new HotBodies buggy?? (photos!!)

[capellone24]

hi on the net i've found this http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200609%2F10%2F13%2Fa0035013%5F1671578%2Ejpg
http://www13.ocn.ne.jp/~mirage-j/gallery/06off/06off7_04.jpg

it seems a new 4wd buggy from HB......i can't found a closer pic of the car could anyone post one here?
Bye!

[jimmy]

darn its hard to see :( Hope it is a new buggy.. it seems to be using the bj4we shell but it doesnt look like a bj4we to me.
that tamiya is mad looking, the shell I mean..

[jimmy]

The more I look at it the more I think its a modified bj4, different shocks etc, but basically a bj4. probably wrong though ! :)
The tamiya looks cool as well, darn them and their little photos.

The warm up looks fun, I really wish I was going to the worlds :(
http://www13.ocn.ne.jp/~mirage-j/gallery/06off.htm (http://www13.ocn.ne.jp/%7Emirage-j/gallery/06off.htm)

[jimmy]

found another photo which looks identical to the two hotbodies buggies above

http://driveon.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/060910_10430001.jpg

looks like a bj4we shell, but definately something else. what is it ? is it a BX ?

[jimmy]

mmm, whats this ? http://driveon.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/060909_17560001.jpg
A kyosho zx5 update ?

[jimmy]

http://driveon.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/060909_00360001.jpg


I wonder if that is the hotbodies shell ?? its a bj4we shell but remoulded by the looks of it, since the scoops are angled back and slightly larger maybe. its also setup for mounting on the yokomo BX (or hotbodies car/ same thing)

[DCM]

The HB car looks to have the same configuration as the Yokomo BX and the Tamiys, hinting at equal length belts, mid-motor design, kinda cool to be honest.

And if that Tamiya has done well, might even see it go into production, I best get saving.

[jimmy]

I hope it is a new HB buggy and not just a BX with a couple of different bits on to make it look like their sponsors car.

[DCM]

if it is a HB car, then it will be all their parts Jim, just pinched the layout from elsewhere, lol.

[bigred5765]

what a short memory you lot have its a tamiya
http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=105&d=1147962101

[jimmy]

lol, I think you jumped in a bit quick there carl. you can see the latest tamiya prototype at the top of this page, and it looks nothing like the "HB" cars at all.

I have to wonder why Hotbodies would be running a prototype tamiya ? lol :p
Thats like Masami helping to develop the BJ4we.

The BJ4we-hybrid shell like the HB guys are running in this thread is setup for running on the BX or pretty much identical car, the tamiya has 2 body posts at the front, the BX has one in the centre.

Reading a crap translation of the text, the white shell (bj4we style) was given out to BX drivers at the pre-worlds race. Goodness knows what that means. reading even more crap translation, it makes reference to the HotBodies car using pro4 gearboxes and bj4 parts.

[OldTimer]

I can remember in a thread a while ago Jason @ Jconcepts confirmed that he had supplied Tamiya with a load of BJ4WE parts :)

Would be nice to see the HB car up close, i hope they try something a little different to the standard layouts.

[jimmy]

Hope so.. I certainly do hope both these buggys make it to production.

Here is a link to a couple of threads with photos from the pre-worlds in japan http://www.rcmx.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1866 - you have to dig a little to get anywhere.

There is a photo of a 2wd kyosho on there, but its hard to tell wether its a home-brew update for the Kyosho Ultima TypeR, or an official Kyosho development car.

[kentech]

Click here for better pics of the new BX body.

http://geocities.yahoo.co.jp/gl/goauruds/view/200609
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[craigosh]

oooo interesting that bx shell..

On that pic at the top of the thread, with hara in, on the right side, is that one of the tamiyas shells painted up in his colors!!!???!!!

[jimmy]

http://www.geocities.jp/goauruds/_gl_images_/DSC01218.JPG

does look like it doesnt it, interesting!!

good find on the new BX shell kentech, I dont understand why its a modified BJ4we though ? !? ! did they think we would not notice ? :p

I see they have some mr4-bx stickers now too!! does that mean no one will want jimmy ones any longer ? haha

[bigred5765]

at least it looks better than the old one, i hated it

wonder if it will the bj4

[jimmy]

I'd have thought so, though the hump on the left is a bit misplaced for the bj4.
I guess this is the same shell seen on the HB buggys, so I hope that doesn't mean the HB's are BX's, everywhere Ive seen results etc its described the cars as HB's, have to wait and see some photies leak out I guess.

I should start a "send jimmy to the worlds" fund, I'll get the photies!:jimmeh

[bigred5765]

I'd have thought so, though the hump on the left is a bit misplaced for the bj4.
I guess this is the same shell seen on the HB buggy's, so I hope that doesn't mean the HB's are BX's, everywhere Ive seen results etc its described the cars as HB's, have to wait and see some photies leak out I guess.

I should start a "send jimmy to the worlds" fund, I'll get the photies!:jimmeh

if u look real close it does look like they might be bx's as u cant see a diff casing just a plastic flat cover, but they seem to have bj4 front shockmounts

[jimmy]

The photo I put in with the yellow bj4style body IS a BX, but now I look again at the first photo in this thread, things become a bit clearer. The HB buggys dont have a clear cover like you mention, they have a curved black gearbox.

Could be a crappy disguise! blue peter style.. or could actually be their own car, possibly cobbled together from their own and others bits.

[OldTimer]

Maybe Jconcepts are doing the Shells ?

[jimmy]

Could be.. I'd imagined they had just nicked it for a quick prototype shell, nothing wrong with that. But it seems to be a new Bx shell. I dont know if they changed the roof line at all, or maybe its those big scoops, but I think it looks nicer than the bj4 shell.

[MattW]

HPI actualy made a prototype 4wd off rd car a good few years back. 5-6 years ago at a guess. Jamie Booth did a lot of work on it i think when he worked at Mirage.

If they are going the shaft route they onviously already have the Pro 4 stuff to base it around. If they go belts, they have the cyclone diffs and parts if tey so wish.

They would likely pick the transmission and build it themselves then take suspension from other cars. This was how they did the Pro 4 ages back. Initially it just looked like a carbon twin deck TC£ - cos that's what it was!!!!

[Jimbo]

It doesn't need that scoop in the roof though, the motor is in front of the top of the roof and the batteries are way down low...

Cosmetics..pft..

Loving all the new cars though..

Looks like the HB could be shaft drive with the two piece front gearbox, or it could be a shield, the front tower looks way flimsy and not like anything else, I reckon it's a new car altogether..

[jimmy]

I think this will make it much clearer:

While arranging the gear box of PRO4 constitute on front and back, from before with battery constitution, holding down trend from in the motor and rear, it was impressive to become the secure making. Presently it seemed that uses those of BJ4 provisionally concerning the underside. Because both gap running the whole distance characteristic and cornering efficiency it seems that is high level, selling this way, it is appealing rank, but concerning sale concerning details still it was undecided thing.


hahaha :p

[kentech]

More from the race here:

http://www.f-sangyo.co.jp/endo/EPof_all_japan_2006/EPof_all_japan_2006.html

Getting more and more OT here but here's the Kyosho 2wd.

http://www.f-sangyo.co.jp/endo/EPof_all_japan_2006/EPof_all_japan_2006_A/IMG_0009.jpghttp://www.f-sangyo.co.jp/endo/EPof_all_japan_2006/EPof_all_japan_2006_A/IMG_0010.jpghttp://www.f-sangyo.co.jp/endo/EPof_all_japan_2006/EPof_all_japan_2006_A/IMG_0011.jpg

[craigosh]

doesnt look that dissimilar to the last ultima...

what is it with these guys and small pics, its not like they're using crappy cameras :-(

wonder if that tamiya shell will fit the BJ looks quite interesting..

[jimmy]

from the looks of it, this is more like the Associated B3X than the B4, it definately looks like just an update to the TypeR Ultima. Should be a decent car though.

I'm with you craig, I can't understand what is with all these tiny images!!!! we want detail!

[ryan]

that kyosho 2wd looks like a more simple b4:confused: maybe they copied!!!!!

[nick oliver]

From what i got told on the weekend, 2 Of the HB cars got in top 3 at worlds warm up..:cool: But no one really got any pictures... so by the sounds HB have got a prototype!:)

With hpi.. i remeber a proto pro 4 offroad, but with no slipper the gear box's couldnt really take it! altho they got the cyclone now.......

N.;)

[Frank McKinney]

I've just put a news article on the HB Europe site about the upcoming 4WD buggy: http://www.hbeurope.com/news/en/2006100301.html

It's due in the spring of 2007 :)

[jimmy]

Thanks for the news Frank

Is there anything else you can tell us about he buggy ? I realise its a prototype still, but are the any firm choices such as drivetrain type, cell layout etc ? ?
Will there be a UK team ? (skelding ??) :)

[Frank McKinney]

All we've seen so far are the body-on shots, so no word on the layout, etc. I think it could go either way, between shaft (Pro 4) and mimicing the current belt layouts. Not sure about a UK team but it is something we'll have to consider :)

[jimmy]

Well I can't wait to see some more, its great that some of the bigger names are getting involved in 10th off road, with HB/HPi and Tamiya both now due to release buggys before the worlds next year.
Heres hoping a 2wd is on the drawing board also! :)

If you have any more info to share, feel free anytime ;)

[Frank McKinney]

Heres hoping a 2wd is on the drawing board also! :)

Same here :D The RC world needs more than 3.5 2WD kits (AE, Losi, Schu, X6 counts as a half ;))

If you have any more info to share, feel free anytime ;)

Definitely!

[DCM]

2.5 kits, can't realy count the Schumacher in on this anymore, lol.

Definately would be fun, another big name in the 2wd market.

[woOdy]

Cant wait for this car to be uncovered. I believe it will be a very good car if the touring car technology is anything to go by.

[jimmy]

Hpi is surely one of the biggest names in RC, and putting the time and money into 10th off road is a great sign. very cool indeed.

[woOdy]

Just so happens that my sponsor is the importer for Hpi/Hotbodies. WOW. Cant wait to drive it. I am like a little child that knows what he is getting for xmas.:D

[BenG]

HPi are big, if I remember they are in the top 10, it goes
1.Tamiya
2. Kyosho
3. Futaba/ O.S
4, AE/Tunder Tiger
5-10, HPi's in there somewhere LOL

jsut need a 4wd from Ae, and futaba to make their first car hehehe. they have the money;)

[jimmy]

Futaba to make their first car huh ? You never heard of the FX10 ? ;)

[woOdy]

Wot? Show me the facts.

[BenG]

Futaba to make their first car huh ? You never heard of the FX10 ? ;)

really? Got a linky? Also you got a PM jimmy

[jimmy]

http://cgi.ebay.com/FUTABA-FX10-VINTAGE-COLLECTORS-MODEL-RC-RACER_W0QQitemZ150041451473QQihZ005QQcategoryZ4921 8QQcmdZViewItem

2wd 10th scale electric buggy from the 80's.

[woOdy]

You are soooooooooooooo funny. Anyway, back to the Hotbodies fantastic future.

[BenG]

wowzers, thats ace

[jimmy]

ssoooo funny ? haha. Hey, I was just saying, futaba have made a buggy! it was crap, it was a rebadged tamiya striker with different shell, but hey. :p


Anyway! HPI already won a 10th off road world championship with masami hirosaka. Name the year!

:p

[woOdy]

Reading another forum, Adam will have this car before Hotbodies have said. Nice for us that will be racing at Batley indoors.

[BenG]

Well, there first sort of win was wuth Masami Hirosaka in 1987, he was using their UNO mtotors, and that was his first world championship.

Their first chassis win was with the hot bodies cyclone a few weeks ago :-D

[jimmy]

yea I look forward to seeing it.

[BenG]

Well, there first sort of win was wuth Masami Hirosaka in 1987, he was using their UNO mtotors, and that was his first world championship.

Their first chassis win was with the hot bodies cyclone a few weeks ago :-D
was i right?

[PaulRotheram]

1987, england? :)

[woOdy]

I wonder if Mirage would like some one to take it to the worlds other than a local talent? Hint hint.

[jimmy]

I think they should have you there to be honest mate. I think you can win! bagsie mechanic.

[PaulRotheram]

can i be stand in mechanic for when jimmy goes on a photo craze? :p

[notlawnomis]

1987, england? :)

It was at Romsey, but sure he was using a CAT XLS that year!!

[woOdy]

Thanks Jimmy. I will give you that money later.

[BenG]

It was at Romsey, but sure he was using a CAT XLS that year!!

yeah, but he was using HPI's line of 'UNO' motors

[jimmy]

lol, TYRC is right.

[woOdy]

Jimmy, thought u wud have pics by now.

[jimmy]

hehe, I'm not even sure if the UK Hpi guys have seen pics ? there seems to be a bit of a lack of info about for sure. I just wanna know where to put my order in :p

[woOdy]

I dont know where I have heard this, but I think they have not decided on which drive chain to run. I believe they are trying both belt and shaft. I dont know where I have got this from? It might even be you James.

[woOdy]

Just heard that a top driver has been approched to race HB next year. Top 5 person. Cant tell who it is yet, but a cool driver and a top laugh.

[Chris Doughty]

my guess is Mr X...


wooo hooo, another reason to go rumour talking! :D

EDIT - I actually changed my guess to be annonymous, don't want to damage either party depending what happens.

[jimmy]

I might have to create a hot bodies section on here soon hey. :)

[woOdy]

Damon Hill!!!!!!

[kentech]

Here's a pic of the HB buggy from today ;)

No pictures apparently allowed, but they're continuing to test the prototype in Japan...

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/teamhybrid/imgs/7/4/74824337.jpg

[woOdy]

surely there is a propper picture.:mad:

[jimmy]

Man thats harsh!
someone needs a secret spy camera

[BenG]

Just heard that a top driver has been approched to race HB next year. Top 5 person. Cant tell who it is yet, but a cool driver and a top laugh.

Is it marc Rheindard:D

[jimmy]

my guess is Mr X...


wooo hooo, another reason to go rumour talking! :D

EDIT - I actually changed my guess to be annonymous, don't want to damage either party depending what happens.


Darn! I wish I had a way to see the original post now! lol

I heard a few rumours but will keep quiet till someone says something official.

[BenG]

Myabe Andy Moore:D

[Northy]

I know, I know! :D

G

[jimmy]

spill the beans!!!!!

[Northy]

Sharnt! :p

G

[woOdy]

there was a few drivers interested but they have since taken other deals. The only person now that I know of is Adam(up to now).

[telboy]

just been looking through the posts.....
http://www.f-sangyo.co.jp/endo/EPof_all_japan_2006/EPof_all_japan_2006_A/IMG_0036.jpg

.....are these some sort of new tyre?!:D they look a little heavy.

regarding the pics, how anoying is it that they are small!
there are some nice pics of the hot bodies pits but you can't see sod all cos theyre so small.:(

[woOdy]

looks a bit wet. dont know why there is tape over a 100% water proof speedo though?

[jimmy]

might have wanted to keep mud off it ?
:p

[jimmy]

Any news on this HB buggy ? I know there are a few photos kicking around of the chassis, get em posted up! (I won't tell, honest);)

[woOdy]

Got to be some pics about now?

[jimmy]

Still not seen anything. I was talking to andy moore at the neo, and he might be giving it a run or two next year.

[super__dan]

Not at nationals I wouldn't have thought, I assume he'd be an F5 wouldn't he??? ;)

[PaulRotheram]

my bet would be a few test meets (regionals, club).. then the worlds?

[jimmy]

Not even sure I, as an F4 will be getting in all the nationals yet !?

I wonder if there should be some way for big boys from other disciplines or countries to come over and race in our nationals ? or indeed, if there should be one SUPER NATIONAL in this country after all the nationals are done and finished (perhaps at somewhere like harper adams) so we get all the best drivers and some extras like from the USA and Europe etc..


Oh anyway, but OT.... So wheres this HB then?

[PaulRotheram]

It's over there man, just there.

[jimmy]

The latest word on this car is that it will be officially announced at the Nurenburg toy fair later this month - so expect something similar to the Hot Bodies other news items, with plenty of photos at around the same time as news filters through from the show in Germany.

[Adam Skelding]

Dude.
If ya wanna drop a HB section on here, your more than welcome... I'll be able to offer advice and tips.

As for spy photos, you may be the first one to get photos of it running :cool:

Muhahahahahahahahaha

[jimmy]

Well, I would add a HB section - but it would be a bit bare right now! :eh?: Perhaps open the boot of yer car next weekend, all hush hush style, I wont tell!:D

But yeah, course I will add a section soon.

[Moose]

@ Adam Skelding : AHHH now I now who you are ... not many driver use the hellfire shocks :P

two weeks and we will have the first pics ... i wonder if there will be a HB 1/12 pen car too

[jimmy]

Was there not already a 12th pan car from HPI ? Probably a while ago now, but you never know.
Not as exciting as a buggy tho! :)

[losidan]

there was a 12th from hpi a few years ago but none over here...then hara made himself a conversion kit for the rc12l3 and it was called the hara hammer

[losidan]

there was a 12th from hpi a few years ago but none over here...then hara made himself a conversion kit for the rc12l3 and it was called the hara hammer


cant seem to edit posts...

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/ah12.html

[jimmy]

Teasers!

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/hbteaser.jpg

[DCM]

awww, come on, I don't have x-ray specs Jim... roflol

[BenG]

I do, looks like an empty box to me ;)

[jimmy]

You'd be mistaken! :(

[BenG]

that at your house?

Lets steal it :D:D

[jimmy]

There is a clue as to its where abouts - but I will let you decipher that! :p

[mark christopher]

Adam does it take saddle or in line 6 cells?

[jimmy]

This is the information I have from various sources such as japanese websites and poking adam with a stick:
Saddle pack, mid motor shaft driven. purple alloy bits of course. They are right mean with information though - hence the cruel photo above! But all will be revealed soon.

[BenG]

at the nurenburg toy fair?

[jimmy]

indeed!

:D

[BenG]

When is that, i.e. date wise? :confused:

[jimmy]

1 to 6 February 2007!

[BenG]

6th is my birthday, maybe I'll get a HB buggy :D:D:D

Actually, I am getting a Manfrotto Carbon Fiber tripod ;) mmmmmmmm,c arbon fibery

[Adam Skelding]

After much stick prodding from Jimmy, I thought I'd tease him with a photo of the cars. Shame someone slipped them into the box just as the shutter opened....

I'm not going to disclose any more info... other than to say the cars in the box are 99% complete.

Photos will appear on the web fom HB/HPI... Hopefully I can do a piece with jimmy on the car in a Review type fashion in the near future...

Waddya say Jim-bob>?

:p

[jimmy]

Make sure to send me a photo of that new car mate! :) Can't believe the self control running that XX4 thing when you could have been letting me get a world exclusive instead! :D

Would be fantastic to review the HB mate and get the inside story at the same time - so hard with a lot of companies, but would make a great read I think.

[Adam Skelding]

I've got some photos sorted for ya already as your not going to N'burg....
you'll get them on the opening day...

I've got some on my phone too.. proper spy shots.....

:cool: :o

[OldTimer]

We like spy shots ;)

[jimmy]

I LOVE YOU ADAM :D


I looked into going, getting a cheap flight etc, but then I'd either have to go on public day (been to ECTS when the public were allowed - and it was terrible) or get press acreditation.. all sounded a bit mad did that so I will have to leave it till I am a little more 'pro'
:)

[kentech]

I've got some photos sorted for ya already as your not going to N'burg....
you'll get them on the opening day...

I've got some on my phone too.. proper spy shots.....

:cool: :o

Hehe, that picture made me remember preparing all the cars for the Nurnberg show... Can't believe it's been 5 years already!

You going to Nurnberg Adam? I'll stop by and check out the buggy. Any other interesting news in the HPI/HB booth? ;)

[Adam Skelding]

Hehe, that picture made me remember preparing all the cars for the Nurnberg show... Can't believe it's been 5 years already!

You going to Nurnberg Adam? I'll stop by and check out the buggy. Any other interesting news in the HPI/HB booth? ;)

Hi Kenny,
Yup almost 5 years since you left HPI.... I still have your 'prototype' GTi....:cool:

I will be at Nuremburg this year as always.. some cool stuff on the HPI/HB stand this year and a new stand to boot. Looks very swish...

Has the fuel proofing smell gone yet :confused:

[andys]

Adam.

Can't wait to see the new HPI buggy. I always felt that HPI stuff was sort of in the 'toy' domain, not really for racing ! Not any more though, I recently bought a brand new Moore Speed Cyclone, and the build quality is fantastic, I hope the new buggy is as good.

My sole gripe with the cyclone is the complete lack of setup advice offered with the kit, bizzare for such a top quality item. I'd at least supply some kind of info with the buggy. I've being racing on and off for ages and setup still baffles me, the stuff Xray supply with their Tourers is superb.

Anyhow, if this isn't plastic fantastic, then i'll be seriously considering one simply on my experience of my first HPI kit !

Andy

[jimmy]

Ignore him Adam, I love plastic! apparently HPI is now the more 'toy' brand, and HB the racing brand.

I have to confess, outside the hobby if you mention "hot bodies" you're gonna get some funny looks. :eh?:

[BenG]

I tried searching it on Google once too.

Oh boy, it didn't bring up the HB website :D:D

[mark christopher]

Ignore him Adam, I love plastic! apparently HPI is now the more 'toy' brand, and HB the racing brand.

I have to confess, outside the hobby if you mention "hot bodies" you're gonna get some funny looks. :eh?:
or search on google;)

[kentech]

Hi Kenny,
Yup almost 5 years since you left HPI.... I still have your 'prototype' GTi....:cool:

I will be at Nuremburg this year as always.. some cool stuff on the HPI/HB stand this year and a new stand to boot. Looks very swish...

Has the fuel proofing smell gone yet :confused:

Cool!

I think the smell has just about gone now but I don't think I have recovered the lost brain cells though.... :p

[jimmy]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/hbcar01.jpg

[mark christopher]

looks nice could be my 1st 4x4 for long time

[jimmy]

Hope to get a body-on shot soon

[Chris Doughty]

they have not connected the sensor wire on the speedo! :p

[jimmy]

lol
I got sent this just after he wired them up - so it's work in progress!!

[Chris Doughty]

'who' wired it up? the only person I know that would be putting a speedo in one would put a red one in there? :confused:

[mark christopher]

jimmy some body shots on hotbodies usa site

[jimmy]

If you mean the ones from the worlds warm up then there is a new proper shell since then

There should be information up on the HB site(s) in the next couple of days about the new car - but the photos that I could see are quite old prototype photos??

[mark christopher]

ah ok there what i have seen

[vader]

What a unique design.

Oh wait... :eh?:

[DCM]

Looks like a Posh Academy.... sorry.

[jimmy]

Academy would be chuffed - this won the worlds warmup !

[DCM]

They would indeed, as long as Academy intend to use rubberised plastics and carbon.....

Still, good to see it in the flesh and bound to go well.

[jimmy]

There should be some studio shots soon on the HB site according to Skelding - so I'm sure that will give a better insight as to the work and design thats gone into the car. Should be great right off the bat.

[DCM]

whats the url for the HB site Jimbob?

[jimmy]

http://www.hbeurope.com/?lang=en

completely unrelated but mad none the less
has she actually got stickers on her, or is that a photoshop job? :eh?:

http://www.hbeurope.com/graphics/news/2007011701/2007011701_1.jpg

[woOdy]

Looks like a Posh Academy.... sorry.

I was thinking the same. Sorry.

[Lee]

No she did actually have stickers on her, she had them on her legs and back too, she has a nice body but the face is a bit odd:D

[mark christopher]

you dont look atthe mantle piece when your poking the fire!

[DCM]

you dont look atthe mantle piece when your poking the fire!

ah, the words spoken by one who realy can't be picky, roflol

[jimmy]

I was thinking the same. Sorry.

it's purple! and thence the similarities ended.

[Mxrider99]

http://www.hbeurope.com/?lang=en

completely unrelated but mad none the less
has she actually got stickers on her, or is that a photoshop job? :eh?:

http://www.hbeurope.com/graphics/news/2007011701/2007011701_1.jpg
where have i seen her before. ahh yes this pic.


http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1138/20060114mrc0025ff2.jpg
lol, notice the kid in the background

[jimmy]

haha

ace!!!
:D

[Lee]

Once she had done her little walk about with the board she had to climb up some stairs till the next heat, all the kids were taking photos of the great view as the climbed them until she realised and covered her arse with the board.

How boring:D

[mark christopher]

she gets round a bit

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/corallyrdxphi.jpg

[Mxrider99]

IMO shes not really that pretty.

id rather it be one of these girls
[begin hot chicks with rc cars post]

http://rc411.com/pom/mercedes2/04.jpg
http://rc411.com/pom/alex/02.jpg
http://rc411.com/pom/tatum2/05.jpg
[/end hot chicks with rc cars post]

[Lindsay]

Jimmy, The spy photos on my phone from Adam at the show do not look any thing like this of the NEW Hot Bodies 4wd.

Lindsay;) ;) ;)

[Chris Doughty]

check out Reto in the background of that pic with the girl on the grid :p

He gets all the good meetings

[bert digler]

http://www.hbeurope.com/?lang=en

completely unrelated but mad none the less
has she actually got stickers on her, or is that a photoshop job? :eh?:

http://www.hbeurope.com/graphics/news/2007011701/2007011701_1.jpg

does she have no entry on her arse:D

[_sleigh_]

The level of this post is getting lower and lower. :-(

[Mxrider99]

lol, i got the email of what you said at first. lol

[_sleigh_]

lol, i got the email of what you said at first. lol

:D

If we can drag things kicking and screaming back to the HB 4WD. :o
Does anyone know the full list of team drivers?? I've heard a few possibles, but nothing confirmed.

[jimmy]

yep, perhaps not the best idea I ever had to post the photo of the nice lady! :p
Skelding! of course. I heard a certain loud lad also will be driving it also.

[_sleigh_]

I heard a certain loud lad also will be driving it also.

Heard that too ;) anymore?

[Adam Skelding]

they have not connected the sensor wire on the speedo! :p

Damn. You spotted it... Look how short I cut the spedo wires ;)

Red box was not available from Nosram and LRP wanted to put their gear in it as their stand is next tours at the show..

Red box will be in the running version. It will also be in our other confirmed team driver's car for the 2007 season...

Will match his shell nicely....

Welcome to the team: Mr X..

To be honest we're well chuffed we've signed him. One of the brightest 'young' talents in off-road at the moment...

:cool:

[jimmy]

Yes. Thank you for that introduction Adam. I am really happy to be on the new HB team and look forward to climbing out of those bottom finals this year..

Oh. You didn't mean me did you :(

[Chris Doughty]

so have you got the Trumanator then? :p

[Adam Skelding]

The 'young' must have given it away....;)

No-one else is young anymore... It's all old fart's populating the A final:eh?:

[Chris Doughty]

his signature line on my website was also a clue ;) :p

[woOdy]

Well done Truman. What a fantastic guy he is and what a member to have in the HB team. This year is going to be good for Off Road. Nice one Truman/HB.:D

[woOdy]

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look. move the motor forward? and wot do u have.

[jimmy]

a mid motor academy with vaguely similar coloured alloy?

[woOdy]

a mid motor academy with vaguely similar coloured alloy?

Have you been promised a review car or what?;)

[Northy]

LMAO :p :p :p :p

[jimmy]

Nope, not at all. I can hopefully make an interesting article though whether I buy the car or not, since mr.Skelding is a nice chap and I can get some inside info possibly.

[Adam Skelding]

Nope, not at all. I can hopefully make an interesting article though whether I buy the car or not, since mr.Skelding is a nice chap and I can get some inside info possibly.

Review car.... Hmmm.... You seem to be driving the Tamiya very well. I'm not sure you need one... Muhahahahahahahahahahha
I'll talk to you after the show..... I'll see how you do with the 'EDIT' review!!!!
We'll sort something out I'm sure..

Maybe we can get your garage/spare room as full as Northy's with RC cars!!

CD: I've not seen his new signature. Maybe I need to get our graphics / web guys to hook us up with a pukka one....

[DCM]

See Jimmy, you got work coming your way... heehee

[Lee Martin]

no offence..but tht blonde bits not tht great???????

[jimmy]

and another

http://www.hbeurope.com/graphics/news/2007020101/2007020101_6.jpg

[DCM]

Crikey, look at the space on the chassis.

[jimmy]

fit a cheezeburger in there

[Adam Skelding]

no offence..but tht blonde bits not tht great???????
Body off Baywatch.....Face off Crimewatch!!!:yawn:

[Lee Martin]

dnt evevn kno if the bobfoc comes into play here.....

body off weightwatch

[jimmy]

harsh:o

[Lee Martin]

lol...................sorry blonde lady.........love u

[Mrs oOple]

Maybe we can get your garage/spare room as full as Northy's with RC cars!!


Spare room? lol, EVERY room is a toy room in our house :) And there's always room for more ;)

[Northy]

Maybe we can get your garage/spare room as full as Northy's with RC cars!!


Thanks for reminding me Adam, I need to update it, I'm up to 49 cars now :D

[Nick Goodall]

no offence..but tht blonde bits not tht great???????

Lol have to agree that the three MXrider posted were more like it :D

Good to see so many new cars, 4wd is quickly becoming like 1/8th scale - all you need now is another 10 Chassis' and it'll be equal!

Shame 2wd isn't heading in the same way yet.

[jimmy]

Adam sent me another shot- a super cool top down shot!


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We love adam, he's ace

I have to say, I'm no big fan of purple bits, but there is thankfully only a few so the car looks nice still - too many and it starts looking like a box of 'quality street'. The black motor mount is especially cool.

[OldTimer]

Is it me or does it look a tad like a BJ4WE ;)

[jimmy]

I'll give you that one :D

[WheelNut]

Are all the aluminum parts anodized black? Or is this a plastic car? Please say plastic, its just so....afforadable.

[jimmy]

I would guess anodised black but thats just a guess. The car doesn't appear to have a name yet - or at least its not been revealed. Neither has the shell (and I'm pretty sure there is one). Perhaps the design / materials might still change yet..
Or indeed they might release a 'S' version, with more plastic parts - that would be great to have two versions.

[Chris Doughty]

an 'S' verion of the car would be great for entry level 4WD racing

[Adam Skelding]

Are all the aluminum parts anodized black? Or is this a plastic car? Please say plastic, its just so....afforadable.

Anodised Black. Not placcy. But very affordable. Don't ask me the price....I won't tell you. But you'll be very suprised...in a good way!

[Adam Skelding]

Name~: Cyclone D4

[BenG]

Its a bit Bj4 ish

[jimmy]

Well spotted!
Looks good to me, and glad to see they kept with the 4WD theme of naming their car with a 4 or and X in the title. Go on, name one that doesn't:D


Moved to the shiney new HB/Hpi sub forum. Now, let's see the 2WD mr.skelding!

[BenG]

Well spotted!
Looks good to me, and glad to see they kept with the 4WD theme of naming their car with a 4 or and X in the title. Go on, name one that doesn't:D


ok
Acedemy V2 Pro :D

teamYRD SB2 :D

[woOdy]

Got u there Jim.:D You did have me with this 1 the other day.

[jimmy]

lol
amazing how many cars have em in tho eh!
Cyclone D4 - not bad, but would have liked to have seen something more crazy. like 'light shower' or 'brisk wind'

[woOdy]

When does this model expo finish?

[BenG]

lol
amazing how many cars have em in tho eh!
Cyclone D4 - not bad, but would have liked to have seen something more crazy. like 'light shower' or 'brisk wind'

or 'fart-like waft":D

The naming departments should really explore and experiment deep philosophical names.:D:D;)

[FifteenthNeo]

Slighlty off topic but this does relate to the new HB buggy amongst many others.

Isnt it a shiney time for electric off road.
I recently rekindled my interest in the sport and was pleasently surprised by both the info/forums/friendlyness available and also the choice of kits/classes too.
The WWW must have something to do with it.

Long may it continue :D;)

Nice looking buggy BTW:cool:

[jimmy]

yeah it's great. I'd like to see more entry level buggys though and certainly more 2WD ones.

[Twister]

I agree, it certainly looks like a buggy revival is around the corner. So come on Cecil where's that cat 4k? we know you've got somewhere.. Looking forward to new 2wd as well.

[Mxrider99]

http://tyrc-racing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=203


tons of pics of it there!

[Adam Skelding]

Not sure if I will be running it this weekend...at Teeside... These cars still have a couple of SLA parts on them like bumpers and batt trays.. Only one mould to finish.

Also, the body hasn't arrived.

Jimmy: I'll let you know when I'll be running it. Me and Teddy bear will get the cars at the same time...

[Thad Garner]

Also, the body hasn't arrived.

I have a stack of D4 bodies…Muhahaha

[jimmy]

:o
Don't be shy, photies - we won't say who sent them! :eh?:

[Ron Burgundy]

shame on HB...

Get a car with at least SOME originality... its just a rebadged BJ4WE...

This is me shaking my head in embarrassment for HB

If its a BJ4WE you want, buy one.. They look better, they are original and the guys who make them are awesome and the after sales support AND tech support is the best..

[myk505]

do you camplain about many of the touring cars that are made? the xray looks similar to a HB cyclone which also looks similar to a 415MSX which looks similar to the new associated to come out which looks similar to the yokomo BD which happens to look similar to the Mi2 which looks similar to a corrally. what about the kyosho belt drive which is similar to the TA05???

is it bad that the BJ4 is a good car and that layout is good? just like there are minor differences with all those touring cars, there a minor differences with the D4, whether it be the colours, topdeck shape, diffs etc. it also looks as if the motor is placed a little further back.

i dont really know why all these people are complaining about it looking similar to the BJ4, whats so bad about it?

[FifteenthNeo]

If its a BJ4WE you want, buy one.. They look better, they are original and the guys who make them are awesome

With all due respect to JConcepts who indeed make a great buggy and yourself (im not flaming, just airing an opinion ;)), where in your statement do you mention how well the BJ4WE drives. Look at the real world where we have the Jaguar X type. This apitamy of british engineering is using a Ford Mondeo chassis (not that there's anything wrong with the Mondeo)
And look at the B4 and XXX CR both 2WD buggies that, although not identical, have very similar layouts.

If its a good design, why not make a variation of it. Afterall, when a D4 crosses the finish line infront of a BJ4WE, which it obviously will at some point given the law of averages, are you gonna say the BJ4WE has had its day.

Just my 10 penneth's worth. :p

[Nick Goodall]

It's the same with F1 - To the untrained average person the entire grid of F1 cars probably looks identical but with different colours, yet one will be 3-5 seconds a lap faster then another, so tiny differences = big differences on track.

You could also argue that the Cat 3000 was the first with this layout, and actually the Losi XX4 was the first 4wd competitive car to have a motor anywhere near the front of the car, this was a massive difference to previous 4wd off road cars but is almost the norm now!

Things change and improve all the time as the years go by, it's called Evolution ;)

We're at the stage where these cars are all so good now, it's only small changes that are being made to gain every last 1/10th of a second. If you look at for instance the first Losi JRX, then the XX, XXCR, then the XXX, BK2, CR - They're fundamentally the same "design / layout" but with Geometry and slight weight distribution changes over the years hence Evolving into the current XXXCR that people are running today.

[Lee Martin]

nicks spot on....

even moving the cells mm's in different places will massively alter the cars handle. i feel. so theres no end to the amount of stuff they can do. but it will also 'look' like a BJ4 with that layout, but may not go like one....i.e, Academy??

[Adam Skelding]

I have a stack of D4 bodies…Muhahaha

Hook me up then Mr B to V.....
Or the slice of bread gets it!!!!!
And you get no more Kit Kat Chunkies

[Andy Moore]

I constantly see the argument that this layout requires the buggy to look similar....but why do the parts appear almost identical. The front arms, caster blocks, c-hubs, center slipper assembly, etc all seem to be blatant copies, not Hot Bodies spin on this particular layout.

[Ron Burgundy]

What Andy has said above is my exact point.....

It is a blatant rip off of the BJ4WE...

Evolution YES, copying the best car on the track at the moment and calling it an "EXCLUSIVE" I say NO!!!!!!

Its a shame and to be honest, is just a little bit wrong...

JConcepts have done the right thing and will continue to do so, so in a way Jason and Brad should be flattered that a company with the resources of HotBodies should basically take the blue prints and put their name on it...

Thats looking at it in a "glass half full" kinda way!

I dont think in a million years could HB back up there product the way JC do...:)

[Andy Moore]

Hot Bodies, Tamiya, and Yokomo all used BJ parts in their prototypes and use very similar looking production parts. Its true that some use them to a higher extent than others though. Two companies actually ordered parts through us.....

[jimmy]

Hpi are a big company and can certainly get more drivers into 4WD and off road electric in general with this car. There is talk of the 'other' andy moore giving this car a race this year, which might turn some other touring car drivers onto this class of racing - good for everyone!:)

[Andy Moore]

Hpi are a big company and can certainly get more drivers into 4WD and off road electric in general with this car. There is talk of the 'other' andy moore giving this car a race this year, which might turn some other touring car drivers onto this class of racing - good for everyone!:)


Thats is definately the best outlook for this car, and if its able to do that, then great!

[Adam Skelding]

I constantly see the argument that this layout requires the buggy to look similar....but why do the parts appear almost identical. The front arms, caster blocks, c-hubs, center slipper assembly, etc all seem to be blatant copies, not Hot Bodies spin on this particular layout.

Please remind me where all this lot came from on the Original BJ4:

Castor Blocks & Knuckles (Losi).
Sipper: B4.
Front and Rear Wishbones: B4.
Drivetrain: TC3.

Hairs could be split all day on which came first, the chicken or the egg.

There are subtle differences all over the car.....

[Richard Lowe]

Sipper: B4
The slipper was bespoke hehe ;)

[BradR]

Please remind me where all this lot came from on the Original BJ4:

Castor Blocks & Knuckles (Losi).
Sipper: B4.
Front and Rear Wishbones: B4.
Drivetrain: TC3.

Hairs could be split all day on which came first, the chicken or the egg.

There are subtle differences all over the car.....

Like you said, hairs could be split all day. I'm not going to dwell on the subject, but I want to point out the inaccuracies contained in your post:

Caster Blocks - JConcepts (they're not just Losi pieces made from aluminum, the dimensions are different)
Knuckles - Losi (correct)
Slipper - JConcepts (the design was similar to the B3 slipper, but the only common part was the center bushing)
Wishbones - B4 (correct)
Drivetrain - Modified TC3 (slipper input shaft, one-way drive cup, NTC3 outdrives, and machined housings)

With that said, it's not most important point. The original BJ4 was designed to use as many Associated parts as possible. The whole idea was to make an Associated based 4WD off-road car, because they don't make one themselves. We also buy those parts from Associated to package in our kits, so Associated gets recognition and profits from us using their parts. We didn't just copy and existing car, add some subtle differences, and put our name on it.

[jimmy]

A higher res pic of the final car as sent by mr.Skelding

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/skeldingsd401.jpg

[stefke]

Nice car, although the cheap looking plastic battery retainers ruin the CF look. Shame. Would it be that expensive to use CF for these parts like on the BJ4, TRF501, ...

Another thing : given my recent experiences with HPI cars, I would choose the BJ4 over this anytime if I wanted a shaft driven 4wd. It's branded Hotbodies, but they are essentially the same company as HPI and the drivetrain is taken from the HPI Pro4. I've seen some serious quality, design and reliability issues with recent HPI cars (the HPI Baja and MT2 come to mind).

[Adam Skelding]

Nice car, although the cheap looking plastic battery retainers ruin the CF look. Shame. Would it be that expensive to use CF for these parts like on the BJ4, TRF501, ...

Another thing : given my recent experiences with HPI cars, I would choose the BJ4 over this anytime if I wanted a shaft driven 4wd. It's branded Hotbodies, but they are essentially the same company as HPI and the drivetrain is taken from the HPI Pro4. I've seen some serious quality, design and reliability issues with recent HPI cars (the HPI Baja and MT2 come to mind).

The gearboxes have been re-designed specifically for the Off-Road car.

Battery Retainers: Cheap looking, but ultimately stong.. C/F... Yes... possible.
price increase to the end user.....definate......performance advantage... negligable.

[mark christopher]

Adam arnt the plastic ones moulded, giving a more secure battery mount?

did you see my post re your worksop date and clash?

[Adam Skelding]

Adam arnt the plastic ones moulded, giving a more secure battery mount?

did you see my post re your worksop date and clash?

Correct. They have moulded retainers holding the cells firmly in place, whether you have the cells in the forward or back position.

[Nick Goodall]

I love the fact that nobody's really seen one in the flesh, let alone going round a track yet seem to pick holes in the weirdest / smallest things they can think of?? Is there some sort of conspiracy or something :D

[mark christopher]

think you may find adam has seen one!

[Nick Goodall]

:D Really? Yes i know that, it's not Adam i'm talking about - it's the people that seem set on slagging the car before even seeing one in the flesh let alone out on track.

[Adam Skelding]

I love the fact that nobody's really seen one in the flesh, let alone going round a track yet seem to pick holes in the weirdest / smallest things they can think of?? Is there some sort of conspiracy or something :D

I know. Fun ain't it, how people can judge a book by it's cover..?:D

Well. If anyone is interested. My shell has been finished by the wonderful Telsshells. Highly Recommened... Photos tomorrow....

This weekend I'll be going to Coventry to run it (weather permitting), then Batley / Tiverton on the 4th.
Worksop on the 18th.
and plenty of test days in between.

[stefke]

Hey, I'm not trying to slash the new car and I'm sure the plastic battery straps work fine. I'm just pointing out that it looks out of place on an completely CF car. It's more of a BLING thing ;)

About design flaws and poor part quality of HPI : I'm still getting over my MT2 experience (a complete disaster in terms of track reliability, I'm very happy it's sold). I also have a Baja 5b and my opinion remains that it shows some serious design flaws like unacceptable wheel rub, easely torn tyres, desintegrating tyre inserts, bending shock shafts, ... but I'm happy to see that HPI is slowly addressing those issues.

[Moose]

can t wait to see the shell :)

[telboy]

Adam let me have a sneaky preview of one last night.
It looks a ver imperssive car indeed and doesn't look that 'cheap' in the flesh. I painted a shell for it but it wasn't the finished design so I aint sayin nowt!;) But the Proto look swish! some very nice ideas on the shell and the car too.

I'm not saying too much cos I don't want to let owt out but there are still other things being looked at for the productions version, I think.

[Adam Skelding]

Here she is:
My New Ride.....

BIG Thanks to Tellshells for the paint job...

[jimmy]

Niceeeeeeee. Looks great mate!

[Nick Goodall]

Love the shark/Ferrari style Gills at the back - very nice!

[DCM]

looks nice, my only concern is the roof line looks BJ4WE(ish) and people will be more convinced it is a clone, otherwise, nice shell.

[GRIFF55]

you can find pics of the hb prototype athttp://www.hbeurope.com/kit.php?partNo=4wd&lang=en
hope this is enough eye candy!!

[James]

Adz that looks awesomen mate, i want one :);):p badly...

PS. Spot on paint by Terry also :cool: !!!!!

[joffacn]

I hear from an Aus hobby shop they are not expecting stock until May?

That is a LONGGGG wait.

Jeff

[Chrissy C]

Ths car is really tempting me for this years Regionals!

Adam, any word/rumour when the kits will reach the UK shelves? Any more pics with the latest shell/undertray & front wing to tide us over :)

Thanks
Chris

[Bathy]

Here she is:
My New Ride.....

BIG Thanks to Tellshells for the paint job...

Looks nice that, one silly question, what's the #46 for?

[stefke]

Looks nice that, one silly question, what's the #46 for?


big fan of Valentino Rossi ?

[DCM]

I don't see a 46, I see a Hb... Hotbodies...

[ashleyb4]

The new hot bodiies looks awsome and i like adams paint job.

A

[kentech]

Found this pic on a Japanese site. Nice paint!

[jimmy]

big fan of Valentino Rossi ?

I think he (adam) even managed to wrangle the #46 BRCA number - how he did that no one knows!! (dirty boy)

[telboy]

yep thats the finished shell. you may notice little detail change here and there.
I've just finished painting adams final shell and would put some pics up but my web hoster is being a pain in the arse so I can't get pics on the site.:(

[joffacn]

Hi

Is there a good amount of space under that body for Brushless and Lipos?
What size servo LxBXH?
Does the Rx need to be a Mini size?

Thanks Jeff

[Adam Skelding]

Looks nice that, one silly question, what's the #46 for?

#46 Yup. Big VR fan, from back when he rode 125's like a god...

Also: My BRCA# is......46...... Muhahahahaha.

[Adam Skelding]

Hi

Is there a good amount of space under that body for Brushless and Lipos?
What size servo LxBXH?
Does the Rx need to be a Mini size?

Thanks Jeff

Plenty of room for Brushless and Lipo (Split Pack).
I have the Nosram ISTC which is about as bis as you'll get..
Standard size radio gear all fits.... Just my radio has the micro rec and halfheight servo.
:cool:

[Arn0]

Plenty of room for Brushless and Lipo (Split Pack).
I have the Nosram ISTC which is about as bis as you'll get..
Standard size radio gear all fits.... Just my radio has the micro rec and halfheight servo.
:cool:

Maybe those two pics will illustrate your setting? :wtf:

Adam setting:

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/skeldingsd401.jpg
Message # 213 of this thread (http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=26216&postcount=213)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/spy-hotbodiesd4/bigimages/NO5E2433.jpg
Oople - Spyshot - Hot Bodies D4 (http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/spy-hotbodiesd4/)

Basic radio setting:

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/hbcar02.jpg
Message # 177 of this thread (http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23355&postcount=177)

[mark christopher]

adam is there an undertray with the body kit?

[telboy]

eyup mark, yes there is. and apparently its quite a nice fit too.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4122/dscf3136dj6.jpg

Its all done adam!;)

[Adam Skelding]

Freaking Pimp!!!!:) :) :) :) :) :: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


Tel: You am de man

[Adam Skelding]

As for the electrics.
There's plenty of room on the motor side for the Rec... I was thinking about mounting mine there.....
Believe me there's plenty of room...

I had a touring car moment and tried to make it all fit on one side....

[Thad Garner]

Freaking Pimp!!!!:) :) :) :) :) :: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


Tel: You am de man


Flippin' Sweet!

[telboy]

thanks, I did it you in white too, after our 'chrome' moment!:D :D
:o


hmm, stick to bodyshell you will! hmm.
http://static.flickr.com/8/9754937_280686ac96.jpg

[Adam Skelding]

hmmmm.
When 900 bodyshells you have painted, as good as this yours will look me thinks.
hu-hu-hu

;)