New forum disscussion track improvements.

[birdy]

Originally Posted by losichris

Seeing as were running off a genny, why not do race control outside.
If it looks like rain, small gazebo?

Not going to happen, thats taking two steps back not forward.

A few of us have ideas for the top of the rostrum.

[budfish]

I'm sure you'll get it sorted it seems like we are singing off the same hymn sheet

[ryanlownie]

Sorry but without reading too much into it, a roofed rostrum will surely attract more of the kids off the estate and turn it into more of a "dos house" or place to trash?

1. Do it and risk it..
2. Go the extent of making it more secure (e.g. a gate, door) (more expense)...

[budfish]

[JonyNitro]

What the hell is that in his hand, gay boy

[losichris]

Originally Posted by budfish

Can you edit that and do a comedy drawing of Si

[budfish]

Non of the drawings have been done by me all johnnys work but he says he can't upload pics

[Gavin Collingwood]

Originally Posted by Ry @ JE Models

Sorry but without reading too much into it, a roofed rostrum will surely attract more of the kids off the estate and turn it into more of a "dos house" or place to trash?

1. Do it and risk it..
2. Go the extent of making it more secure (e.g. a gate, door) (more expense)...

Why can't we build a rostrum roof with a locked door at the top to enter it? Surely it wouldn't be do hard to do?

[Gavin Collingwood]

And why is a two tier ROSTRUM necessary bud? A roof is more needed. So what if we need to shift a few bottles and cans? I'd take that over getting blown all over and piss wet through anyday! They're just kids after all. Nothing to worry about. They play on the track.... So what what harm do they actually do? If rather be sheltered if I'm honest

[budfish]

I'm not into the 2 tier rostrum johnnys drawing. A roof will have to be made of metal and would cost a fortune. You do know that skin is water proof?

[sticky]

Poll is biased to leading questions, e.g. doesn't allow several choices....

[budfish]

Biased?? So is a general election biased because you can only pick one

[Si Coe]

Leading and closed questions do not promote discussion - sorry teacher mode there.

The problem we had with the roof at the old track was that it meant the rostrum was being used as a drinking den and they then flung the bottles off. That meant we frequently arrived to broken glass on the track and around it. In all other aspects it wasn't really an issue - they used to graffiti the rostrum sides but so what? Occasionally they'd try to knock out the side panels and there would be a bit of litter but again of no consequence. Smashed bottles however are dangerous.....

[johnnygibbon]

Why is it always about the kids who may or may not cause damage or whatever that's why we don't have a jump on track now
Can we not just build what we want and worry about it after
It seems that vandals/ kids are more important than actually having decent facilities eg track and rostron modifications
Like I said why So much naysaying and worrying
We want better track and facilities we are an Rc club after all
And if any one don't like the drawings then upload your own suggestions they are welcome to give us all an idea pf what to do instead of talking , bury needs some positive actions
And less bullshit and worry about what could happen in the worst case
Things have been ok generally for the last few years
Lets hope it lasts
And if multiple options were available in the poll then it would not give a clear indication of what people really want
In reality it's gonna be a long process altering both the track and race controll / rostron so the poll allows one choice to see what's really wanted first

And I think meshing the top of the rostron to stop the dancing elephants is a quick cheap fix that could be done soon and solve one problem immediately so at least Si or whoever a in there don't go deaf
C'mon guys stay positive upload ya drawings
A picture speaks a thousand words

[MikePimlott]

Put a roof on the rostrum and have the stairs inside the cabin, with a hatch on the roof maybe ?

Move the rostrum back, this is a good idea its too close and you cant see the corners becuase of transmitters. And i hate when you have to look straight down When your car comes that close.

The problem with bury (my opinion) is you have 6 obstacles and no features. Joinig each obstacle is a flat piece of astro, i agree with buds some surface changes would be good but more undulations would be better.

[budfish]

I just don't see the point of moving race control it was a big enough job just getting the stairs up.

Why move it back 3 feet when we could just not use the first 3 feet of track put a long hose from top to bottom this will also be usefull for marshalling.

As for the table top in the top corner I just turn that into a massive banked corner which should be easy enough to do with it being in the corner

[Si Coe]

So in your quest to improve the track you are willing to give up 3ft along the entire length of the track? Not 'best use of space' is it?

That said my idea won't work. If we moved the rostrum back, the (public) path behind race control would need to be in front instead, and that means there would still need to be a fence there. So the improved view of the track is through the fence which isn't great either.

And this is the point of what I'm doing here. Its not naysaying or negativity - its called thinking stuff through. Simple plain reality is that there are NO perfect solutions, we can't please everybody and every plan has its downsides. What needs to be done it to consider the various pro's and con's and decide what is in the best interests of the club. Which I might point out isn't always the same as the interests of a few loud mouthed forum users

[Loiismustdie]

I say we move the track 3 feet away from the rostrum then.

[Chris Elworthy]

Alright lads?

There seems to have been a lot of comments regarding the local chavs when talking about putting a roof on the rostrum which seems to be getting massively out of hand. If we put a locked gate at the top of the steps onto the rostrum under the roof it would take some particularly determined, Spider Man-like kids to get up there especially carrying a bag of bootleg blue WKD's! Surely this is by far the best and most cost effective way to achieve what we want?

Johnny, sorry mate but what on earth do we need a two tier rostrum for? This will neither keep us dry nor move the rostrum back. As a short term solution all we need to do is mark a line around half a metre back from the railings on the rostrum as they do at other clubs and your vantage point will be slightly improved, personally I haven't really noticed a problem with the current position, yes it could be better but it's not a priority.

As for the track, reprofiling what we have now and introducing undulations and level changes and possibly a few surface changes, even if its just lower bite astro would be a start we don't need to reinvent the wheel IMO. With all due respect to the designers and builders of which I will be lending a hand I don't want us to do too much too soon and possibly end up with a bit of a mess.

Must my opinion


Chris

[losichris]

Originally Posted by Chris Elworthy

Alright lads?

There seems to have been a lot of comments regarding the local chavs when talking about putting a roof on the rostrum which seems to be getting massively out of hand. If we put a locked gate at the top of the steps onto the rostrum under the roof it would take some particularly determined, Spider Man-like kids to get up there especially carrying a bag of bootleg blue WKD's! Surely this is by far the best and most cost effective way to achieve what we want?

Johnny, sorry mate but what on earth do we need a two tier rostrum for? This will neither keep us dry nor move the rostrum back. As a short term solution all we need to do is mark a line around half a metre back from the railings on the rostrum as they do at other clubs and your vantage point will be slightly improved, personally I haven't really noticed a problem with the current position, yes it could be better but it's not a priority.

As for the track, reprofiling what we have now and introducing undulations and level changes and possibly a few surface changes, even if its just lower bite astro would be a start we don't need to reinvent the wheel IMO. With all due respect to the designers and builders of which I will be lending a hand I don't want us to do too much too soon and possibly end up with a bit of a mess.

Must my opinion


Chris

This makes sense.
Re profile to current features and go from there.
Some cheap astro and a bit of dirt for surface change and there we have it.