications ...... no matter how simple a mod it is somebody will kick up a fuss to a model shop owner because they have sold them packs "not fit for purpose".

[DCM]

I understand the 'cut off' for cell submission, so we all have one list to work from, for one year, but it isn't working well.

If it is a saddle cell, then 1S is correct, as when you got a pair of saddles, you are then at 2S.....