Schumacher Superstox G12

[morpheus2010]

Schumacher have just brought out a 1/12 Superstox car, low cost <£99

Is RVRCC going to allow them to race ?

BRCA have just decided on 2 classes for GT12 Modified GT12.1 or Unmodified GT12.2

7 Classes of Racing
7.1 GT12.1, using brushed or brushless motors as defined in Construction Rules 2, 3, 4 and 5. Cars may be fitted with additional parts not supplied in the rolling chassis kit (see Rule 6.7 and 6.7.1) including a differential in the rear axle, replacements for other parts and home-made parts.

7.2 GT12.2 using brushed or brushless motors as defined in Construction Rules 2, 3, 4 and 5. Cars may only be fitted with parts supplied in the rolling chassis kit (see Rule 6.7 and 6.7.1). A rear axle differential is not allowed.

[tisher]

any mardave style 12th can race but you will not be included in the spring series then can not be registered for positions in the final at least thats what I think the rules are but I might be wrong

[singin pete]

I have been keeping an eye on all the posts on other forums on this new 12th scale model. The club will watch the development with interest but has no plans to include them.

The rules for Mardave racing at our club are on the website, but if its got a Mardave chassis, Mardave parts, G2 motor and 4 cells it will be included in the league.

The problem with including any non legal cars is they could affect members points.

Every 4/5 weeks we run a couple of "Fun" nights, these new cars could be run on these nights only.

As I have said before the members make the rules we only enforce them, so if they want change and it gets enough votes at the AGM its in!!

Peter

[Rigaxe]

These do look cool and I have done some reading on the specs size ect and they are virtually the same as a dave even have the same rear axle don't really see why everyone is kicking of I think it's all Healthy competion and just a new cheap way to enter racing as mardaves have been around since the start of time why not have different make like buggy classes they are all made to do the same ......... Make people smile and laugh

[singin pete]

We race 10th Buggies and Mardaves. not Buggies and 12th scale at Ribble.

They do look a good piece of kit Mark, but until thing change its Mardaves and buggies.

Peter

[tisher]

Originally Posted by Rigaxe

These do look cool and I have done some reading on the specs size ect and they are virtually the same as a dave even have the same rear axle don't really see why everyone is kicking of I think it's all Healthy competion and just a new cheap way to enter racing as mardaves have been around since the start of time why not have different make like buggy classes they are all made to do the same ......... Make people smile and laugh

the problem is buddy if you say allow any motor any class 1/12 then it ends up like the buggies and you will end up with heats where there is massive difference in lap times between people where as at the moment there is less than a second between the top drivers

[coleman758]

The >>>MARDAVE<<< class, needs to stay the same!
The racing is great at the moment, with me and martin giving Kev & Dobs a run for there money.

If anything the only addition would be brushless but again limited to the G2 or 13.5 systems to keep the cars the same.

[Rigaxe]

yes matt and pete i do agree close racing does make it more fair likr f1 lol looking forward to friday...... its nearly time cant wait!!!!!

[coleman758]

Its been ace for the past few weeks!

I was chuffed with 2nd last week, Cheeky overtake past Kev & Dan in the same corner.... Priceless

Talking of F1.... Have you seen the new Mardave F1?

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99967

[The Bod]

Originally Posted by coleman758

The >>>MARDAVE<<< class, needs to stay the same!
The racing is great at the moment, with me and martin giving Kev & Dobs a run for there money.

If anything the only addition would be brushless but again limited to the G2 or 13.5 systems to keep the cars the same.

Are you not running a brushless motor in yours

[tisher]

Originally Posted by The Bod

Are you not running a brushless motor in yours

noooo he just has extra bits in his G2

I am going to run the 44 tommorow in anger for the first time see what I can shakes loose with the daft motor in it

[The Bod]

I will be there. New spur gear fitted so hopefully can sort it out once and for all

[tisher]

Originally Posted by The Bod

I will be there. New spur gear fitted so hopefully can sort it out once and for all

yours was running well in the final dude with the additive on the back tyres

[morpheus2010]

Originally Posted by tisher

the problem is buddy if you say allow any motor any class 1/12 then it ends up like the buggies and you will end up with heats where there is massive difference in lap times between people where as at the moment there is less than a second between the top drivers

Who said Any Motor, Any Class. BRCA have defined GT12 classes and motor/esc classifications.

G2 brushed motors/4cell or 13.5 brushless/blinky/1S lipo would limit the power/cost

Kit parts only

Healthy competition would have more in this class running

[tisher]

i don't know if you would gain more people opening up the class because a lot of the lads that are running stock might get disheartened when you are twice the speed of them and not every one wants to spend big on 12ths I only run mine because its a good laugh and its a bit to hectic running a quick buggy with 10 in a heat

[fidspeed]

hi to all at ribble
Tish and coleman who i have dealt with on sale section (both decent fellows

our club races weekly on wooden floor but approx once a month on a sunday roll out the carpet We too are following an almost identical path regarding supastox schueys

they will be allowed to run alongside the daves but not be eligible for the current series championship , motor regs will be same as our mardave rules

AGM will be the time for rule changes this will give us an evaluation period

1/2th pan cars (loopy unguided missiles ) have their own personal destruction derby

good luck guys dave fid

[tisher]

Originally Posted by fidspeed

hi to all at ribble
Tish and coleman who i have dealt with on sale section (both decent fellows

our club races weekly on wooden floor but approx once a month on a sunday roll out the carpet We too are following an almost identical path regarding supastox schueys

they will be allowed to run alongside the daves but not be eligible for the current series championship , motor regs will be same as our mardave rules

AGM will be the time for rule changes this will give us an evaluation period

1/2th pan cars (loopy unguided missiles ) have their own personal destruction derby

good luck guys dave fid

Hi Dave I think your pretty much doing what the guys do at our club. Any 12th/dave format can run in the races alongside the g2 run mardaves but they just can not be positioned in the final as it would take away points from people running the championships. eventually I think they might go to 13.5t limit on the cars but that will not be much different to the g2s that are racing and maybe two different classes in championships. Me personaly have nothing against running an open class but it just starts making the class more expensive and silly for everyone we are already doing 3 laps more than the A final buggies just running g2s

[fidspeed]

hi martin
are daves are currently dual class "open" is 19t brushed or 13.5 brushless 1s lipo
or "stock" 27t 4 cell there isnt a massive difference to be honest ,we have no chassis restrictions or hop ups as were only playing really , more like banger ovals at times

but like you the "Dave" championships will not be affected (we have not had a schuey ready yet for our carpet meetings but were looking forward to locking horns

good luck with yours and let common sense rule

regards dave

[coleman758]

Or we could run 2 cell Dave's with 7.5 brushless motors!

Car £70
RS Pro £190
Redline 7.5 £80
Orion 90c Saddles £80

Mardave overtaking buggys on the streight PRICELESS!
The best fun you will have with 4-wheels!

[morpheus2010]

Originally Posted by coleman758

Or we could run 2 cell Dave's with 7.5 brushless motors!

Car £70
RS Pro £190
Redline 7.5 £80
Orion 90c Saddles £80

Mardave overtaking buggys on the streight PRICELESS!
The best fun you will have with 4-wheels!

I would baulk at paying £350 to £400 (servo added to above) for kitting out a GT12 class car, especially when the idea is to keep costs down while having a competition class car.

Limit the batteries to 1S Lipo or 4 Cell NiMH, stock G2 motor or 13.5 brushless. Blinky or Fixed ESC for example.

7.5 brushless, 2S Lipo is positively Bonkers in a GT12 Class car.

You can get competition class 1S Lipo's in UK for £40-£50 or budget concious Turnigy Nano-Tech 1S Lipo from HobbyKing < £20 including postage for example. Takes about 2 weeks delivery.

HobbyWing JUStock (£40) is a reasonable brushless ESC if budget is limited for example. The HobbyWing XERUN-120A-1S ESC (~£90) is better as it has a built in voltage boost and can be used in other classes eg. TC or Buggy's if needs be.

The balance between cost and competition is always a factor. Mardaves are cheap and cheerful. By Schumacher bringing in a car within a similar price range but better engineered as standard, could raise the interest in this class.

Certainly the BRCA seems to think so with its recent rules for GT12