Racing Sunday 29th November 2009 - Page 2

mikeyscott · #21 22-11-2009

What I'll do tomorrow is create a poll in the main Titchfield section and we can see what vote we get.

Shame our software doesn't record Personal Bests

Randall34 · #22 23-11-2009

The issue that i have is that you are then just racing the track and your previous times, you aren't racing anyone else. You maybe leading a battle with someone on track but after adjusted time you maybe below them or vice versa. Also if someone has a really good race in a dry round 1 but is terrible in the rest because it rained (and couldn't adapt) then he will always start at the front.
So all that considered, staggered starts are good (Le Mans style) when the start order is the previous race result.
After all it is racing-
Having said that we could run legged finals (like nationals) with 3 qualifying rounds (staggered) with FTD sorted into finals, then a 3 leg final (grid) best 2 finishes out of 3 count. Best of both worlds and with PTs it easy to run.

Matt-h · #23 23-11-2009

For me, qualifying staggered in order of FTD and then 2 finals.

Finals to be grid start and best result over 2 rounds.

This then means your not racing each other in the the qualys - just the clock - and can hit pbs/track records easier.

I'm only going for this as its what i'm used to and this is the format for nationals and touring cars.

Also a bit of a break before finals would be good.

The loop a little down the straight would be good, however people still need to be able to stop under the rostrum after their run to avoid holding someone up on a hot lap.

In the 2 meetings i have atttended TORCH i have really enjoyed the friendly atmosphere.

Looking forward to the next one.

mikeyscott · #24 23-11-2009

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Originally Posted by Matt-h

For me, qualifying staggered in order of FTD and then 2 finals.

Finals to be grid start and best result over 2 rounds.

This then means your not racing each other in the the qualys - just the clock - and can hit pbs/track records easier.

I'm only going for this as its what i'm used to and this is the format for nationals and touring cars.

Also a bit of a break before finals would be good.

The loop a little down the straight would be good, however people still need to be able to stop under the rostrum after their run to avoid holding someone up on a hot lap.

In the 2 meetings i have atttended TORCH i have really enjoyed the friendly atmosphere.

Looking forward to the next one.

Quite like the sound of this one.

Loop down the straight because?

Matt-h · #25 23-11-2009

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Originally Posted by mikeyscott

Quite like the sound of this one.

Loop down the straight because?

Because i love nailing a 6.5!

Also, its a concern that the loop hangs out of the astro turf on a corner.
Possible to catch it if you run wide = potentially expensive

mikeyscott · #26 23-11-2009

Just need some extra astro turf to cover the rest of the wires.

Where abouts on the straight are you thinking?

Matt-h · #27 23-11-2009

only about 6-8 feet further down, would give more room for the start of qualy.
tbh its not really an issue once the astro turf is covering the loop.

Randall34 · #28 23-11-2009

Here here, staggered qualies followed by 2 finals, combined results tho maybe?

Loop on the other side of race control, gives a bit more of a flying start and room to launch.

mikeyscott · #29 23-11-2009

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Originally Posted by Randall34

Here here, staggered qualies followed by 2 finals, combined results tho maybe?

Loop on the other side of race control, gives a bit more of a flying start and room to launch.

I was going to suggest the staggered start a bit further back as we are going to redo the area around the race hut to help with drainage.

mikeyscott · #30 23-11-2009

I think we should deal with the loop position after some needed track work. Get the track sorted again and then go from there.

SteveB · #31 23-11-2009

Great, the idea's are flowing

The best way will be to explain the options and vote trackside on the day, this Sunday when the Sun is shining and a bone dry track "would'nt it be great"

Neil and Matt both perfect solutions but 2 leg finals would be probably simplier to do on a AM meeting.

mikeyscott · #32 23-11-2009

I have looked at the options again and I'm thinking the random staggered start with a 2 leg final.

Dave, what's your thoughts re the two leg finals?

Obviously numbers also determine what we do. I.e. last weekend I opted to run mixed class. Ideally we'd run 2WD and 4WD seperately

super gripper · #33 23-11-2009

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Originally Posted by mikeyscott

I have looked at the options again and I'm thinking the random staggered start with a 2 leg final.

Dave, what's your thoughts re the two leg finals?

Obviously numbers also determine what we do. I.e. last weekend I opted to run mixed class. Ideally we'd run 2WD and 4WD seperately

two leg finals, no no no.................. not good. which option from the aboves is this one Mike?

4 or 5 rounds and a final, starting every time where/which position you finish...........which ones that?

I will of course run what ever but this one is my choice........

staggered start = pile ups and crashes............

and 2WD and 4WD should always be run seperately.

AlisdairO · #34 24-11-2009

I don't really mind what order we go in from the start. I'm with Dave on preferring grid starts for most of the races - it just makes it more exciting. Not going to cry if it doesn't happen, though

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On the mixed 2wd/4wd or not, I tend to prefer separate 2wd and 4wd in the winter, when it's really uneven, but we could consider mixing it up in the summer when there's not such a difference in performance?

edit: I won't be able to make it this sunday. Yet another wedding to go to :/

mikeyscott · #35 24-11-2009

I would only run mixed class when numbers are low. Eg last weekend when we had 6 2wd and 4 4wd

AlisdairO · #36 24-11-2009

I think that'll work when we've got mostly experienced racers coming along, but it makes sense to have races grouped by ability when we have a few newer drivers around - (a) it allows them all to be in the same heat, (b) they're in with a group they are at least a bit more competitive with, and (c) it reduces issues between more competitive drivers and the newer ones when the inevitable collisions occur.

mikeyscott · #37 24-11-2009

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Originally Posted by super gripper

staggered start = pile ups and crashes............

Don't you mean less crashes?

Matt-h · #38 24-11-2009

Are people confusing grid start and staagered start?

I thought it was like this;

grid start - line up on the grid in qualifying results position. all leave on the 'warble' together.
Staggered - leave when indidual number is called

maybe i am confusing myself here

mikeyscott · #39 24-11-2009

4 or 5 staggered heats and then finals is what I'd like.

As for the format of the staggered start I like the FTQ and random options

David Church · #40 24-11-2009

Nathan Ralls and Myself will be coming to race this Sunday

And Nathan's little girl is going to race as well, so you will have 3 more, Me and Nathan will run 4wd and Emma will run 2wd.
Nathan is a top Schumacher driver, and I am not a top Schumacher driver, Lol, but we will be happy to help out in any way we can.
I am looking forward to coming back to this club!!!

What tyres do you guys run?