Go Back   oOple.com Forums > General > Vintage RC

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25-10-2012
450kid's Avatar
450kid 450kid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 217
Default difference between zx and zx-r?

As above what's different and which is best as a racer
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25-10-2012
sheriff sheriff is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 68
Default

Good question, I'd like to know this too.

I know the shock mounts are differents, and the ZX-R uses medium length gold shocks on the front (ZX uses short). And obviously the body on the 'R' is much better looking.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 25-10-2012
Crashtest33 Crashtest33 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Royston, Herts, UK
Posts: 396
Default

Differences are:
Shock towers
Drivetrain
Top deck
Shocks
Diffs
Driveshafts
Wheels n tyres
Bodyshell & wing

Shock towers:
Shorter front tower on the ZX
Narrower rear tower on the ZX

Drivetrain
The ZX uses a diff integrated into the spur gear with a trust bearing in seperating the drive pulleys

Top deck:
ZX uses a two piece top deck seperated by a belt cowling.

Shocks:
Short front on the ZX

Diffs:
Gear diffs on the ZX (used on the ZX-Sport also)

Driveshafts:
Universal swingshafts all round on the ZX-R. Dogbone on the ZX rear.

Wheels n tyres:
Standard dish 2.2 on the ZX-R. Optima/Maxxum 2.0's on the ZX
Mini-pin equivilent tyres on the ZX-R. Full spikes on the ZX

Main performance difference though is the main drive shaft assembly

Regards
Nick
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25-10-2012
kek23k kek23k is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 347
Default

The wishbones are also different, the ZXR had some material removed from them to lighten them up a bit I think.

The wing mount also changed, on the ZXR it's mounted to the shock tower.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 25-10-2012
Crashtest33 Crashtest33 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Royston, Herts, UK
Posts: 396
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kek23k View Post
The wishbones are also different, the ZXR had some material removed from them to lighten them up a bit I think.

The wing mount also changed, on the ZXR it's mounted to the shock tower.
Good work, forgot about the wing stay!
Just had a look at my Lazers and I can't see a difference in the wishbones. Same part number in the manuals too.
Got some 'option' ones in a packet with 'graphite' written on them. Dunno if that's a reference to the colour or what.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 25-10-2012
450kid's Avatar
450kid 450kid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 217
Default

Cheers lads ,just got one on it's way to race in stock class still waiting for my mate to get his but should be a good laugh .can't wait to use it see if I can give the new cars a good run!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 26-10-2012
DanB4's Avatar
DanB4 DanB4 is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Muscat, Oman
Posts: 1,564
Default

I've got a basically new Lazer ZX roller I'm about to eBay....comes with clear original shell and is in shelf queen condition. If anyone's after one?
__________________
Much-More Racing (UK)
www.muchmoreracing.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 26-10-2012
Welshy40's Avatar
Welshy40 Welshy40 is offline
Spends too long on oOple ...
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: .
Posts: 4,772
Default

Zxr had an angled steering plate, and zx was straight and in my opinion the better version.
__________________
www.kamtec.co.uk
www.fibre-lyte.co.uk
answer-rc.com/uk/en/
Answer UK team driver
Designer of the Lazer ZX/ZXR carbon fibre tub chassis
Designer of the Lazer ZXRS
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 26-10-2012
lllyf lllyf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 149
Default

kyosho have some late version zx before zxr released,come with zxr wheels and tires、angle steering plate、plastic steering knuckle arm.I found series kits appear in japan
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 26-10-2012
Welshy40's Avatar
Welshy40 Welshy40 is offline
Spends too long on oOple ...
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: .
Posts: 4,772
Default

Yup, you tended to see the kits at the end of the production run with upgrades, then the next version appeared in the shops.
__________________
www.kamtec.co.uk
www.fibre-lyte.co.uk
answer-rc.com/uk/en/
Answer UK team driver
Designer of the Lazer ZX/ZXR carbon fibre tub chassis
Designer of the Lazer ZXRS
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 26-10-2012
lllyf lllyf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 149
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Welshy40 View Post
Yup, you tended to see the kits at the end of the production run with upgrades, then the next version appeared in the shops.
Some kits from the store in japenese market,I think some HongKong collectors bought them already.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 26-10-2012
DanB4's Avatar
DanB4 DanB4 is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Muscat, Oman
Posts: 1,564
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lllyf View Post
Some kits from the store in japenese market,I think some HongKong collectors bought them already.
I'd love to see a pic of that market/store!
__________________
Much-More Racing (UK)
www.muchmoreracing.com
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 26-10-2012
lllyf lllyf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 149
Default

In japan yahoo, one seller puted 3 boxes zx kits couple months ago, before that I already saw the different kit in one collector.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 26-10-2012
lllyf lllyf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 149
Default

the first time I saw the kit I think it may be wrong,I took some pictures and post at rc10 talk
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.ph...+version+lazer

I saw some runner have the same thing but really don't know may be the owner make the changes.until I saw three nib kits appear, not only one of these, no one want to change several kits parts.but the kit of my friend has been gone.just left these pictures,the original pack never been open just like that.may be I was wrong but this really exist
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 26-10-2012
DanB4's Avatar
DanB4 DanB4 is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Muscat, Oman
Posts: 1,564
Default

Just compared my 2 ZX's......I haven't owned since new.

One has same wishbones as the ZXR and also a ZXR wing mount.....are these representative of the later ZX kits mentioned above or a user mod?

The one with wheels has different wishbones and the same wing mount as used on the Optima Mids.

Pics:


__________________
Much-More Racing (UK)
www.muchmoreracing.com
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 26-10-2012
HKS_TRD's Avatar
HKS_TRD HKS_TRD is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Australia
Posts: 893
Default

I'd say they are user mods, have you got a pic of the rear shock tower on the one with the ZX-R wing mount
__________________
___________________
Maxxum FF
Ultima Pro
Turbo Optima Mid SE
Turbo Optima Mid SP
Optima Mid Custom Special
Lazer ZX
Lazer ZX-R
Lazer ZX-S
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 26-10-2012
DanB4's Avatar
DanB4 DanB4 is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Muscat, Oman
Posts: 1,564
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HKS_TRD View Post
I'd say they are user mods, have you got a pic of the rear shock tower on the one with the ZX-R wing mount
Will take one shortly when kids are in bed
__________________
Much-More Racing (UK)
www.muchmoreracing.com
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 26-10-2012
450kid's Avatar
450kid 450kid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 217
Default

They both look tidy
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 26-10-2012
DanB4's Avatar
DanB4 DanB4 is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Muscat, Oman
Posts: 1,564
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HKS_TRD View Post
I'd say they are user mods, have you got a pic of the rear shock tower on the one with the ZX-R wing mount


I have the second wing level but haven't fitted it
__________________
Much-More Racing (UK)
www.muchmoreracing.com
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 26-10-2012
kek23k kek23k is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 347
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crashtest33 View Post
Good work, forgot about the wing stay!
Just had a look at my Lazers and I can't see a difference in the wishbones. Same part number in the manuals too.
Got some 'option' ones in a packet with 'graphite' written on them. Dunno if that's a reference to the colour or what.
No worries, glad I could help.



On the left are the ZX wishbones, you can see there is more material on them between the 'holes'. The ZXR ones are on the right, I think there were also some later ZXR wishbones made out of a graphite material, they look the same as the ZXR wishbones but they are a bit lighter...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
oOple.com