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[dave p hall]

one thing i have noticed,and have been guilty of it myself,but don't do it now.don't touch your control's when a marshal is putting your car back on track.not nice if your the marshal;)let him/her get there hand's clear first:)just think its worth pointing out.

[Garry Driffill]

I had some eager beaver do this to me and hurt my thumb a year or so ago indoor at york. It bloody hurt ! :lol:

[mole2k]

Thats one thing that really annoys me when marshaling. If I make a mistake I dont touch the controls untill the car has been set down and the marshal is clear. It's just really ignorant to keep the throttle planted while on your lid...

[ashleyb4]

I think it sok to rev your motor if your stuck upsidedown and trying to get the marshall attension if there looking the other way but as soon as the marshall runs towards it you should be on full brake until they have put you down.

A

[ben]

I saw someone do this to greg williams yesterday :thumbdown:

[James]

I think generally the quality of marshalling is BAD, its something thats struck me since i've started racing again..

A lot of folks just seem to sit there thinking about the previous race they've just had rather than where they are now and being alert and ready to correct a car as soon as possible, a number of drivers rev the car to get marshalls attention though..

If you want to see how to be a good marshall watch Andy Fraser, he's the master.. I do try hard myself though..

Everyone should try harder and be more alert to what's hapening and where a car is likely to crash and be ready.

We should give trophies/rewards or something for good marshalling..tricky one to penalise bad marshalling unless its blatent.

[ashleyb4]

James you should try micro thats worse. Craig harris is really good at marshalling He is like a coilled spring ready to pounce.:p:p:p


A

[AaronR]

I think it's ok to rev your motor if your stuck upsidedown and trying to get the marshall attention if there looking the other way but as soon as the marshall runs towards it you should be on full brake until they have put you down.

A

This is plenty acceptable and how it should be done. If a car has any throttle on while I marshal, I make myself heard by pretty much YELLING, "LAY OFF THE THROTTLE!"

[ashleyb4]

At regionals and club i wont marshall the car if there on the trottle but at naionals i just marshall it because i dont want to get in trouble.

[rcracer]

At regionals and club i wont marshall the car if there on the trottle but at naionals i just marshall it because i dont want to get in trouble.

i dont think it matters what level it is ash they shouldnt be revving the throttle while your hands are anywere near it :thumbdown:

[bert digler]

I think it sok to rev your motor if your stuck upsidedown and trying to get the marshall attension if there looking the other way but as soon as the marshall runs towards it you should be on full brake until they have put you down.

A

ash if you rev your car mate it will only piss the marshall off it does me and also you stand a chance of blowing out them tires:lol:

[Sabben]

Hm... Actually I have never thought about this. Good tip, I must say!

I will doubtless have this in mind next time when I am marshalling, and driving of course! It is silly to yell at someone when you do the same stupid thing yourself!;)

[Southwell]

It's the people that rev it even when you've seen it that annoys me, then even when they brake the front wheels are still spinning. If they rev it when im just about to pick it up i wait until they stop, if they rev it when i have it in my hand ill have a word afterwards.

[reg]

when i raced nitro we reved it to get there attentionas you say then just put the brakes on,some times you have to blip the throttle to stop the engine stopping,if a car was reving the engine we would just leave it:mad:,if they reved it up before you put it down than next time they needed turning over just do it with your foot,:thumbsup:
mark

[PaulRotheram]

It's the people that rev it even when you've seen it that annoys me, then even when they brake the front wheels are still spinning. If they rev it when im just about to pick it up i wait until they stop, if they rev it when i have it in my hand ill have a word afterwards.

If they rev it in my hands, it gets dropped. No matter which position it's in, hopefuly at an angle likely to break it to teach them a lesson! :thumbdown:

[AndyM]

I was suprised, but i had to marshal a car that did this in the A final at South Shields yesterday. I'm not going to name and shame him, but i thought the driver was above this sort of thing :thumbdown:

For some reason i picked it up though :thumbdown:

I think what Ashely said is acceptable though.

[Chrislong]

If someone is revving the car when you need to marshall it, then don't touch it..... it could be the worlds championships, don't touch it guys, it'll burn for weeks and probably scar!!

At Oswestry, Chis Bowater crashed just before the loop on the last lap where I was marshalling, I could see his adrenalin was at peak and I was as quick as could be, but he applied full throttle a fraction too soon and a tyre caught my wrist slightly, only very slightly, and im sure Boggy didn't mean it as I know he's not like that, so I said nothing, but it left a slight mark which stung like a small burn.... it just shows how much the spinning tyres can hurt if the tyre is in full contact with skin.

I get very frustrated when I crash, and I used to apply throttle in frustration at myself. I now wiggle my steering instead. Although to get somebodies attention I may give the throttle a blast but get on the brakes once seen.

Chris

[Chrislong]

If you want to see how to be a good marshall watch Andy Fraser, he's the master.. I do try hard myself though..


No there should not be awards for good marshalling, just penalties for lack of care when marshalling although how is that judged? it can't be. The top and bottom of it is, we shouldn't crash (but we do). Andy Fraser is very alert, and his speed is exagerated by the length of his limbs!

As long as we all marshall as we'd like to be marshalled, then it'll be better. There are many who shout and are impatient, sometimes while the car is still rolling! yet as a marshall, puts no effort in and doesn't like to be shouted at for it.

[bert digler]

If someone is revving the car when you need to marshall it, then don't touch it..... it could be the worlds championships, don't touch it guys, it'll burn for weeks and probably scar!!

At Oswestry, Chis Bowater crashed just before the loop on the last lap where I was marshalling, I could see his adrenalin was at peak and I was as quick as could be, but he applied full throttle a fraction too soon and a tyre caught my wrist slightly, only very slightly, and im sure Boggy didn't mean it as I know he's not like that, so I said nothing, but it left a slight mark which stung like a small burn.... it just shows how much the spinning tyres can hurt if the tyre is in full contact with skin.

I get very frustrated when I crash, and I used to apply throttle in frustration at myself. I now wiggle my steering instead. Although to get somebodies attention I may give the throttle a blast but get on the brakes once seen.

Chris
i saw a car lobbed in a bush for this hilarious the driver was furious :lol:

[CharlieF]

I am pleased to say I saw some good marshalling at Oswestry in the form of Andy Carter who has just returned to the scene. He clearly has not lost any of his driving skill as his "B" final demonstrates but he happened to be marshalling in front of me during a race I was watching and he was alert and ready to pounce on any car in difficulty every time they came past his spot.
I did think at the time - how good would this sport be if all marshals were like that!

[ashleyb4]

your girl chris it doesnt hurt that much :p

A

[Chrislong]

Oh, well if you want to test my pain fresh-hold against yours, then game-on!

[Mrs oOple]

I had a scar on my hand for ages where Jimmys car burned me at Tiverton a few years ago, as I was about to put his car down for the final it suffered interference, and the rear tyre tore into my hand. It was painful for quite a while! Yuk, dirty tyre burn.:thumbdown:

[_JP_]

ha you girls should try marshaling the 8th :)

to be fair if no one is looking I would rev to get attention, but always break ASAP as to not harm anyone.

In the 8th I will not pick a car up thats revving I just stand there until they stop , and so do a lot of people if they want to come and see me after thats fine :woot:

[James]

No there should not be awards for good marshalling

Stop being grumpy ;)

I'll donate an enormous chocolate bar to the best marshall at Tally..

[Chrislong]

Stop being grumpy ;)

I'll donate an enormous chocolate bar to the best marshall at Tally..

LOL, Can I request Bourneville? Mmmmmmmmh

[Mrs oOple]

Stop being grumpy ;)

I'll donate an enormous chocolate bar to the best marshall at Tally..

Now then, is that just an incentive to yourself to be the best marshal? :lol:

[James]

Not that its right to rev while being marshalled but why dont you all just bring a pair of gloves ? Its what the majority do for rallycross ...

[_JP_]

Yea like some sparco driving gloves, I got some big thick ones that I use, probably an overkill for 10th :lol:

[rcracer]

what next crash helmets so drivers dont have to worry about taking a marshall out over a jump :thumbdown:

[MattW]

your girl chris it doesnt hurt that much :p

A


Actually, i'm with Chris on this one.

I have 2 scars on one of my fingers that was from a car tyre that was spinning when it got into contact with my finger.

[bert digler]

Actually, i'm with Chris on this one.

I have 2 scars on one of my fingers that was from a car tyre that was spinning when it got into contact with my finger.

i still have a scar on my hand from about 10years ago from schuey blues i think it should be a penalty offense for revving and abusing marshalls providing the marshall was seen to be aware and atempting to marshall

[ben]

what next crash helmets so drivers dont have to worry about taking a marshall out over a jump :thumbdown:

Go to the nook then. You have to stand in a steel cage to marshall the crossover. :woot:

[telboy]

I always marshal how I expect to be marshalled myself.
Unfortunately a lot of the ohter drivers don't seem to think in the same way.

I've had my thumb melted on spur gear by drivers reving cars up in the past, and also had some nice straight line tatoo's burnt into my arm by a tyre as someone throttled up when the tyres were touching my arm.

In the past (in TC's) I have just put the car back on the side of the track upside down when marshalling has ended up in me being injured by someone throttling up. Ok I got some flack from the driver after, but if he can be so ignorant as to do this then I can't be bothered to marshal them properly.

I'll donate an enormous chocolate bar to the best marshall at Tally..

Im up for that one!!:)

There should be awards for best marshal during the day.

[josh_smaxx]

Im with most people here, drivers are to impatiant (i am as well, im terrible for it) but marshalls just dont seem to care, i dont pick up cars that are revving but when people are shouting at you when your moving towards there car is does get to you. At shields yesterday i was on point 1 for qualy (for people who wernt there, it was in the middle of a corner table top where the marshal had to be low so not to obstruct the apex of the orner behind them). Some one crashed behind me, the marshal that was closest wasnt paying attention so the driver complained at me for being sat down :thumbdown: Im not exactly fast due to my physical fittness but i try my hardest and have sustained slight injuries from just getting to cars just to make sure there back on the track (at shields i tripped on on of the track markings and caught my knee on the wodden peg holding it up and put a nice gash in it :().

But if anyone has any tips for me then im all ears aslong as they do the same for me, i could have won my final yesterday mainly if i didnt crash but if the marshal was paying attention then i woud have stood a better chance.

rant over lol

[James]

what next crash helmets so drivers dont have to worry about taking a marshall out over a jump :thumbdown:

Whatever you like..

Gloves seem a perfectly sensible idea to me .. Not that i'm insulting peoples intelligence that it even needs to be suggested..

I have scars too, worst one is from foam tyres when we used to use tractite.. yowser, it took ages to heal .. if only i'd have been wearing gloves.

[Lee]

Ditto, if a car is on its roof and is on full throttle (through choice) then i just stand by it until the driver lifts off the throttle, this is one thing i have noticed in off road. I really dont know why people do it:confused:

[telboy]

caught my knee on the wodden peg holding it up and put a nice gash in it

...poor wodden peg. I hope you said sorry.:lol:

[josh_smaxx]

...poor wodden peg. I hope you said sorry.:lol:

:thumbsup: nop, after the race someone came up with a big hammer and started hitting it lol (the peg, not my knee before we get this even worse :lol:)

[ben]

I hope the peg hit the hammer back twice as hard :woot:

[josh_smaxx]

I hope the peg hit the hammer back twice as hard :woot:

No Ben, it didnt........ :woot:

[rcracer]

But if anyone has any tips for me then im all ears


yes josh carry on as you are, you can only do your best but some drivers dont think that is good enough

[Cooper]

in belgium/holland we never do it, only when the marshall has his back towards you we might do it untill he turns around and then stop. We yell most of the time... (and sometimes throw insults, just out of frustration ;))

[Col]

There are obviously exceptions the the rules, but in my experience the better the driver, the worse the marshalling.
Think about it this way - the new or younger driver is all revved up and keen to do the right thing. He may be clumsy, but he means well. The better driver has done it all before a million times and would rather stand next to his fellow good driver and chat than marshal properly. Think about it! How many times have you seen (or even done) this?

[James]

There are obviously exceptions th the rules, but in my experience the better the driver, the worse the marshalling.
Think about it this way - the new or younger driver is all revved up and keen to do the right thing. He may be clumsy, but he means well. The better driver has done it all before a million times and would rather stand next to his fellow good driver and chat than marshal properly. Think about it! How many times have you seen (or even done) this?


I think a lot of the top drivers are excellent marshalls actually..!

[Col]

I agree - alot are. Alot are not though

[Wraggy]

The better driver has done it all before a million times and would rather stand next to his fellow good driver and chat than marshal properly. ?
Totally disagree with you Col, you will find there one of the better marshalls out there.

[darryl]

If someone is revving the car when you need to marshall it, then don't touch it..... it could be the worlds championships, don't touch it guys, it'll burn for weeks and probably scar!!

Chris
i know the feeling i have the scar on my wrist to prove it:mad:, i like to marshall as i would be marshalled, any sign of a wheel turning i wont touch it

[neiloliver]

I think it is a mix, there are good and poor marshalls across the F1-F5 range. Overall I think most people do their best though and you get marshalled well more than you do poorly. Track design which places marshalls looking in two directions causes issues.. and if the marshal is lookng the "wrong" way when you crash then it always seems like an eternity for the marshall to hear your stabbing at the throttle and turn around... of course many drivers use this split second to start shouting abuse.. Marshalls dont have eyes in the back of their heads, nether do they have a "spidy sense".

Maybe a sensor in the car and a sounder that is triggered if the car is stationary or unside down.. or run it from channel three on the Rx and use the button on the Tx to ask for assistance.. Syththesized voice: "I say my good man, i seem to have got my car stuck on the hose, would you mind awfully by giving me a push?"

N

[_JP_]

Maybe a sensor in the car and a sounder that is triggered if the car is stationary or unside down.. or run it from channel three on the Rx and use the button on the Tx to ask for assistance.. Syththesized voice: "I say my good man, i seem to have got my car stuck on the hose, would you mind awfully by giving me a push?"

N

LOL :thumbsup:

[rcracer]

maybe you could get custom ones like tom tom..ozzy osbourne style :thumbsup:

[josh_smaxx]

maybe you could get custom ones like tom tom..ozzy osbourne style :thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Worse than the driver on the rostrum 'Get my f****** car of the f****** hose now!'

or

'My f****** car is upside down you f****** w*****, get off your f****** a*** and get it' :thumbsup:

[Garry Driffill]

What about a Phil Campell one? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[rcracer]

What about a Phil Campell one? :lol: :lol: :lol:

wooo you gonna be in trouble garry :lol:

[rcracer]

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Worse than the driver on the rostrum 'Get my f****** car of the f****** hose now!'

or

'My f****** car is upside down you f****** w*****, get off your f****** a*** and get it' :thumbsup:

ok a julian clary one :woot:

[josh_smaxx]

ok a julian clary one :woot:

:lol: I cant quite imagine how that would go. Funny though.

[Chrislong]

Id have a Jack Dee one please.

"Come on, Come on, come on, oh why bother"

[ashleyb4]

Ill have a malcolm mcdogal one that would be super effecting.

A

[rcracer]

or peter kay

" muuuuuuuum me caaars faallen of the raaamp " :thumbsup:

[Tom3012]

I agree with quite A few points raised here...
1. If you crash its your fault not the marshalls so get over it.
2. Yes the burns do hurt a lot!
3. In my experience, generally the better drivers are the first to complain and the last to react when marshalling (not all though)

Now I'm not the best Marshall, but I do my best, heck I'll sprint to a car over the other side of the track of I need to, and I generally come back from marshalling a bit "tired" from running so much!

And I'm done:D

[Richard Lowe]

As others have said I always try to marshal a car as I'd like to be marshalled. I also make a point of not putting a car down that the driver starts revving as I'm righting it. It achieves nothing other than p*****g the marshal off, although I've noticed more and more people doing it over the years :(

[Jez]

got my fingers burnt at bury last year by f1 driver,kept revving while trying to turn car over.my request to back off throttle was returned by a barrage of abuse by his dad.wouldnt mind if i was slow due to me being a fatty n all but it was right in front of me and i was a volunteer marshall!!!! i complained to my regional rep only to be shrugged at.later found out he was good friends with said drivers dad.case closed.

[rcracer]

i was pushed in the chest at the indoor finals by a what i would call a senior member of the rc scene and told to move back as i was blocking the veiw of the drivers apparantly :mad: i really should have took this further at the time . nothing to do with this topic but it just came back to me with jez saying that.

[AaronR]

I think it is a mix, there are good and poor marshalls across the F1-F5 range.

OFF TOPIC: I keep reading on here "F1 driver" this, "F1 driver" that. Where do you get these ratings and how do you determine what level a driver is at? I would assume a Lee Martin or Neil Cragg would be F1 and bmag would be F7 correct?

[antnee]

theres one guy at my club, will look at every other marshal on the track first to see if they will marshal the car, even if its right in front of him!! :mad:

If someones clearly revving it, I won't put the car back down until they stopped

[Southwell]

I have found in recent times the biggest problem with marshalling is not them being slow etc, it's them watching the racing instead of their designated areas.

[Chris Doughty]

I am probably going to be on my own here, but I will say it anyway.

I will marshall a car that has the throttle on, again as a lot of people have said, I marshall how I like to be marshalled myself.

I have been there on my roof as 2nd and 3rd place pass me to loose an A final on the last but one lap, I know how frustraiting it is, not thinking properly.

I still put in the effort to get to the car and right it as quickly as possible, if its revving its nute off (by the drivers own fault) then I might not be able to right it as fast to keep clear of its wheels but I don't delay putting it down.

maybe instead of punishing these people there and then, tell a ref after the race and they could talk to the driver before his next race? at least the message would be clearly told as oposed to having to be 'learned' in the heat of the moment?

[peetbee]

maybe instead of punishing these people there and then, tell a ref after the race and they could talk to the driver before his next race? at least the message would be clearly told as oposed to having to be 'learned' in the heat of the moment?

At least this way they'd be told about it, rather than just thinking that the marshalls were crap.

[josh_smaxx]

I got slapped by a marshal when trying to take photo's at shields :lol: does that count?

BTW it was my fault as i was sat in a really awkward place and it was accidental lol.

[darryl]

one bad experience i had at a york regional a few years ago was marshalling a schumacher fireblade and as i picked it off a hose the bodyshell came off in my hand,:o, it took me what seemed an eternity to put it back on and the lad in question was on for pole in the A at the time, well i have never had so much abuse off the lads dad some of his phrases are un printable:eh?:, so mistakes can happen even if you are trying to marshall to the best of your ability:lol:

[Northy]

I have noticed more of this recently, and from people that should know better. I can mention it ath the next NE regional drivers briefs if people want. :confused:

G

[Kash]

one bad experience i had at a york regional a few years ago was marshalling a schumacher fireblade and as i picked it off a hose the bodyshell came off in my hand,:o, it took me what seemed an eternity to put it back on and the lad in question was on for pole in the A at the time, well i have never had so much abuse off the lads dad some of his phrases are un printable:eh?:, so mistakes can happen even if you are trying to marshall to the best of your ability:lol:


I remember that :o

[Kopite]

i kind of feel that the revving the car whilst on it's roof can almost be instinctive at times, i actually don't even know if i do it or not, i'm concentrating that hard on the race. I'm not saying that it's acceptable to do it, i just wonder if other people do it without even realising it.

the one thing that does piss me off though, is people who shout at the marshall to hurry up, whilst their car is still flipping through the air, or has literally just crashed. Give them a chance eh!!!

[telboy]

I can understand why people rev the car when its on its roof and no one is running to it.
Having marshalled both on and off road, I have noticed that-
1. Off road is noisier when races are running, but they don't make as much noise when they turn over. So if you have your back to it or you are watching another corner, you may not notice.
2. When TC's are running the are quieter, but make more noise when the turn over, because of the full covering bodyshells. This is why you don't see as many TC drivers revving them up when they crash.

But obviously, when a marshal gets to your car you should stop revving so as not to cause injury or ruin your own run any further.

I agree G, it should be something mentioned at drivers breifings.

[Benh]

If you don't crash, you can't get upset! :yawn::)

If someone shouts Marshall when there car crashes, fair enough - even if it's still spinning through the stratosphere - sometimes you dont hear or see it. Shouting anything before or after "marshall!" (other than behind you) is out of order and said driver should be penalised!

Maybe some recognition for Marshall of the day at the end of a meeting will proactively encourage good marshalling and it thanks the thankless of all tasks!

[Trish]

You know one thing I find funny, embarassing and somtimes annoying is when someone crashes into a pipe and tries to drive themselves out of the situation, whilst there would be 'me' the 'marshall' chaising after it like a headless chicken arms out stretched and when I get to the car they would get free and drive off lol! :eh?:

I agree with mr doughty on the matter of marshalling, il marshall anything, but if they are being a nob about it, then if i was that upset :mad: then maybe a slight word to a race offical would be welcome.

Trish

[MK999]

You seem to chase after piped cars more than anyone else Trish, it is quite funny to watch :D

Same as you/Doughty I will marshall anything as like most things I do I tend to get a tunnel vision and all I think about is getting the car back on it's wheels, also I find most A finalists tend to be the better marshalls, personally my awareness of other cars that are still moving on the track when marshalling is quite poor, watching a lot of A finalists marshall they have developed a better awareness and they're ducking and jumping over cars they already knew were coming 5s ago ! (Lee Martin springs to mind on this one)

Although marshalling can make and break races sometimes you do kinda have to remember it was you that made the mistake in the first place, and try not to blame the marshalls :)

[Nick Goodall]

How horrible as a driver on a good run is that feeling as you see your car flipping over and then realising that the marshall hasn't spotted it - i agree that revving is wrong as someone's trying to put their hands in but as others have said sometimes you HAVE to do something to get attention, and shouting just confuses people as they don't know which direction to look in!

I think one sharp Blip and locking of the brakes really doesn't do any harm, it's when people are on full throttle as you're picking it up that it annoys me......

[Kash]

Is there not a BRCA rule about spinning your wheels when the car is being marshalled?? For some reason I think there is.

[dave p hall]

I have noticed more of this recently, and from people that should know better. I can mention it ath the next NE regional drivers briefs if people want. :confused:

G

think thats a good idea g,im glad this thread is making us think about our attitudes/manner's when racing:)

[loose]

got my fingers burnt at bury last year by f1 driver,kept revving while trying to turn car over.my request to back off throttle was returned by a barrage of abuse by his dad.wouldnt mind if i was slow due to me being a fatty n all but it was right in front of me and i was a volunteer marshall!!!! i complained to my regional rep only to be shrugged at.later found out he was good friends with said drivers dad.case closed.

I think I saw this. He was in the A final and he crashed into your legs. His car banging into your legs spinning round as you tried to marshall it. He wouldn't come off the throttle, you shouted and his dad told you to "f**cking marshall it then". He didn't just say it either, everyone heard it. He's lucky you were pretty cool about it. I know what I'd have said/done.

Cos he was an F1 'face' I think he thought he could do what he wants. Dont get me wrong, most F1's are v helpful. Most, not all :D

[Lee Martin]

i actually enjoy marshalling...........

i dont care if a cars revving or not. i marshall it, as i would like to be marshalled if i revved it ( i dont intend to) but i know cars to get blips when upside down...as the arials covered...and if that was my car i would want it marshalled either way....

just be carefull... i tend to try to get to a car before its even rolled over so cant tell if its revving or not!

everyone gets frustrated....

[mole2k]

Yeah I agree with Lee there, I try not to rev while upside down but I do find I sometimes end up doing it when in the middle of a race and I make a silly mistake.

I was told that last night I was revving the car while it was being marshalled during one of the heats, I hadnt even realised I was doing it. (It was my gf told me too as she was marshalling)

[RogerM]

I agree with the revving issue .... as Nick says a sharp blip to attract attention is ok but reving as the guy puts his hands down is not on. I won't marshal a car that is being held on full power though and thus wouldn't expect anybody else to!

I try to be patient before reving shouting a marshal but sometimes when I've been taken out and the marshal hasn't noticed I'll call out, I do try not to.

If you crash then just be patient.

[Zedman]

Several very simply steps to avoid problems:

1. Even if the car is not "revving" assume it will as soon as u put your hand close, its stationary so pick it up carefully in the middle of the body with your soft pink skin clear of the wheels.

2. If you followed step one you didnt get any friction burns so thats it.......

3. If I havnt spotted an upturned car while marshelling I never mind folks shouting "marshall" it helps me, helps the driver and does no harm at all

I love the previous post where the car got flung into a bush for revving, I have only been caught out once, since then I always stick to step one

[flipside]

To be honest, I always notice that the english drivers do a very good job marshalling! (no I'm not english)

Ok someone asked for tips, here's what I try to do :-)

The biggest mistake when marshalling is that people see a car crash, then wait untill it rolled over ten times, just to make sure it will end up on its roof, and then they will start moving towards it. Usually you even see that a car will crash before it actually does. So just get up already, follow the tumbling car and pick it up, saves a lot of time!

Also when you cross a lane to pick up a car, don't keep standing on it while turning the car over, cause you're probably on the ideal line of the track. Just go stand on the lane next to it (usually outside of a corner).

Don't put a car back on track right in front of oncoming traffic...

Watch marshalls close to you. Sometimes another marshall is picking up a car, while another car crashes close to his marshalling point. It might be quicker for you to fetch that 2nd car, even if it's not in your marshalling area. Just make sure you get back quickly. Which is another common mistake, returning to your marshalling position should be as quick as leaving it. Othewise you block the view for other drivers, or you risk not seeing another car crash.

On steep jumps, put cars back on track behind them (or on top), or it will not be able drive over it without turning back to get some initial speed... Especially true on the "wall of death" type of things used so much now :-)

You probably know which marshalls can block your view while driving, so when you go to marshall yourself, try to make sure you sit low or position yourself in a logical way. Especially true for smaller meetings where not all marshall points are fixed and well thought over.

Not saying that I always follow my own rules though :-) Marshalling can be quite tricky, you almost need to be more concentrated than while your driving :-)