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vinny20
03-09-2008, 10:24 PM
Iv always wanted to ask the question how much would it cost to buy an rc company like KYOSHO,XRAY,TAMIYA ect

Gaz_Stanton
03-09-2008, 10:28 PM
depends what nearly new company you have to swap for it...

jono83
03-09-2008, 10:31 PM
if you would of saved all the money you spent on speedos you could of probably bought all of the above !!!!!! lol :)

James
03-09-2008, 10:32 PM
You can pull their accounts from companies house if they're a UK company, or the relevant organisation for other countries should be able to get a reasonable idea of value, if theyre making a profit, what assets they own etc...Assuming they're a limited company that is.

Kyosho and Tamiya would be substantialy bigger companies than X-Ray i would imagine.

vinny20
03-09-2008, 10:34 PM
Just wanna know how much anyone know

vinny20
03-09-2008, 10:35 PM
Kyosho and Tamiya would be substantialy bigger companies than X-Ray i would imagine.[/quote]


WOW i thought xray was bigger than kyosho not tamiya

DCM
03-09-2008, 10:37 PM
well, it all depends on how much they have, facilities, equipment.... stock, future sales... and how much you want it....

Just like my Espace is worth about £1800 but if you really REALLY wanted it... £2300

jono83
03-09-2008, 10:38 PM
without doing the relevant research its hard to say

vinny20
03-09-2008, 10:45 PM
Ok im guessing now i would say about quater of a million its a guess

jono83
03-09-2008, 10:47 PM
i suspect it would be more than that

DCM
03-09-2008, 10:48 PM
more like £10mil min for XRAY, got to take into account, facilities and product range, sales forecasts etc.... intellectual rights ...... £250,000 is a decent model shop

vinny20
03-09-2008, 11:01 PM
10 mil for xray so how much kyosho or tamiya

jono83
03-09-2008, 11:04 PM
these are approx figures vinny do your own research if ya the desperate to find out

vinny20
03-09-2008, 11:11 PM
sorry dude my internet is keep freezing at the mo but yeah i will have a look

DCM
03-09-2008, 11:11 PM
10 mil for xray so how much kyosho or tamiya

it was just hypothetical dude.... you would pay more for a UK distributor, than 250K..... it is never as simple as saying, how much is that car/house/thai bride.

Anyhows, wasting sleeping time over this....

ben
03-09-2008, 11:17 PM
I bet team associated are gonna have 10 emails in the morning saying" how much are you worth?"

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Please replyyyyyy.....

terry.sc
03-09-2008, 11:17 PM
I seem to recall Thunder Tiger paid $15-20 million for Associated.

BTW Figures are from a couple of years ago, the worlds biggest r/c companies are:
1) Tamiya total annual sales $97m
2) Kyosho total annual sales $70m
3) Futaba/OS total annual sales $57m
4) Thunder Tiger total annual sales $44m

So if you want to buy Tamiya you'd better start with a $100million opening bid.

And Xray is a small company in the overall scheme of r/c - most of their products are aimed at the competition market which is tiny compared to bashers.

cjm_2008
04-09-2008, 05:11 AM
bump.

SlowOne
04-09-2008, 07:27 PM
What a company is worth will depend on its profits, and its goodwill (reputation, intellectual property, brand image, etc.) not just it's size, or market share.

In general, a company is worth 10 to 20 times its profits, plus anything for its goodwill and any premium based on the circumstances of the sale. If a company has a huge turnover, but no profit, its not worth a light (Northern Rock). However, if it has a small turnover, and large profits, it can be worth a fortune (Porsche).

Any decent RC company is going to cost in the scores of milliions of dollars to buy, and if it is Tamiya (look at all that goodwill, by its reputation) then a lot more than that! However, the barriers to entry into the market are quite small, so the cheapest way to 'buy' and RC company is to start your own. After all, that's how they've all got to be where they are now - someone started them in teh recent past, and put the work in to make them what they are now.

And one last thing to remember - the easiest way to make a small fortune is to start with a large one! :)

Lee
09-09-2008, 04:19 PM
When i saw the title i just thought you wanted a mate v-mag, im gutted now. Anyway 250K is nothing nowadays, thats just over the average house in the uk so your not going to buy a whole warehouse and factory filled to the brim with stock and chinese people filling packets with parts. I reckon you could just about buy nortech for it though.

Are you thinking of buying one vinny or are you just looking at the moment?


I think tamiya could be part ex`d for your new B4 and some cash but you would have to fit a thrust race to it, they do actually do something you know its not just a fancy spacer :thumbsup:

Southwell
09-09-2008, 04:25 PM
100 Hundred Billion Dollars!!

http://zerotosixty.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/medium_dr_evil_1.jpg

DCM
09-09-2008, 05:04 PM
class Ian.... class

josh_smaxx
09-09-2008, 05:06 PM
I think tamiya could be part ex`d for your new B4 and some cash but you would have to fit a thrust race to it, they do actually do something you know its not just a fancy spacer :thumbsup:

Haha, that made me laugh.

When can i have my X6 back? :p

ben
09-09-2008, 05:08 PM
When can i have my X6 back? :p

LMAO did you not see the ebay listing? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

josh_smaxx
09-09-2008, 05:08 PM
LMAO did you not see the ebay listing? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

No, linky?

ben
09-09-2008, 05:12 PM
haha ur gullable :woot:

Lee
09-09-2008, 05:15 PM
I can try and drop it off at the weekend Josh cheers dude :thumbsup:

josh_smaxx
09-09-2008, 05:15 PM
Haha, i wish it were possible to type sarcasm because then you wouldnt have wasted that last post on something meaningless.

josh_smaxx
09-09-2008, 05:16 PM
I can try and drop it off at the weekend Josh cheers dude :thumbsup:

Cheers

glypo
09-09-2008, 05:44 PM
Gotta love public companies:

http://finance.google.co.uk/finance?q=TPE:8033

Check out the Market Capitalisation.... anyone feeling rich? (1.2 billion TWB is roughly £23 million).

Scary thing though, zoom out and see the massive decline on the graph.

Spoolio
09-09-2008, 06:39 PM
ooo-errrr, should I stock up on Associated spares now before they hit the wall?

Anyway, I think the opportunity has passed as the last car co that went cheap was Rover (£10 whole quid) and look what happened there!

Neil Skull
13-09-2008, 09:07 PM
I dont know where those prices came from for for company value but they seem a way off to me.

I remember when Kyosho uk took over from Ripmax they paid £250k just for the stock most of which was dead.

BTW dont confuse distributor with manufacturer i suspect the figures are the turn over of some of the distributors.