cab forward shells

[bigred5765]

would you be interested in a cab forward shell for the cougar and the cat sx3
ill do a poll vote on both if you like
please be advised public vote
I'm thinking finnisher style

[lochness42]

None of above - BittyDesign Mugen MBX6 Force style.

[bigred5765]

slightly similar to the finnisher, thats the kinda style i like

[Origineelreclamebord]

I really dislike the Cubic styling of the Finnisher and the Bulldog shells, I'm sorry

I suggest doing cab-forward shells like this:

http://www.ultimatetamiya.com/cars/m...olar-eagle.jpg
http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/at...0&d=1256192095
http://kedrix.rc.pagesperso-orange.fr/DSCF0018.jpg

Fighter plane-like cockpit, nicely rounded, flowing and aerodynamic shapes (without creating something resembling an ocean like the TRF501X ). I could scan or make some pictures of drawings I made over the last year of cab-forward shells to show more clearly what I mean.

With that said, I don't own an SX3 However, if I'd buy a 4WD I do have serious interest in an SX3 - that, or a DEX410.

[bigred5765]

the problem with the rounded approach is they don't provide the down force the square cab does, the flat face works as a air dam,

[Origineelreclamebord]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

the problem with the rounded approach is they don't provide the down force the square cab does, the flat face works as a air dam,

Isn't it possible to create similar/the same results with setup instead of changing a whole shell? I like to think shells can be shaped to primarily serve the cause of aesthetics And if you want proper front downforce, getting a front wing may help?

[canon67]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

would you be interested in a cab forward shell for the cougar and the cat sx3
ill do a poll vote on both if you like
please be advised public vote
I'm thinking finnisher style

Is there not one available by FTW

[bigred5765]

there is but its the ugliest thing you'll ever see

[Rat Monkey]

Nice calculations ASKay, couldn't tell you if your right or not but to say the amount of force is insignificant I'm not so sure. 0.06 kg is 60g and in the grand scheme of things not that great, but plenty of people add weight to their cars of about this amount and feel it improves things, so maybe even a small amount of extra downforce is enough to help?

[ASKay]

Thank you.... remember the calc is for a high velocity, and not a realistic corner speed, so to add a curve which gives an indication..

I think this is worthy of its own thread..... be good to model the down force v mass and centripetal force downside.



so you can see that at 10mph you get very little back, I have used a different angle of attatck as well 45 degrees, as well as a bigger area...but then at some point the angle of attatck increase will stop working and just create drag, this equation does not identify that change, and I do not know when it breaks.

so at 10mph, adding weights will work way better, but on a fast corner track then an aero method would work better...

appols for temp highjacking thread, back to topic......

p.s. are you thinking/hoping someone will make one for the SX3, or are you thinking of doing one yourself???? if so then I would buy one, just for something different....

[bigred5765]

and back to my thread

[Origineelreclamebord]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

there is but its the ugliest thing you'll ever see

I don't really agree on this, it may not be a stunner but it looks better.

What puzzles me is why they'd make the sidepods so high - it could just as well counteract the forward placed cab (especially since it's rounded)?

Anyway, wouldn't it be easier to develop a front wing set for the SX3? Perhaps even with front wings that mount on the suspension arms themselves? (After all there's loads of open space there to play with).

PS: Sorry to keep going 'off-topic', but if you look at what your question is about, it's whether people would like more front downforce on their SX3s

[Cardnim]

Was interesting to read that Tom Cockerill test ran a cab forward shell on his Cat, but decided it didnt make enough of an advantage to keep it and has returned to the standard.

My choice would be for the bulldog style as I can see this giving more downforce where its needed (i.e. at the front) - its just unfortunate that it looks ugly as sin!

The finnisher looks way better but too far back to make a big difference I would have thought.

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by Cardnim

Was interesting to read that Tom Cockerill test ran a cab forward shell on his Cat, but decided it didnt make enough of an advantage to keep it and has returned to the standard.

My choice would be for the bulldog style as I can see this giving more downforce where its needed (i.e. at the front) - its just unfortunate that it looks ugly as sin!

The finnisher looks way better but too far back to make a big difference I would have thought.

ill make em look good, bulldog and finnisher style
ps tom tried the bulldog and said it gave to much front end which is why he went back to std shell