View Full Version : Plastic wing???
Lonestar
08-08-2008, 03:58 PM
Hi there all - I have the following Q for you :) Are there any non-lexan wings available? Looking for something tough but flexible to sustain lots of abusive, uncontrolled landing on my XXX basher ;) Brand/part# would sure help. Thanks!
Paul
Academy SB wing, part no: SB-007. Your model shop can order it from Horizon if you're in the UK or MRC if you're on t'other side of the pond
Darren Boyle
08-08-2008, 05:57 PM
Academy wing is not currently available here in the UK, we have had them back ordered for over 6 months now.....
glypo
08-08-2008, 09:11 PM
Depending how things go, I could have a plastic (Nylon based) wing for sale within a few weeks.
Designed using the latest aerospace technology it will give around 10% more downforce (I didn't want to much, or you just overload the rear) but critically it will have over 65% less drag - better battery life and top speed as a result.
Should be plenty strong enough for bashing too. I'll let you know how it goes, and I will test thoroughly before releasing.
sparrow.2
08-08-2008, 09:41 PM
Depending how things go, I could have a plastic (Nylon based) wing for sale within a few weeks.
Designed using the latest aerospace technology it will give around 10% more downforce (I didn't want to much, or you just overload the rear) but critically it will have over 65% less drag - better battery life and top speed as a result.
Should be plenty strong enough for bashing too. I'll let you know how it goes, and I will test thoroughly before releasing.
Any pics? Would be intensely interested! Any idea on price yet?
smokes
08-08-2008, 10:06 PM
what happened to those old yokomo nylon wings?
lochness42
09-08-2008, 08:25 AM
Having bunch of wing mounts isn't bad idea if you want use plastic wing. They are designed for lexan wings which are lighter and more flexible.
bigred5765
09-08-2008, 09:44 AM
contact roger or woody from bury they have loads of old style platic wings,
sparrow.2
09-08-2008, 11:37 AM
Having bunch of wing mounts isn't bad idea if you want use plastic wing. They are designed for lexan wings which are lighter and more flexible.
Might pay to go back to old school piano wire to attach the wing then :)
Indestructible!
lochness42
09-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Yeah I remember times when was Losi XX hot new and there was also old good asso. Nice wing mounting it had however removing shell without removing wing was impossible =o)
glypo
09-08-2008, 05:51 PM
I will also produce a number of different mounts for a more aerodynamic mounting solution, as well as obviously being better suited to the nylon wing. Problem is with the data I have available this will only be for Kyosho, Losi, Associated and Schumacher buggies initially.
For most buggies, the standard mount (designed for the standard polycarbonate wings) will actually suffice however.
sparrow - Unfortunately I have no photos as I don't even have a prototype myself yet. All I have is literally hundreds of pages worth of geometric data from my aerodynamics calculation and analysis and a computer model.
So I'm just waiting on China basically. If anyone knows of any good contacts for injection moulding - please let me know. My main issues are relatively low batch numbers (hundreds rather than thousands).
Either way, I'm hoping I can get this sorted within next few weeks as both my 8th and 10th scale wings have been designed and waiting for months now.
cjm_2008
09-08-2008, 05:56 PM
i'm totally fed up with having to fit a new rear wing every few weeks.
with lipo, weight is no longer an issue, so i'd also like a nice tough rear wing - i'd probably buy one!
Lonestar
10-08-2008, 08:41 PM
Thanks all for the input, part numbers and all - I'll review my options and make a call - thanks again!
Paul
jimmy
10-08-2008, 09:05 PM
The plastic wings I've seen have been pretty naff - weak and poor downforce. If you want a strong, tough wing with good downforce then the EDIT wing is the best I've ever used. It's made from some thick lexan so doesn't need bracing and doesn't deform like most wings do at speed.
scotoap
11-08-2008, 07:56 AM
Hi there all - I have the following Q for you :) Are there any non-lexan wings available? Looking for something tough but flexible to sustain lots of abusive, uncontrolled landing on my XXX basher ;) Brand/part# would sure help. Thanks!
Paul
Has anyone tried adapting plastic containers like milk bottles or sandwich boxes etc. there are a variety of shapes and widths in the cheapy shops from around 50p that I have seen locally.
Might be cheaper in the end if like me your mostly upside down with the buggy jumps Ha Ha;):)
sparrow.2
11-08-2008, 08:30 AM
Has anyone tried adapting plastic containers like milk bottles or sandwich boxes etc. there are a variety of shapes and widths in the cheapy shops from around 50p that I have seen locally.
Might be cheaper in the end if like me your mostly upside down with the buggy jumps Ha Ha;):)
That's a trend that seems to always resurface every couple of years. In 93 it was the done thing on Yokomos.
Looks utterly rubbish, doesn't work terribly well and the plastic from the containers shatters, leaving bits of wing all over the track.
mark christopher
11-08-2008, 08:50 AM
hy does no one do a tenth wing scaled down from a 8th one?
sparrow.2
11-08-2008, 09:00 AM
hy does no one do a tenth wing scaled down from a 8th one?
Kyosho do one, but it just doesn't look right on a 1/10 scale.
josh_smaxx
11-08-2008, 09:07 AM
One of the companies like 3racing or something do one, its very strong, looks crap though. Seems like a very good choice for bashing but not racing.
Lonestar
11-08-2008, 10:07 AM
back with a bit more time now ;)
- Si G - thanks - will try to source one overseas.
- Glypo - thanks - pls keep us posted ;)
- lochness - I have trinity alum mounts... let's see if I can break the rear shock tower ;)
- Jimmy, sparrow, josh - thanks - will look into that too...
I basically run my XXX on an 8th scale track... the car spends a LOT of time upside down, the wing suffers quite a bit. I ain't really chasing killer looks or low weight, I'm more interested in a budget-oriented, reliable solution. I also thought about doing my own stuff out of, whatever, plastic bottles, plexi, you name it but then again if I can source a few $6 wings from Asia I'll be a happy camper ;)
Will keep you posted on what I found... thanks!
Paul
lochness42
11-08-2008, 10:57 AM
lochness - I have trinity alum mounts... let's see if I can break the rear shock tower ;)
Paul
I belive that you can. I've broken my shock tower after regular landing (of course in part where are shocks).
dave p hall
12-08-2008, 07:40 AM
would a stronger wing cause more shock tower breakage's,when landing on roof:eh?:under crash condition's of course:p
Lonestar
15-08-2008, 10:16 AM
would a stronger wing cause more shock tower breakage's,when landing on roof:eh?:under crash condition's of course:p
I picked up a few cheapo 3racing plastic wings... I'll let you know soon enough ;)
Paul
Lonestar
03-09-2008, 03:54 PM
Hi guys - due to weather and other priorities, I only had time to run the new 3Racing wings a couple of minutes, but given my poor offroad driving abilities, this was plenty enough to give it a serious bashing (running on 8th scale tracks sure doesn't help either). I am happy to report that neither the wing nor the shock tower show any damage, despite seriously wrong landings and barrel rolls. I have absolutely no idea about aerodynamics, but the car doesn't handle any worse than before, and, as said above, I can't drive offroad to save my life anyway haha.
For like $5 a pop I can only recommend them... they were sourced from dinball, and yes they look ugly, but then again I only asked them to be robust and that design seems to fit my needs.
Hope this helps - thanks all for pointing me to the right direction,
Paul
ottoswe
10-09-2008, 12:18 PM
3racing, has a nylon wing that looks ok. www.3racing.com.hk (http://www.3racing.com.hk) or something..
Lonestar
30-09-2008, 09:29 AM
3racing, has a nylon wing that looks ok. www.3racing.com.hk (http://www.3racing.com.hk) or something..
yup these are the ones I have... and they look like they were designed by a 12-yr old on LSD... but they're holding fine! :thumbsup:
Paul
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