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I will do, for when i see you at Stotfold...... How's that Vega ????
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Old 17-02-2011
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If the shocks didnt help he would have gone back to standard velvets??
Maybe he would've, but that isn't what Kyosho would want.....

At the retail price (especially springs ) they have got to be an absolute "must" to be worth it.
They would be an easier sell if the shocks they're replacing were crap.... but everybody raves about the velvets.
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Old 17-02-2011
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Nic,

I do like the big bores

I just think you need deep pockets.

Outdoors will be the biggest benifit i have no doubt. Shin told me they tested on a lot of tracks and was faster everytime with the big bores.

But you dont have to have big bores to go quick
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Maybe he would've, but that isn't what Kyosho would want.....

At the retail price (especially springs ) they have got to be an absolute "must" to be worth it.
They would be an easier sell if the shocks they're replacing were crap.... but everybody raves about the velvets.
Yes and they are good... kit shocks are one of the best out there..

You need to test drive a car with them on to appreciate what im on about

As for Tebo.. he obviously went for what makes him quicker..?? I dont think it would be a question of Kyosho made him..?? Tebo is always looking for the win...

Neil.. very true! are you at the next Ardent??

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Not racing at Ardent!!

I dont race much as you know.

doing carpet offroad wars at Maratime.
Then i think Kyosho cup at Silverstone.
Nothing planned after that.

BTW anyone seen the new Bulldog body for RB5 from Proline??
I want one
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Nope... you got a pic?
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Hi Guys,

I fully agree with Nick on this as I have now been running Kyosho ZX5 FS/FS2 for well over year.

On the FS2 i was getting quicker everytime i ran the car learning setups etc.
Then one weekend at Chadderton i ran the standard velvet shocks for two runs the car was dialled was so impressed with the car.
So for the other rounds i ran the big bores same setup as Nick C car i was even faster i could push the car so much more but was so easy to drive though.

Everytime i have ran the car with Big Bores not once i have thought of going back to the Velvet's they are nicely packed away incase i ever do need them but i doubt it though.

As for another set will hopefully have some for the RB5 as i think this is must for when the outdoor season starts

I'm enjoying this electric racing so much, I thinking of doing it more bit more than the 1/8th IC this year too.

I know you guys complain about the prices but are worth every pennie tbh.
I myself aint sponsored in anyway at all not even any discount, find myself hunting the net for best prices though

But it's your choice end of the day, i say the kit shocks are fantastic but the Big Bores have converted me get massive thumbs up from me
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Nope... you got a pic?
Sweet i like it
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OK, so any setups from the non-Big Bore guys? Astro or Grass please!
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OK, so any setups from the non-Big Bore guys? Astro or Grass please!
Check this out -

http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/SetupSheetDataBase.htm
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Toby,

I'm not sure how many people have actually run them outdoors (grass/astro/multisurface) as yet, I personally don't know of anybody else who has (that doesn't mean there aren't though).

It will be like everything to do with this sport, a matter of personal tastes! I will get them to work for me, not putting them in the bin at that price LOL. Seriously though I like, no need, a fairly stiff/packy damping setup on the front end of a 4wd buggy ... running thicker oils might give the stiffer damping but doesn't bring the pack I need.

I run a one-way in my car which might also be a factor to consider with shock set up. I've tried permenant 4wd and just can not drive it, finally gave up after about 6 months of "forcing" myself to run a diff even though I wasn't ever happy with it.
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OK, so any setups from the non-Big Bore guys? Astro or Grass please!
I run my FS2 last weekend at Eden Park in dry conditions and I thought it was struggling a little over the bumpy sections.
I changed the shocks to Big Bores and the car was transformed.
Bumps? What bumps? It was that much different.
I will now use the big bores anywhere there is bumpy sections.
The weather was ultra cold so bare this in mind when you see the oils used.
30w (Losi oil) front
22.5w (Losi oil) rear
Hope this helps you a little
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thanks Tony

what springs and shock positions did you use? and did you use roll bars?
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I run my FS2 last weekend at Eden Park in dry conditions and I thought it was struggling a little over the bumpy sections.
I changed the shocks to Big Bores and the car was transformed.
Bumps? What bumps? It was that much different.
I will now use the big bores anywhere there is bumpy sections.
The weather was ultra cold so bare this in mind when you see the oils used.
30w (Losi oil) front
22.5w (Losi oil) rear
Hope this helps you a little
what springs did you have on tony?
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Please remember that it was very very cold so normal conditions would for sure change the oil damping but not much else

Front - 30w Losi oil - standard piston - Yellow spring.
Middle hole on wishbone and shock tower


Rear - 22.5w Losi oil - standard piston - Gold spring
Inner hole on wishbone and outer hole on tower


22mm right height all round

Low down force rear wing ala Ellis (executor) and Kev Moore (advisor) - I need new decals now! LOL

Short rear link - Long front link
Long wheelbase after getting told off by Ellis - LOL

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I run my FS2 last weekend at Eden Park in dry conditions and I thought it was struggling a little over the bumpy sections.
I changed the shocks to Big Bores and the car was transformed.
Bumps? What bumps? It was that much different.
I will now use the big bores anywhere there is bumpy sections.
The weather was ultra cold so bare this in mind when you see the oils used.
30w (Losi oil) front
22.5w (Losi oil) rear
Hope this helps you a little
Glad to see your using them and appreciating them pal! Awesome shocks!

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Please remember that it was very very cold so normal conditions would for sure change the oil damping but not much else

Front - 30w Losi oil - standard piston - Yellow spring.
Middle hole on wishbone and shock tower


Rear - 22.5w Losi oil - standard piston - Gold spring
Inner hole on wishbone and outer hole on tower


22mm right height all round

Low down force rear wing ala Ellis (executor) and Kev Moore (advisor) - I need new decals now! LOL

Short rear link - Long front link
Long wheelbase after getting told off by Ellis - LOL
thanks mate,i was thinking of starting of with very similar just 35w front oil but still the 22.5w rear i use losi oil to.
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Lads, I used the same set up at Stotfold yesterday and the car is real good - A couple of minor changes with the help of John Spencer so getting close to a real good starting point for these shocks.
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Lads, I used the same set up at Stotfold yesterday and the car is real good - A couple of minor changes with the help of John Spencer so getting close to a real good starting point for these shocks.
Stotfold? I thought you said you were going to TORCH on saturday?
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Keep the updates coming!

Would also be interested in knowing what effect the Big bores are having on your laptimes (i.e. are they making you lap faster, more consistently or both).

Are you running the Vega link and if so, which holes?

I ran mine yesterday (indoors) and thought the car was ace!
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