Whos racing what?

[chris brown]

I'm thinking touring car or mini.
Others?

[wes j.]

Who are you :confused::lol:.

[chris brown]

The man from Del Monte and I say ......................... "yes"

[wes j.]

Most people this winter are going mardave/supastock crazy. Touring and minis are dead :lol:.

[Dave Dodd]

i'm running a supastox but there will still be quite a few running tourers as ardent has now gone.
John (smurfster) is trying to get all the tourers to run 13.5 stock for some close racing.. :)

[Smurfster]

Tourers though till the last series then breaking out the off road to get ready for next summer.

[chris brown]

Most people this winter are going mardave/supastock crazy. Touring and minis are dead :lol:.



Looks like I've won again then.:thumbsup:

[jono222]

sticking with the buggies indoor too me thinks

[The Doctor]

Thinking about dusting off the rally car and running that in Outlaw (or Off-Road if the authorities will let me). Need to make a chassis to take the LiPos first though.

[chris brown]

That sounds good. I liked the rally cars when we did them on rally tyres with proper rally car bodies.

[Dave Dodd]

Thinking about dusting off the rally car and running that in Outlaw (or Off-Road if the authorities will let me). Need to make a chassis to take the LiPos first though.

That sounds good. I liked the rally cars when we did them on rally tyres with proper rally car bodies.

if you want dust off your rally cars and race them please create a basic set of rules (motor, body type & tyres etc) so others can join the fun and i will create a sub series championship to the outlaw class. :)

I will be doing the same with the gt12 (13.5, 21.5 & g2).
means i can keep tabs on who's using what. :lol:

a bit like the le mans series, were you have the overall championships and then the sub class championships.

[The Doctor]

Not fussed about a sub-championship personally, but I'm always up for a trophy opportunity so how about the following. Principle is to keep the rules as simple as possible:

Any 190mm/200mm touring / rally car chassis
Any recognised rally saloon car bodyshell
Treaded touring car size rubber tyres (no slicks, no foams, no buggy size wheels) with at least some visible tread remaining
Min 15mm ride height at full droop (basically, if it's on the deck then it ain't a rally car mate!)
Any motor, any battery, no weight limit.

Better check my yok fits these criteria now!

Chris - dust yours off too mate!

[Smurfster]

That's what I call an idea for a championship!!! :)

[Chris56]

That's what I call an idea for a championship!!! :)

So could we see a return of the old HPI Rally?

[Dave Dodd]

Not fussed about a sub-championship personally, but I'm always up for a trophy opportunity so how about the following. Principle is to keep the rules as simple as possible:

Any 190mm/200mm touring / rally car chassis
Any recognised rally saloon car bodyshell
Treaded touring car size rubber tyres (no slicks, no foams, no buggy size wheels) with at least some visible tread remaining
Min 15mm ride height at full droop (basically, if it's on the deck then it ain't a rally car mate!)
Any motor, any battery, no weight limit.

Better check my yok fits these criteria now!

Chris - dust yours off too mate!

them rules will do :lol:

i guess it doesnt matter if its 2wd or 4wd either?

[cunawarit]

Yay! I got an old Tamiya right here that fits those rules. :thumbsup:

But let me guess, everyone will run 5.5t motors and do two hundred bazillion MPH. Right? ;)

[Robbiejuk]

Yay! I got an old Tamiya right here that fits those rules. :thumbsup:

But let me guess, everyone will run 5.5t motors and do two hundred bazillion MPH. Right? ;)

Doubt it, well actually John might.

I would have thought the last thing you would want would be massive speed if your car is planning on going sideways at every corner.

[reg]

Doubt it, well actually John might.

I would have thought the last thing you would want would be massive speed if your car is planning on going sideways at every corner.

unless your name is martin:woot:

[Dave Dodd]

unless your name is martin:woot:

yh but he wouldnt have a ride height of 15mm, he doesnt have that much on his buggy :lol:

[Smurfster]

Doubt it, well actually John might.

I would have thought the last thing you would want would be massive speed if your car is planning on going sideways at every corner.

Should be fun with the 4.5t in, should spin the wheels up entering a corner!!! :) hehehe

[Garry]

Whoa, Rally? I'm in!

*off to scour ebay for a Losi Rally Weapon*

[Smurfster]

Whoa, Rally? I'm in!

*off to scour ebay for a Losi Rally Weapon*

New shape focus shell ordered!!! :)

[The Doctor]

Wow, nice to see some interest in a Rally class. Great, should be good. I'm running my old HPI Focus shell on my Yokomo MR4-Rally, so hopefully it'll handle the brushless/LiPo power. Back in '98 when I bought it things were a little different! Think I have some Tamiya Rally Block tyres somewhere, and some of the Schumacher Yellow rally tyres.

I'm running my 6.5 just because it's the only motor I have, but I may turn the power down to save the drivetrain.

And yes Dave, 2WD or 4WD, it doesn't matter. That way if I snap a belt I'll still qualify!!!m :woot:

Would be good to see a few of them running around the track.

[Aran]

Not many buggies racing then :'(. Guess I'll have to look into getting an indoor car!

[reg]

Im sure i can get some rally blocks and a rally shell on my superstox:thumbsup:


saves me selling it:woot:


What makes and models are you all running?

[cunawarit]

Not many buggies racing then :'(. Guess I'll have to look into getting an indoor car!

I plan to run my buggy, the old rally car I have is really a backup plan...

Is there usually time for someone to run in two classes, or is it way too hectic?

What makes and models are you all running?

Rally wise all I have is a rather old TL01 with some basic upgrades like alloy oil filled shocks, sway bars, and adjustable camber links... Motor wise, I'd be going very very very slow brushed with it. So I'll be running last :)

[The Doctor]

Reg - superstox? Do they have a 15mm ride height and 190mm/200mm wide?

Cunawarit - running 2 classes is possible, but is a bit manic if you're marshalling 2 heats & racing 2 heats on a night with only 4 or 5 heats!

[Garry]

Whoa, Rally? I'm in!

*off to scour ebay for a Losi Rally Weapon*

Hmm, well that didnt go to plan, seeing as I smashed the B-I-N button on a Tamiya FF03 :woot: Wonder if I can jack up the shocks and try to avoid wheelspinning all the front tyre tread away....

[The Doctor]

Well, bring it along and give it a run - the more the merrier.

[cunawarit]

Just out of curiosity, what tyres will you guys be running for the rally cars?

I still intend to be running my buggy, but just in case everyone running rally cars :) I'm leaning towards thinking that too much grip with narrow TL01, with a high ride height is a bad idea...

Anyone tried this? http://www.modelsport.co.uk/fastrax-1-10th-touring-wheel-rally-block-5-spoke-white/rc-car-products/365690

[The Doctor]

Whatever's in the pit box. Probably either Tamiya/HPI Rally Blocks or equivalent treaded tyres. NO SLICKS! I wouldn't worry too much about grip roll - just choose some harder compound tyres to get it sliding around a bit. :)

In reality I think there'll only be 2-3 rally cars though.

[cunawarit]

Whatever's in the pit box. Probably either Tamiya/HPI Rally Blocks or equivalent treaded tyres. NO SLICKS! I wouldn't worry too much about grip roll - just choose some harder compound tyres to get it sliding around a bit. :)

In reality I think there'll only be 2-3 rally cars though.

OK cool :) What's in my pitbox is so old it is coming apart in my hands :)

2 or 3? OK :)

[Robbiejuk]

Not many buggies racing then :'(. Guess I'll have to look into getting an indoor car!

I wouldn't worry about Aran, I will be racing buggies and I have a sneaking suspision that after Series 1 there will be a boat load of GT12 on ebay and more people racing buggies :lol:

[rossiracer]

hi can anyone tell me when the indoor season starts plz going to run my superstox

[Chris56]

hi can anyone tell me when the indoor season starts plz going to run my superstox

Next friday (7th sept). Doors open at 6, racing to start around 7 (or when we get the track out!)

[Robbiejuk]

Next friday (7th sept). Doors open at 6, racing to start around 7 (or when we get the track out!)

Please note that nobody will be allowed to bring their equipment into the hall until the carpet has been laid down. We need to carpet the whole hall to prevent damage to the new sports floor hall so you will have to wait until the carpet is laid and taped.

[wes j.]

I wouldn't worry about Aran, I will be racing buggies and I have a sneaking suspision that after Series 1 there will be a boat load of GT12 on ebay and more people racing buggies :lol:

I've got the supastock but will be racing the buggy to start with :).

[Aran]

what time will you be there friday? ill try get down early to get the carpet down if I can

[The Doctor]

Well, chassis for the rally car has been made (so the LiPos fit!), car has been re-built and the electrics installed. Will fire it up tomorrow evening to check everything works fine.

Only obvious problem at the moment is that my left rear shock is losing oil even when the car's not running. Dodgy o-ring seal. Just like a real Focus!

[The Doctor]

It works! :)

[cunawarit]

Well, chassis for the rally car has been made (so the LiPos fit!), car has been re-built and the electrics installed. Will fire it up tomorrow evening to check everything works fine.

Lucky you, because I've decided that for now I'm not cutting the chassis to get lipos to fit (TL-01, rounded hole).

Nearly there :) As I just managed to wreck pinion grub screw... I have a new body though, also a 15t motor, as well as wheels and tires. Old shocks and everything else seems OK...

At the last second went the Scuby route, I suspected there might be too many Foci (is that the plural?).

PS: So yeah, TL-01, I'm keeping with the theme of racing a wholly unsuitable car :) Wait till I take up truck racing... Tamiya Lunchbox FTW ;)

[cunawarit]

Erm... I actually ended up with a substantially higher ride height on the rally car than the buggy... :blush:

[The Doctor]

I'll be up for some Lunchbox racing! I've heard they handle like a dream. Or was it a nightmare? Anyway, sounds fun! :lol:

I also have more ride height on the Rally car than on my old Cougar SV I think, so don't worry about that!

Sounds like we're going to have at least McRae (me), Hirvonen (John) and Solberg (is yours a 2003 Impreza?) on the track. Think I might book in as Dr McRae for this series. :lol:

[cunawarit]

I spent half the summer trying to not grip roll a buggy! I can't imagine I'll do that well with a Lunchbox.

I have a McRae bodyshell, but didn't want to destroy it. So now I have a 2003 Impreza.

[Robbiejuk]

there should be a special prize for the first person to turn up with a Group B bodyshell on. That would be mint.

Lancia 037 anybody..

[The Doctor]

Yeah! I think you can get an Audi Quattro shell (can't remember who makes it) but I'm not sure how good it is. Haven't seen any 037s though. Can you get them? Wedding anniversay on Monday - might have to put a special order in. A bodyshell is about as exciting as it gets these days. :bored:

[reg]

I'll be up for some Lunchbox racing! :lol:


Make sure you lock the toilet doors first:woot:

[cunawarit]

Make sure you lock the toilet doors first:woot:

I don't even want to think about that... anywhoooooo, here's the rally car nearly ready with my other slow coach:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8455/7940453872_3dccf4c527_c.jpg

Will probably want to drive the rally car car in between rounds on Friday if that's OK... I have no idea at all how it drives yet, I want to make sure it gets round the track :)

[Dave Dodd]

looks cool Gui..
it'll get round the track fine. :D
unless we are low on numbers, we tend not to have a braek between rounds,.

[The Doctor]

Make sure you lock the toilet doors first:woot:

Oops, I now realise the implications of that post. :blush:

[Aran]

I still have grass everywhere on my buggy, think a clean is in order..................

[cunawarit]

I still have grass everywhere on my buggy, think a clean is in order..................

Tell me about it! As you can see on the pic above I have been through the process of cleaning it... Wet grass racing is a blast, but part of me never wanted to race on grass ever again.

[university_dave]

there should be a special prize for the first person to turn up with a Group B bodyshell on. That would be mint.

Lancia 037 anybody..

Only fits a mini chassis, but how about this;

http://www.akularacing.co.uk/portfolio/turbo-5/

[cunawarit]

Only fits a mini chassis, but how about this;

http://www.akularacing.co.uk/portfolio/turbo-5/

WOW! :woot: I've always promised myself that if I am ever rich I'd buy an R5 Turbo! I don't care if it never works, just to sit in it and make vrooom vroooom noises.

[The Doctor]

Yep, liking that lots!

Also love this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-body-shell-Ford-Escort-mk2-1-10-scale-/180967429806?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item2a227fd6ae

[The Doctor]

Oooh, just found this site. Shame the 1/10 S1 Quattro has sold out though:

http://www.rcbodyshop.fr/bodyshells/b-group-rally-cars-bodyshells.html

[The Doctor]

Well, here's some pics of the Focus ready for action. It's seen better days and my window-masking skills have definitely improved since I did this shell (very non-OCD), but it'll do for now.

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/DrPRN/Yokomo%20MR4/DSC_0015.jpg

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/DrPRN/Yokomo%20MR4/DSC_0013.jpg

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/DrPRN/Yokomo%20MR4/DSC_0011.jpg

[Dave Dodd]

Oooh, just found this site. Shame the 1/10 S1 Quattro has sold out though:

http://www.rcbodyshop.fr/bodyshells/b-group-rally-cars-bodyshells.html

this one
http://www.rcbodyshop.fr/carrosseries/carrosseries-voitures-rallye-groupe-b/carrosserie-1-10-lexan-chevron-sport-quattro-s1.html

they all look cool.. :D

[The Doctor]

Linky no worky Dave. You mean this one?

http://www.rcbodyshop.fr/bodyshells/b-group-rally-cars-bodyshells/carrosserie-1-10-lexan-chevron-sport-quattro-s1.html

I fancy getting this and making a 1/10 replica of the S3:

http://www.rcbodyshop.fr/bodyshells/toutes/carrosserie-audi-a3-190mm.html

Moulding isn't great, but I reckon it would look OK.

[Frecklychimp]

http://www.controlfreax.com/news.aspx

unfortunately i think they have given up on r/c bodyshells :cry:

might be worth an e.mail though.

Metro 6R4 FTW :wub

[Robbiejuk]

Linky no worky Dave. You mean this one?

http://www.rcbodyshop.fr/bodyshells/b-group-rally-cars-bodyshells/carrosserie-1-10-lexan-chevron-sport-quattro-s1.html

I fancy getting this and making a 1/10 replica of the S3:

http://www.rcbodyshop.fr/bodyshells/toutes/carrosserie-audi-a3-190mm.html

Moulding isn't great, but I reckon it would look OK.

Lancia 037 on that site is availiable, looks a bit boxy though :cry:

[cunawarit]

Lancia 037 on that site is availiable, looks a bit boxy though :cry:

Their selection is amazing, but yeah some only vaguely resemble the cars they are meant to be...

Thinking outside the box a little, Shelby Mustang GT350 from HPI:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/mustang4.jpg

It was a rally car :)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/mustang1.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/mustang2.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/mustang3.jpg

[cunawarit]

After seeing how hard them walls are to hit I think I'd rather have a shell of a car I couldn't give two hoots about... An empty bottle of semi-skimmed maybe. :D

[Aran]

Good night of close racing guys! :D

[Chris56]

Good night of close racing guys! :D

Definately - great to be indoors again on a large track, certainly gave the 6.5 a good run!

[Aran]

Not getting grass stuck in my hubs helps massively! Just need some cooling now

[Dave Dodd]

I think the 1st night back indoors went really well :D

Aran - your car looks a lot better without the grass stopping the wheels going round :lol:

bring on next week :thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

Yes Aran, I'm impressed! I had gotten used to seeing your car run quickly for a few laps an then almost spin uselessly on the spot ;)

I need some cooling as well, my motor has never run hotter!... Also need a couple of new wheel bearings, totally smashed them to bits against the wall.

[Chris56]

Also need a couple of new wheel bearings, totally smashed them to bits against the wall.

I've got quite a few spare in - you can have a look next friday if you like.

I was having to brake hard for that first corner - normally when I help set out the track I try and build that corner before anybody else gets to it and I make the track 5m wide - just so I don't have to brake!
Now that i've foolishly admitted to this I suspect the powers that be will be keeping a watchful over me:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Aran]

It was nice to be to run for 5minutes haha.

Braking on my esc seems not be working, last year on carpet it would lock the wheels so turned it down to 80% but now it's not :S, so yeah chris let's keep it 5metres wide ;)

[Smurfster]

I like the extra pit space!!!

[reg]

Ill be skidding the SS round,thought id give you all a head start:p

[Dave Dodd]

I like the extra pit space!!!
omg how much space did you need.. lmao.. it was like someone had put a grenade in your pit bag lol

Ill be skidding the SS round,thought id give you all a head start:p
nice one :D . you'll be fine, tire additive on the back is all thats required and turn the d/r down on the steering but you'll soon have that turned back up..

im going to try a 29t pinion (30t at mo) might let the motor spin up more..
and put the red o-rings back on for rd3 + final, when the grips up..

[cunawarit]

I've got quite a few spare in - you can have a look next friday if you like.

Cool :) I'll take a look through my spares and if I can't find anything I'll take a look through yours, cheers...

[The Doctor]

Not racing this week, but have replaced the rear belt & pulley that stripped last Friday (hence FWD in last round) and have set up the ESC to reduce the power to protect the gearbox. Will also be running Tamiya Rally Blocks next week - the Schumacher yellow rally blocks were way too grippy for the car with that ride height, hence the really crappy handling & mega obsession with grip roll last week. I WILL GET IT TO HANDLE!

[cunawarit]

I actually liked your grip rolling, gave me some hope ;) (only kidding, with a brushed TL01 I have no hope at all)

My rally car still isn't ready, although I did fashion some bumpers out of packing foam, old body posts, and bottle tops :lol: Really the only thing missing is to fix some "crappy" soldering that I did that didn't hold up :blush: Will surely have it done in two weeks :) May give it a go then... But really, if you were grip rolling, then the TL01 with its super high CG brick like chassis will be no fun.

As far as the slowtastic Traxxas buggy, I finally got fed up of the wing wire and fitted a Mad Rat wing mount to it. No more driving round with a collapsed wing, or worse still no wing at all... Even though I am sure it is easier to find indoors I didn't fancy that again.

Also replaced the wheel bearings (found some spares, had a whole set!), ran two rounds of qualifying and a final with a massively wobbly wheel... I'm amazed the whole thing didn't shake itself apart! Well it nearly did, as a wheel nut literally fell into my hand as inspected the damage after the final!

[The Doctor]

I reckon the TL-01 will be fine. I've turned the speedo right down now and loaded the setup software onto my laptop so I can alter the settings during the meeting next week. Running out of excuses now... :blush:

[cunawarit]

It better be fine, coz I may be racing it this Friday!

I've just noticed that the slipper on my buggy is totally kaput. When I say kaput I don't mean it slips too much or anything like that, I mean the spur now sits on it so badly it got chewed up!

I've never had such a long list of things that needed replacing after a race! :(

[cunawarit]

I reckon the TL-01 will be fine.

No, it wasn't... This is what it looked like after every corner!

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Capture-7.jpg

:( :( :(

Quite a frustrating time.

Seemed OK at first, I then I don't know if it picked up the additive left on the track, or the track got warmer, or the tires got grippier as they wore... But WAY to much grip.

[Dave Dodd]

I've some budget radial tyres and rims in the shop will bring them along next week, I think there a little harder so less grip.

[cunawarit]

I've some budget radial tyres and rims in the shop will bring them along next week, I think there a little harder so less grip.

Cool :) thanks.

[Smurfster]

Well the rally car is half set, found an old m tronics Speedo and servo so just gotta sort shocks and shell and its ready to rock and roll!!

[cunawarit]

Well the rally car is half set, found an old m tronics Speedo and servo so just gotta sort shocks and shell and its ready to rock and roll!!

Awesome. Is that a Digi Sport Max RV? Same as I have in my rally car :)

BTW, this is on Ebay right now: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-1-10th-scale-escort-cosworth-wrc-body-shell-and-box-/120984789164

I thought it might be your style ;) But probably too narrow, right? Is your car 200mm?

[The Doctor]

Nice one John. I've now got the speedo turned down, Tamiya Rally Blocks mounted, Subaru Impreza shell (Focus is 190mm and tyres were rubbing...), shocks rebuilt and loads of other tweaks so hopefully it'll run better this week.

Interested to see how you get on with the Schumacher Yellows. Way too much for my Yok.

[cunawarit]

I've attempted to reduce the grip rolling by adding some ballast inside the chassis at the bottom under the ESC placement. And to reduce the steering a bit (was running it at 40% and it was still twitchy!) I've added a stiff stabilizer bar at the front... I don't have springs for it, but I did have a sway bar laying around. My thinking is that it will stiffen the front enough...

I'm probably wrong... :confused:

Also the Traxxas is fixed :D Will attempt to run two classes.

[Dave Dodd]

another possible idea would be to reverse the chassis (motor at front not back), like they do to drift cars then this would allow the car to break traction easier.

[The Doctor]

Majority of it is in the tyres though - just bung some Tamiya Rally Blocks on and it'll make a big difference. Then you can fine-tune it via suspension set-up. Mine was a 'mare until I put the Tamiya blocks on it.

[cunawarit]

I agree with you, putting Tamiya rally blocks is considerably simpler than reversing the chassis. Because I really cannot see how on earth I'd mount the steering system with the motor at the front.

The issue is too much grip right now, it actually runs really nicely on car parks.

[The Doctor]

Yeah mine ran really nicely outside with the Schumacher Yellows on, but inside... :mad: