re north east northwest devide

[bigred5765]

do you think it possible to split up the 5 major northeast clubs and add bury southport to make two new regions without it affecting club turn out, please post on the pol and give reasons why or why not it will be a open poll and people can see who posted what,

[ben]

ive voted :D

[Lee]

Can we have an option for No because it would be crap then :D

[notlawnomis]

Can we have an option for No because it would be crap then :D


I'm also in support of this option :lol:

[notlawnomis]

do you think it possible to split up the 5 major northeast clubs and add bury to make two new regions without it affecting club turn out, please post on the pol and give reasons why or why not it will be a open poll and people can see who posted what,

So what happens to Southport Carl??

[Mike Hudson]

was thinking something like that myself lee :lol:

[bigred5765]

add them in too

[Chequered Flag Racing]

:thumbdown: no would lower racers and I'd have even less regionals to attend

[bigred5765]

ok jimmy or mod can you add the option to the poll to make it one big region add another option

[chrispattinson]

Carl, did you vote?

Ill get my wife and mam and dad to vote aswell, as they sometimes come and help at regionals.


**Joke, Chris Pattinson's wife, mam or dad has not voted on this poll - yet.

[bigred5765]

i did click on the numbers as i said you can see who voted for what its a public vote

[Tom3012]

i think we could do with another track or 2 in our regionals, as much as i like racing the regionals, its gets a bit repetitive doing the same 2 tracks, even i do love racing at southport :lol:

[burgie]

the problem isn't the "split" of clubs, it's the fact that there are only really two clubs in the Northwest, Bury and Southport.

There needs to be more clubs in the northwest, and to my mind the Northwest and Midwest regions need to look at their boundaries to maybe include Wrexham and Oswestry.....

[djduncaz]

Carl, did you vote?

Ill get my wife and mam and dad to vote aswell, as they sometimes come and help at regionals.


**Joke, Chris Pattinson's wife, mam or dad has not voted on this poll - yet.


but his 2 cats have

[Chrislong]

the problem isn't the "split" of clubs, it's the fact that there are only really two clubs in the Northwest, Bury and Southport.

There needs to be more clubs in the northwest, and to my mind the Northwest and Midwest regions need to look at their boundaries to maybe include Wrexham and Oswestry.....

Fully agree.

Don't stretch the boundaries though, we need to encourage a new club to open within the current Boundaries. Id be more keen for that than including Oswestry/Wrexham.

[DanW]

Wrexham outdoor track is a new venue and I think would be better suited to the NW region then MW. There are a lot of racers based around, wirral-chester kind of area. I know a lot of those guys run MW because its a bigger series, but if NW included Wrexham I think it would be a real boost to the series.

The new Wrexham track is permanent to??? That would make NW region 3 tracks all permanent and purpose built... to me that would make a really good series.

[Chrislong]

Hey Dan, any photos? :)

[ashleyb4]

its ours get off hehe go mid west only kidding wrexhams club officials decition which region they want to go in but as it is on the way to oz but about 15 minutes less on the journey.

A

[turbo_brick]

Fully agree.

we need to encourage a new club to open within the current Boundaries. Id be more keen for that than including Oswestry/Wrexham.

The problem with new clubs is actually getting people to race on a regular basis, as we are finding out at Jarrow, if your only getting enough people for 2 heats, there will eventually come a time when the club has to close.

What people need to do is support clubs that are there every week, then they will survive and be able to run regionals etc.

[burgie]

I don't want to stretch the boundaries too far either, hence only including Wrexham and Oswestry - both are within a reasonable drive, but I do accept Oswestry is pushing the boundaries a little. But these are only the wittering thoughts of me being bored.

I don't think the Wrexham track is built yet, but I know they are "on with it" - they have their own website too, but the address escapes me.

[DanW]

Hey Dan, any photos? :)

http://www.wrexhammcc.co.uk/index.php?ind=gallery&op=section_view&idev=6

From photos the only racing seems to involve a large crane. :p

[bigred5765]

cool can we have crane racing,looks like a possibilty lol,got a post code for said track please
duhh scrap that found it

[bigred5765]

63 miles 1 hour 20mins travel, are you guys looking at northwest inclusion

[ashleyb4]

Oswestry is mid west

A

[Lee]

This is wrexham ash, its a different country :p

[Lee]

Ash,

Why have you voted? Neither region concerns you and you probably dont know where durham, south shields or jarrow is.:bored:

[nobby]

leave it as is.
the northwest need to find venues in there region instead of poaching from others:p

[footey]

think it be good to just have a north regional series including all north east and north west it be great

[RcRob]

This thread should never have happend, I think Jimmy should close it!

Not only is it completely counter-productive, it takes away the DISCUSSION and makes Decision, which we are not doing!

It's also in the wrong forum, meaning many other user's will post for the sake of it on an issue that is completely irrelevant to them, which takes me onto the thread starter, who started a poll about the NE when he doesn't even live there :thumbdown:

[Mr Spock]

RcRob - some of your logic is good (a forum poll does not make any decisions)

Clubs choose which regions’ series they wish to hold meetings for - regardless of geographic location. Any club can hold a meeting for any region or regions it sees fit.

This thread is founded not on logic, but on misconceptions.

[RickRick]

the south lakes club is still going, we used to hold a round of the NW series, we've moved to a school in kendal so it's just plain grass, with a large banking at one side

[burgie]

I think I raced there a few years back - is it wennington high school or something like that?

Why are South Lakes not hosting regionals anymore?

[RickRick]

we've had plenty of venues, we moved from wennington hall to the kendal showground, which wasn't very good, full of bumps and potholes, and it rained on us 2 years running, and the northwest joined northeast, so there were plenty of other tracks, also the club became really low on members, surviving on only 6 of us for a good few months, i think we're up to about 25 now. we're now racing at a school just on the edge of kendal. I think the club would be interested in running a regional meeting again if it suited everyone else

[Stu]

Would be good to have South Lakes back.

The poll really needs another option "No, as there is no such thing as a regional divide - clubs can ask to run meetings for any region(s)"

[notlawnomis]

We already have a series that does your option, its called the National Series :p

[Stu]

Explain?

[notlawnomis]

If a club can request to run in any of the regions as you suggest (I think), theoretically for example, a club in the northeast could apply to run one of the midwest regional events. If the midwest were stuggling for places to hold their regional meetings (an example only), that could mean midwest drivers having to travel to the northeast to compete in the midwest series!! This would essentailly then become a nationwide series.

Unless I've misinterpreted your idea??

[Stu]

It's not an idea - it's the way it is.

There is no such thing as a regional boundary, not in a geographic sense.

If a club from the south coast asked the NE consortium to hold a regional, and it was accepted, then it could hold it.

This is obviously an extreme example, and would never happen in reality - but my point is that it's up to the regional committee to decide which applications to accept - it matters not where they are from.

It's also worth pointing out that a club can host meetings for more than one region. That would be quite important in the unlikely event of a region split, as the clubs from both sides of the split could still hold meetings for both sides.

There is a massive amount of stuff in this thread & 'Jim's' thread that is highly illogical (I sound like Mr Spock - sorry) or factually incorrect. I have been very close to deleting some of it but have not done so - this is only oOple after all!

[notlawnomis]

I see where you are coming from Stu, and as Bury ran N/E and N/W meetings previously, I'm sure the majority of people are or should be aware of that fact. So yes, I agree a south coast club could effectively hold a N/E regional.

However irrelevant of the region, do you not think there must come a point when any consortium struggling for venues or not would say no to a club due to distance from there given regional location??

[Stu]

Oh yeah – of course.

It would be decided by the committee, using their best judgement based on their options at the time.

It’s certainly not decided by the racers themselves (unless they have a place on the committee), and certainly not by posts on stupid internet message boards like this one.

(Jimmy – you see what I said there, you like?)

[notlawnomis]

Oh yeah – of course.
It’s certainly not decided by the racers themselves (unless they have place on the committee), and certainly not by posts on stupid internet message boards like this one.

:lol: never a truer word!! Obviously not the message board bit. :D

[RcRob]

djduncaz (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=1232), mw02veg (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=488), stuhurley (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=2587)
ashleyb4 (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=376), ben (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=462), bigred5765 (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=257), Kecky (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=2431), mattym0310 (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=941), Medders (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=895), RickRick (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=2058), Scouser (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=627), telboy (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=596), Tom3012 (http://www.oople.com/forums/member.php?u=1802)


The above drivers should all be milked


Because they disagree with me :thumbsup:

[RickRick]

i should be shot for mentioning that there is a club that race up in kendal, used to run a round of the NW and would be willing to run it again IF people wanted us to
Nice!

[Lee]

Maybe you posted it in the wrong thread then?:eh?:


To be honest this thread is all bullsh!t. The title is spelled incorrectly for a start, secondly if you did divide the northwest, as the title suggests, the regional would become a club race.

There was no reason for a poll and it has proved nothing that the other thread has not covered, people do not want to see the region split, apart from carl because it suits him better, for some of the other people who voted yes, at least 2 dont drive and one is from down south :woot:

[bigred5765]

nothing to do with suiting me better lee. and i doubt the incorrect spelling put people of,but yes it was all theoretical, a what if and not meant to be taken to seriously,

[Dreadstar]

To be honest lads,think yourselves lucky that you have quite a few tracks within the Northern region,both east & west. Up here in Scotland,there are virtually none.Although I'd love to do 1/10th electric off-road,there aren't any tracks here to do it,(not grass tracks anyway,though there are one or two indoor venues).I'm currently having to run 1/8th nitro,on the only custom built off-road track in Scotland,where I do occasionally give my B4 a little run now & then.Unfortunately it really is a bit strenuous on the buggy,and at 276m long,it really punishes your packs,to the point that I'm lucky if I get much more than 5.5 min out a 4300 pack.Then again I'm running a Trinity P98 8x2t motor c/w 20t pinion on an 81t spur.
I think that the nearest track to me would possibly be S.Shields,but thats over 150 miles from here,so it's just not practical to run there.:( Stonehaven club are supposed to be building an off-road track too,but the distance is just as great.

[Kecky]

To be honest this thread is all bullsh!t.

Did I just see one of your toys leaving the cot then Lee :p

[Lee]

No i was just looking for a good use for the term "bullshit" it doesn`t get used enough nowadays.

[Northy]

Apart from in Vermins tent at racing! :thumbsup:

G

[Lee]

Not everyone gets to hear your torrents of abuse though G :thumbsup:

[josh_smaxx]

Not everyone gets to hear your torrents of abuse though G :thumbsup:

Someone record it :thumbsup: