Keen Hawk

[Rob Fitzgerald]

I want one of these ...

http://www.rc-junkies.nl/images/library/keenhawk.jpg

[Chris Doughty]

I love the Tamiya names, I wonder if they just pick 2 random words from the dictionary and put them together.

[Rob Fitzgerald]

I am sorely tempted to get one of these and spend a small fortune upgrading it. I did this many years ago with a Manta Ray and had huge fun beating the odd 'proper' buggy with it.

[jimmy]

I think the shell should look great with a proper paint job on it. I am going to get one of these myself. they look fantastic with all the hop ups but yea, very expensive to buy them all!
I'll probably get the slipper and front one-way, the shocks might be a bit over my price range though.

[Nick Goodall]

I am sorely tempted to get one of these and spend a small fortune upgrading it. I did this many years ago with a Manta Ray and had huge fun beating the odd 'proper' buggy with it.

I guess they cost a lot to upgrade too knowing Tamiya??

Looks pretty cool - reminds me of the old school Tamiya's we all had growing up, i haven't seen many new ones for years, i used to love it as a kid looking at the Tamiya catalogues at all the off road cars - Thunder Shot, Terra Scorcher, Manta Ray, Big-Wig, Hornet, Madcap, Boomerang, Frog, Avante etc.

As Chris said they really do choose the most random names but it works :D

[DCM]

B4 turnbuckles, DF02 CVD's on the front, couple of chassis mods, RW layshaft and a B4 slipper, DF03 shocks and it is a good 'un.

I am liking the shell a little more now.

Tamiya, please PLEASE just start naming your chassis with it's designation, like DF03 instead of these embarassing names, lol.

Rob, mine is on it's way to being hopped up, trying to work out which shinny blue bits to use at the moment, and waiting on the 3Racing chassis conversion for it too....

[DCM]

Rob, get yourself on www.3racing.com.hk option parts, tamiya, df03, they got a rendering of thir chassis conversion!!

[jimmy]

couldn't find the chassis pic on their site, but 3racing dont love me anyway.:)

[DCM]

heehee, I like a lot of their stuff...

[jimmy]

They were curtious enough to reply to me telling me to f'off, so thats always a plus point I guess. :p

[jimmy]

Steve, do you know if the tamiya slipper will work with the B4 pads and spur ? same internal diameter ??
I just dont fancy buying metric pinions.

[BenG]

i think steve had a layshaft made up by RW racing;)

[jimmy]

yeah, there's always that one I guess. Its just that he doesn't list it and its a bit of an email jobbie. Easier to put something on the review car that I can tell people where to get it really

[BenG]

try MSNing Steve;)

[DCM]

I don't think it will Jim, it is the typical imperial and metric thing that gets in the way. Just shoot an email to RW Racing for a layshaft and then chuck a B4 unit on there.

[jimmy]

Seen the chassis now, their stuff looks alright, I will probably get official Tamiya stuff if I buy anything though. But I tested my luck by emailing them - again. I love to get shot down.;)

[DCM]

I tried, and I got shot down, so buy the stuff direct from Asia, so still ubber cheap.

[Rob Fitzgerald]

DCM

Is the car out already ?

Do you know where I can get one and pay using PayPal ?

[DCM]

that actual shell model isn't out yet, you can get a Dark Impact and then get the shell.

That car itself drives quite nicely, I got a set of steel outdrives coming for the rear, as the rear diff is a tad fiddly, made a set of carbon towers for it, got the DF-03 shocks (they are like the TRF shocks for the tourers)

[jimmy]

Early december I think its first released Rob. Thats what I was told.


I quite like getting shot down steve, makes me try harder. I hope tamiya will release a hopped up version of this car, its a promising platform.

[DCM]

If they do, they got to sort out the rear suspension, and the way it is mounted, I am hoping 3Racing will allow room for the Saloon suspension mounts, that will give you rear toe and anti-squat adjustment.

I am going to fit the one-way in mine and give it a blast at club in two weeks.

[jimmy]

3rdacing or tamiya one way ? centre of diff ?

I want the diff one way, its the only way to go (pun wholly intended)

[DCM]

I got the centre Tamiya one-way, will run a front one-way outdoors, not indoors though.

[ramblinman]

Wooo found the pic of the 3 racing design...it looks pretty good i think. Wish i had more money :mad:

[jimmy]

3' was a let down as expected but there seems to be a load of manufacturers doing the same stuff for this DF-03 chassis. Tamiya, 3racing, square, kmc, yeah racing. are the ones I found so far.

I know you don't like it steve, but I just saw the latest version of the KM Concept conversion and I think it looks rather nice. Ok, the cell layout concept of the car has been ignored totally, but I still like it.
http://www.km-rc.com/oscommerce/catalog/images/DIK-100.jpg
how many stickers on that wing ? :rolleyes:

[DCM]

I am going off both, 3Racing refuse to add a few more mm's of carbon fibre at the rear to give you the option of running suspension blocks... grrrr

I do like the 3Racing stuff, works out nice and cheap.

[jimmy]

yea it is cheap for sure, never had any so I cant comment on quality. Shame they don't listen - saw your post in their forum, I guess they aren't interested! would be nice to have proper mounts on - not sure how it would work with the gearbox but hey

[DCM]

just dremmel the lugs off shoud be fine, take the stress off the gearbox...

[Rob Fitzgerald]

I have ordered my Dark Impact and one of the RW layshafts.

I will give it a race and see what I think before I throw any more money at it though.

What wheels fit (and stay legal width) ?

[jimmy]

Where'd you get the RW layshaft rob ? I tried to get on the website and couldn't

edit: must have just been down, works now.

[DCM]

Rob, if yo ucan, chuck a set of DF-02 Tamiya front CVD's on it, otherwise, in race trim, the thing will shear the dogbones (they pop out and then bend/snap)

DF03 wheels fit, you can get the older 'star' type Tamiya wheels to fit, but it needs a little dremmel work at the rear to stop the wishbones snagging the webbing of the wheel.

[jimmy]

what is DF02 ? gravel hound ? are they the same size ?

[DCM]

DF-02 is a Gravel Hound, but don't be tempted to buy the cheap ones for the DF-02, as the Tamiya ones require different diff-outdrives on the DF-02 but are a direct fit on the DF-03.

Also, 3Racing do them now, I might give mine a blast next weekend in practice at my local club.

[dan_kitty]

Hi steve im in need of new rear outdrives for mine, what ones would you recomend? also last time you saw mine going around the track you recomended a different shock setup but I cant remember what u said, if you recall the backend was bouncing up and down like a pogo stick. Hopefully will get mine running again soon but i have appeared to have lost a screw, the one that goes underneath the front c-hub which holds the steering knuckle inplace, any ideas where i can get one easily?

cheers in advance

dan

[Rob Fitzgerald]

I have scoured ebay for some genuine Tamiya driveshafts with no luck. Any ideas anyone ?

[jimmy]

Whats up with the rear outdrives ? is there a problem there steve ?

[dan_kitty]

mine have just worn away from the dogbones rattling about, need some proper drivshifts for them i think.

[DCM]

fusion hobbies (www.fusionhobbies.com) will have genuine DF02 CVD's, the 3Racing ones would be ok for the rear, but the Tamiya ones are far tougher.

Outdrives, the rear ones are an odd setup, plastic holder for the diff-ring, steel outdrive. The wear is caused by the fact that there is waaaaaaaaaay too much droop, I am looking at between 5+10mm inner spacer for indoor racing. I can't find Tamiya outdrives at the moment, I got a set of fronts coming to go on the rear (they should fit) then you are welcome to my spare ones.

3Racing got some rear outdrives on their site, just not released as yet.

[Rob Fitzgerald]

Fusion are showing no stock :(

[DCM]

email or give them a bell Rob, they can check on Hobby Co stock levels and have them to you pretty quick if Hobby Co do have them, if they don't, you might have to go to stellamodels or dinball and do a rush shipment for the weekend.

[Rob Fitzgerald]

No Stock at HC

I don't seem to be able to find them anywhere in the world at the moment :o

[DCM]

good grief, Tamiya must be on 'back order' then, ebay and tamiyaclub might be your best option then Rob.

[stefke]

Have you tried one of the Hong Kong suppliers like rcmart, stellamodels or rc-mushroom ? They're dirt cheap, offer good service and always carry a lot of Tamiya, 3racing, GPM, ... stuff

[DCM]

I didn't check rc-mushroom, got their web adress?

[Rob Fitzgerald]

Not tried rc mushroom ? yet but am getting pretty crabby now. I have the car now (arrived today) and the RW layshaft but can't get any flippin driveshafts - absaloutely typical Tamiya - except now I cant find any world wide.

[jimmy]

For such a recent and high profile car thats a bit shocking.

Are there no alternatives ? I know Square do them and YEAH RACING also - I have no idea about quality though (yet).

Is it the Impact that you got Rob ?

I have a bunch of alloy bits on the way for mine, I called RW and Emailed but got no answer so will get the Tamiya slipper and just suffer the tooth noise with 48dp pinions.

[stefke]

I didn't check rc-mushroom, got their web adress?

http://www.rc-mushroom.com/

I buy sometimes at rcmart. Good service and HUGE product range.

http://www.rcmart.com/

[bender]

Try here for DF02 driveshafts:

http://www.rcstation.com/eshop/catalog/index.php?cPath=74_142_240&sort=3a&page=2
:)

[Elliott Hopkins]

The Japanese gent known as Grahoo, has his early release Keen Hawk up on Tamiyaclub. It actually looks really good.

Elliott.

[HairySteve]

Try a guy on ebay called jr-rc he breaks kits up and sells the parts, I got a full bearing set off him for about 4 quid :D Also if you're after hardened diff oudrives that don't break up, look on the 3racing web site, I ordered 2 full sets off them at the same time as my chassis and towers, they're a lot nicer than the tamiya stock ones and are the same type front and rear (although still specific to each end) and have lightening holes milled in them.
-Steve

[Rods]

Dont want to beat a dead horse but is the KEEN a cheaper version of the DF3 like shocks and such ????

[DCM]

no, it appears to be a DF03 with a different shell and wing, and what a cracking shell it is too!!!

[jimmy]

Yeah, I really like that shell

[DCM]

I think I might just order up the shell....

[Elliott Hopkins]

*bleurgh* :)

Sadly it's growing on me. I'd prefer a hybrid of the two. A smoother DI with a top air intake.

Elliott.

[neiloliver]

The shell is great, the one of Tamiyaclub looks better than the one at the start of this thread.. its one of those shells that looks great at certain angles.. By the way, I sold my DI kit in the end... shipped it unopened after selling it on ebay... it is for someones Xmas, so i hope they give it a good home. A buggy is for life, not just for Christmas.
N

[Rods]

I saw some on ebay had 5 of them they were prepainted limited editions he said , thought about getting one