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Default Other brands of 28t idler gear to fit rat/monkey

Been racing the Monkey on high grip astro with lots of jumps and its killing the idler gears.

What other brands are compatible and of a stronger material that can drop straight in the gearbox. I already have the hpi firestorm metal idler gears but they just eat the diff gear as they are narrower. I have set the slipper as loose as possible without the nut coming of the spur shaft.

Its not so much the money but more of a right pain in the arse to disassemble the diff case all the time.

Is there a 52t metal diff gear that can fit in there?
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Try a Kyosho SP Idler £8 or the Acetel (I think thats what it's called) Idler made by Team Extreme £5.

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Also the losi xxx idler will fit with a slight bit of reaming to fit the bearing.
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HPI blitz idler fit without any bricolage
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Order one of these up...

http://www.jespares.com/electric-mod...tegory_id=1302

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I agree with above, was told by a team driver that I would need to replace the 1st plastic idler from layshaft with the ally one asap as it will stip...he was not wrong, it soon let go. also the new nylon one's should be out very soon, so my plan is layshaft, then ally, then nylon to diff.
I have also ordered one of the new composite diff gear from TCmodels

The idlers are a very week part of the kit, but for 65quid you can't realy grumble, there is a 2wd mid car that I hold a special hatered for, costs about 4x the price,and still has a crap gearbox


Ps Ansmann say the ally gears will be back in stock very soon

part No 125001137
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Maybe one for RW racing to do if it's a known prob?
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I agree with above, was told by a team driver that I would need to replace the 1st plastic idler from layshaft with the ally one asap as it will stip...he was not wrong, it soon let go. also the new nylon one's should be out very soon, so my plan is layshaft, then ally, then nylon to diff.
I have also ordered one of the new composite diff gear from TCmodels

The idlers are a very week part of the kit, but for 65quid you can't realy grumble, there is a 2wd mid car that I hold a special hatered for, costs about 4x the price,and still has a crap gearbox


Ps Ansmann say the ally gears will be back in stock very soon

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Whats the difference apart from it being white?
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Maybe one for RW racing to do if it's a known prob?

I had heard, but not 100% that this was being made by RW
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Whats the difference apart from it being white?

The original gear is just plastic. nylon is mutch stronger, huge diffrence
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The original gear is just plastic. nylon is mutch stronger, huge diffrence
Great.

Do you know when they are going to be available and who will stock them?

I see the AE ones are 28t and the diff is 52t. Do they fit, not sure if the bearings are metric size on the b4
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Great.

Do you know when they are going to be available and who will stock them?A for who will stock them.

I see the AE ones are 28t and the diff is 52t. Do they fit, not sure if the bearings are metric size on the b4

Well ansmann told my local hobby shop they should have the idlers in stock any day...that could mean tmro, could be next month, never sure when they say that. you can order them from any shop the sells ansmann,thats just about any model shop

not sure if the AE diff would fit, the bearing will not for sure, as the monkey is metric and the AE in imperial, I think the drive cup diamiter may be the same, but the outer diamiter is a bit bigger with the AE bearings, but tbh the diff seems quite good on the monkey, I am running diffrent balls but with the original plates etc and the diff has stayed very smooth after about 4-5 runs

I am only trying the composite one as it is prity cheep and I just wanted to se what it is like
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I have only stripped 1 stock idler gear in 1 season between 2 cars (truck+2wd buggy)I only put in the losi one as I had one on hand, and it happen to run quieter.
The associated diff may fit, it uses 10x16 outdrive bearings, the ansmann 10x15.
I dont know if the rest of the dimensions allow it to run properly inside the dif case.
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The original gear is just plastic. nylon is mutch stronger, huge diffrence
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part No 125001137
This new part will solve your problems.

If you're really impatient visit tcmodels.net for this part plus some other new stuff like kevlar diff gear and front chassis plate.

This company (Team C/Ansmann) is doing some awesome upgrades atm it seems like they want to produce awesome race cars not just entry level stuff.
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just order the alloy ones from tcmodels because they are brilliant and no reliability issues at all but make a big order so its worth while.

saying that Ive been running 10t brushless since January and no wear on gears at all and couldn't see why there would as its what the slipper is designed to protect
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Spot on



This new part will solve your problems.

If you're really impatient visit tcmodels.net for this part plus some other new stuff like kevlar diff gear and front chassis plate.

This company (Team C/Ansmann) is doing some awesome upgrades atm it seems like they want to produce awesome race cars not just entry level stuff.

Just ordered 2 metal bevel gears and 2 kevlar diff gears.

Didnt know they had the upgrade for the diff.

Ordered this morning. How long does it take and will i get custom charges?


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no custom charges and i got mine in 3 days! from hong Kong is fast!
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no custom charges and i got mine in 3 days! from hong Kong is fast!


I was expecting 3 weeks
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I have just been blown away by TC models...I ordered some bits on friday pm, got home from work today and there was a package from HK on the table!!! I was jefin gob smacked, thats just over 48hours WOW. now thats good service!

Need to add that all the bits ordered are not avalable in the uk, always try to support my LHS
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no custom charges and i got mine in 3 days! from hong Kong is fast!
Yea they're great thats why I try to spread the word.

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I have just been blown away by TC models...I ordered some bits on friday pm, got home from work today and there was a package from HK on the table!!! I was jefin gob smacked, thats just over 48hours WOW. now thats good service!

Need to add that all the bits ordered are not avalable in the uk, always try to support my LHS
I do to however LHS dont really seem to believe in the brand as much as AE/Losi so they'll miss out on the sales until they wise up a little.
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