Looking To Join...Help Needed

[Cremegg]

Hello

I am looking to come along to one of the race days and see what its like

I also bought a LRP S10 Twister RTR (brushed motor) as a starter car, as I did not have a high budget to spend. Its also a 27mhz set but im going to be upgrading to a 2.4ghz set soon (as when i have the money lol)

Would i need to upgrade before i can join, if i am interested?

Many Thanks

[Howler]

The Twister and a 27mhz will be fine, you'll just need to make 100% sure when you go out on track that nobody else is on your colour. 2.4 will be a lot easier as it takes all the worries and glitches out.

Good to start with something slower anyway, as you'll crash at slower speeds and therefore break less.

Come along next Sunday to our indoor race, your first race is free. You'll find lots of people willing to help out on your first race. :)

[Si Coe]

Most people run 2.4ghz, which ironically means very few using 27mhz so you should be fine. Besides I actually think the club may own some spare 27mhz crystals somewhere!
Your Twister will be a good starting point, and being brushed isn't bad either as most beginners are terribly over motored. Learn to drive before changing too much - you might will make different choices that way too.
Tyres are the most important purchase over all else. Make sure you have the right tyres - Schumacher Yellow Stagger ribs up front, Schumacher Yellow Minipins (indoors) or Minispikes (outdoors) at the rear. Without them it will be very hard to control the car at all.

[Cremegg]

Thanks for all your help

I am literally brand new to all this but very much interested in getting into it full time.

Regarding the tyres/wheels? are these the 12 hex fitting with minipins?
and do you have a link of where to get them? Will they fit the LRP Twister

Can you give me details of when your next meeting/race is? I live round the corner from goshen sports center but is that just for summer racing ive heard?

Im sorry for asking so many questions regarding this but i am quite clueless at the moment but definitly willing to learn :)

Many thanks again

[Cremegg]

Sorry again

What size wheels would i need for the Schumacher Yellow Stagger ribs and minipin tyres?

can i buy these with wheels?

Many thank again :blush:

[Cremegg]

Regarding the wheels/tyres that were mentioned? where is the best place to get these? and are all and is a a standard fit for all 1/10 buggies?

thanks

[spiky]

i get mine from je models and yes i THINK they fit any 1/10th wheels just check when buying

[Si Coe]

12mm hex fits are quite common so if thats what it takes no problem there - though the tyres themselves don't come prefitted to the wheels, they need gluing on. Buggy's use 2.2in diameter tyres.
Best bet is to go to JE Models and ask for Stu. He designed the Goshen track, used to be Bury's club chairman and is a national level driver. You can't really ask a better person what stuff you'll need to get racing at Bury. Actually most of the JE guys have run there and can help, plus its the local place to get stuff.
Goshen is our 'summer' venue but that really means early spring to late Autumn. During that period its basically a meeting every single week unless its too wet. Over winter we are at Counthill School (Waterhead Academy) in Oldham, but only race once a month.

[Cremegg]

12mm hex fits are quite common so if thats what it takes no problem there - though the tyres themselves don't come prefitted to the wheels, they need gluing on. Buggy's use 2.2in diameter tyres.
Best bet is to go to JE Models and ask for Stu. He designed the Goshen track, used to be Bury's club chairman and is a national level driver. You can't really ask a better person what stuff you'll need to get racing at Bury. Actually most of the JE guys have run there and can help, plus its the local place to get stuff.
Goshen is our 'summer' venue but that really means early spring to late Autumn. During that period its basically a meeting every single week unless its too wet. Over winter we are at Counthill School (Waterhead Academy) in Oldham, but only race once a month.

Thank you so much for all your help, I might take a look on Saturday if I've got any free time. My buggy does take 12 hex with a pin so it should be no problem too

I don't think I can make it this month (due to visiting family for Xmas) but in the new year I'm definitly going to come and see what it's like

I probably won't be able to race as I only have, at the moment, 3 x 1800mah batts which I don't think can last a race? Maybe... Haha, although I did buy a fast charger too :thumbsup:

I've seen a few model websites that the Schumacher tyres come with the white wheels? Or is this just showing what the tyres look like?

Thanks again

[Si Coe]

You can buy the tyres on the wheels but they are pin fit not 12mm.

Depending on your motor 1800mAh should be enough for a race - they last a little over 5 minutes. 3 packs will last you 3 races and you can recharge between them - will be touch and go on lasting but is possible.
With brushless and lipo despite capacities of 5000mAh plus we don't actually use more than 1500 in a race normally.

[Cremegg]

Ah ok

Sorry for my ignorance again...what do you mean by 12mm and pin fit?

the buggy i have as a little metal rod/pin through the axel and the a hex nut that fits into it, which then goes onto the wheel

Sorry for sounding confused again :confused:

thanks

[Gavin Collingwood]

12mm is the size of the hex that goes over the pin

[Cremegg]

thanks i now understand...it is 12mm hex then

im looking then to put some disc wheels on

does anyone know if any of these wheels would fit on the S10 Twister?

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/cml_category.php?catId=59&range=RACING

and if so, would any tyre fit on them or does it have to be the same make as the wheel? IE, if Team associated wheel fits on the twister, can i fir the schumacher tyres?

thanks in advance

[Col]

Wheels at top are std pin fitment.

Wheels at bottom are losi/associated 4wd fitment (10mm hex)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4259/img201205201321141.jpg

On 12mm wheels the hub on the car will have something similar the this:

http://www.integy.com/C23596BLUE.jpg

and obviously the "female" side on the wheels (same as the 10mm above, only deeper and larger)

HTH

[Cremegg]

Wheels at top are std pin fitment.

Wheels at bottom are losi/associated 4wd fitment (10mm hex)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4259/img201205201321141.jpg

On 12mm wheels the hub on the car will have something similar the this:

http://www.integy.com/C23596BLUE.jpg

and obviously the "female" side on the wheels (same as the 10mm above, only deeper and larger)

HTH
Thanks Col

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/cml_product.php?range=RACING&productId=0000006902

Regarding these, are these able to fit a buggy where there is pin through the axel, the 12mm hex nut them slots over the pin, then the wheel slots into the hex nut, and then the lock nut is tightened

are these the same principle?

these are the wheels/tyres i have now (which are stock)

http://www.lrp.cc/en/products/vtec-tyre/110-offroad/produkt/vtec-kamikaze-10-komplettrad-hinten-110-buggy-j-compound/details/

http://www.lrp.cc/en/products/vtec-tyre/110-offroad/produkt/vtec-groove-2wd-vorne-komplettrad-110-buggy-j-compound/details/

as i said, i want to get the right wheels/tyres to fit for indoor racing and join you guys :)

Thanks again guys

[Cremegg]

http://www.teamassociated.com/news/latest_products/616-B4.1_12mm_Hex_Drive/
these are what my buggy has, so would the Team Associated wheels fit my buggy?

thanks

[Howler]

I've got loads of wheels and tyres on 12mm hex rims, if i were you, i'd just come and find me on Sunday and try various ones of mine before you buy. Just ask for Steve, or just Howler.

[Cremegg]

Hi Steve

I wont be able to make it this sunday (as ive got family over for xmas and their staying at our house) but i will be able to make the next one in january which i will definitly attend.

Thank you for the offer too. if i can find a wheel that fits ill be a happy guy

cheers

[Cremegg]

I also forgot to add that the wheels i may need...is for the TLR 22

but i dont know if this is true or not :eh?:

[Howler]

Correct, all my wheels are for my 22, and i dont plan to be running that anytime soon, so just send me a message reminding me to bring the wheels and tyres in January and you can see which ones suit you, i've got pretty much anything you could want for racing at Bury.

[Cremegg]

That's awesome Steve!

Thanks for that :)

At least then I know which wheels will fit my buggy

Can you just remind me when your meet is in January again?

Thanks again

[Howler]

6th January

[Cremegg]

Cheers and that's in Oldham to just to confirm?

And what time do you need to be there for?

Thanks

[Gavin Collingwood]

Correct, all my wheels are for my 22, and i dont plan to be running that anytime soon.

Me neither Steve as I've got shot of that frustrating pile of crap and will be turning up on the 6th with my brand spanking shiny new kyosho RB6 :-D

[Howler]

Cheers and that's in Oldham to just to confirm?

And what time do you need to be there for?

Thanks

Yep, Oldham, about 10am.

[Cremegg]

Hi Again

Gonna upgrade to brushless in the next few weeks

I found this combo

http://www.jemodels.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=13673&category_id=1276

Would this be good enough for racing?

It's a 13t brushless motor

Thanks

[Howler]

Yep, that should be ok for a mild brushless setup.

[Cremegg]

cheers for that

would it be race worthy geard correctly?

would kv/turn motors do you guys run?

cheers

[Col]

Don't be worried about speed, esp indoors.
The thing that will slow you down most is crashing, which you will do alot more of with a car that's faster than your ability.
From what I've read Bury run a beginner/youngster heat that that set-up should slot into quite nicely. You can always move onto a "pro" level kit or faster motor at a later time.

[Howler]

A 13t should be plenty fast enough for you. As Col says, too much power just means you'll break lots. Many experienced racers are running very quick motors, but they've built up to those motors as they've got better, they didnt start on them!

Personally i started on a Tamiya silver can 540 20-odd years ago. A 13t brushless will be several times faster than that!

[Cremegg]

ah ok thanks col

i just dont want to buy that motor & esc combo and find out its not a good piece of kit,

im gonna use it for bashing and abit of racing too

could i also ask, if i was to go with the 13T brushless, what would be the best gearing? between pinion and spur, (i only know it as in teeth so far haha)

Many thanks again

[Cremegg]

A 13t should be plenty fast enough for you. As Col says, too much power just means you'll break lots. Many experienced racers are running very quick motors, but they've built up to those motors as they've got better, they didnt start on them!

Personally i started on a Tamiya silver can 540 20-odd years ago. A 13t brushless will be several times faster than that!

lol ok thanks Howler. As being new to all this i need all the help i can get, which i really do appriaciate, so i will stick with the 13T

I guess gearing would then become an issue, finding the balance between acceleration and speed?... if this is the case, would i need to change the pinion and spur?

thanks

[Howler]

Hard to say without knowing your spur gear size and final drive ratio. Usually its best to experiment a bit, start with the pinion you have and gear up until you start to notice the motor and ESC getting hot. You can usually find someone with a temperature gun you can borrow in the pits on race days (Me for example). Keep motor and ESC temps below 150 degrees and you shouldnt have any problems. When you hit about 170 you start to get ESCs blowing up and motor bearings failing.

[Cremegg]

ok thanks

reading on some parts for the buggy i have. The stock spur is 74t 48dp. I know i have to replace my pinion with a steel/metal one as a plastic one (which i have) may strip the teeth using a brushless motor

From the info given, what teeth pinion should i get? (or a rough idea) to start with?

thanks again

EDIT: - Sorry, i should of mentioned i only have a plastic pinion, so when i get a steel/metal pinion what would you suggest? the same amount of teeth as the stock one?

[Howler]

Chances are, you're going to need a few. I'd probably try and 21 to start with and if it doesnt get hot throw on a 22... then a 23... until it starts to get too hot.

[Cremegg]

thanks brilliant

thank you such much for all your help

hopefuly i should see you in january/febuary time :)