Tamiya F1

[siddus74]

Hi Guys, Stuart and I have a couple of Tamiya F1's that we run at Broxtowe, im hoping to get down to Westbridgeford this Friday and Stuart is coming as well.

We are planning to run them in the clubman if thats ok? (as its quite away I think I will bring my tamiya FF03 as a backup car)

Can anybody see any issues with the above?

Regards Scott.

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[Chris56]

No problems at guys - Paul often runs his modded F103 with Le Mans shell in that class.

Im running an FF01 this friday if you do want the break out the FF03:thumbsup:

[siddus74]

Thanks for the quick reply ... let just hope I get back from London intime ... speak to you Friday Chris.

It looked like this before last week ...

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Scott.

[siddus74]

Chris, do you run your FF01 in the clubman?

[Chris56]

Yes I do - its effectively a Tamiya class, we also have people running Minis, TL/TT01s and even a small cohort of Holiday Buggies

[siddus74]

I ran my holiday buggy a couple of weeks ago .. great fun ... what motor do you have in your FF03 ...

I have the stock 21.5 brushless in the F1 as per the rule book ... essentially the same just with better brakes and more effecient Ive been told?

scott.

[cunawarit]

Chris has a 13T sensorless brushless in the FF01. But don't let that stop you from putting something slower in your FF03 ;)

Most people are running silvercans or high turn brushed motors. 23 to 27T should be perfect. Peter was running a rebuild-able 27T in his Mini and on the straights we were dead even, I am running a very rusty and old sealed can 23T in my TL01. The Holiday buggies are running silvercans, on the straights they can't touch me (or Peter's Mini) but they seem to have pretty nice acceleration out of the turns in the infield, better than me at least!

PS: Always nice to see more Tamiyas in Clubman :)

[siddus74]

Good to hear that a mix of motors are allow .. my FF03 has a blink 17.5 brishless which I think is classed as stock touring :thumbsup:

Scott.

[cunawarit]

That's cool :) stock touring sounds about perfect :thumbsup:

[The Doctor]

Would be good to see some F1s running. Might bring back the Jag especially. Although I must admit that running off-road again last week was really good fun. Bit different to a pan car...:lol:

[siddus74]

Planning to run my other F1's tonight ... Im loving the Clubman class ... so flexiable, not worried about winning just being able to run my stuff ... well done

Scott.

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[cunawarit]

Im loving the Clubman class ... so flexiable, not worried about winning just being able to run my stuff ... well done

That's the spirit of Clubman :) A class about driving and style more than out and out speed.

Also if you run that Tyrrell then that's at least in my view the coolest car I've ever seen at the club by a huge margin! And surely cements Clubman as a class worth developing and cherishing.

I'm loving racing my old TL01, it gets better with every outing and so far I've not broken anything. Makes a huge change from attempting to run it amongst the Outlaws last year where a break would occur 3 or 4 laps in at most.

Talking of cool cars, what I'd personally love to run in Clubman is a Tamiya Street Devil:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/5892335131_3e7b894e73_b_zps9a70a8ac.jpg


But I've not seen one for sale in years...

[The Doctor]

Oh yes, that Tyrrell is beautiful. Are you running it tonight? I love that. :thumbsup:

[Dave Dodd]

Awesome, cant wait to see it :thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

Me neither, I'll be taking my camera down!

[Chris56]

Looked awesome on tracxk - plus it beat the Shamcar by 1 second in the final!

Dave, didn't I hear you mention that there is a 1 second penalty for each additional wheel a car has?

[siddus74]

Great to get down and run the F1's again this week ...good chatting to you all, thanks for the use of the soldering Iron fella (dont know your name as yet)

Cant beleive that the Tyrrell didnt sustain any damage! a set of frotn wheel bearings arrived today from malasia, cheap as chips ...

Ill run my FF03 next time I come down ...

And yes that Street Devil is so cool. :thumbsup:

Scott.

[The Doctor]

The Tyrrell looked awesome Scott. And no worries about lending you the soldering iron. Next time though we want to see some '70s style celebrations after the race!

Cheers,
Paul 'avin a rest-a.

[Robbiejuk]

Looked awesome on tracxk - plus it beat the Shamcar by 1 second in the final!

Dave, didn't I hear you mention that there is a 1 second penalty for each additional wheel a car has?

No but you have a five place penalty for a gearbox change.

[Chris56]

No but you have a five place penalty for a gearbox change.

Doh! although I would question the term "gearbox" though - more like the paper cogs from a pepper mill and a bit of superglue:lol:

[cunawarit]

The F1s:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3805/10392726845_b251c6433d_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2835/10392917683_4dbd5f59a1_b.jpg

That Tyrrell is way better than I thought it would be BTW!

[Chris56]

Im quite tempted with this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-84122-1-10-RC-Car-Kit-F104W-Lotus-Type-79-1-10-F-104-W-/400574960635?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item5d4420d3fb

One of my all-time favourite F1 cars.

[cunawarit]

LOL! I've been looking at F1s too. That and TT02s, I can't help it, I like plastic fantastic Tamiyas.

[cunawarit]

Actually, I've just bought myself a Ferrari F430 body for the TL01, proper Tamiya body too. Will match the other sports cars on track. A gift to myself for Christmas I guess.

PS: Yeah, it is 3am and I just finished work.

[Chris56]

Tamiya shell? - and you call yourself a member of Team Shambles?:p:p

Should have gone for this:

https://www.rcgeeks.co.uk/image/cache/data/Shells/002Y-1-180x120.jpg

Ferrati Exzo with a prancing seahorse on the badge (look closely):thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

On a side note, i've treated myself to a new chassis for the Shamcar - I figured superglue wasn't the best fix afterall:lol:

[cunawarit]

lol, I did look at that shell and decided against it in 2 or 3 seconds.

I know they don't last long, but I'd rather have a shell that looks like a real car than some cr*ppy interpretation. I do appreciate the comedy value though :)

[Chris56]

You shouldn't need the offset wheel hexes if you use a Tamiya shell.

I did have an old school Parma Mondeo shell that I used on my old F1 chassis and then threw in the bin - looking back I should have saved it as it would have been perfect for the FF01

[cunawarit]

Parma makes some nice stuff :)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/1_zpsc0f2542f.jpg

Gangstar Custom

Clearly Cadzilla inspired :)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/1_zpsb3124fd4.jpg

I actually considered it over the Ferrari, but for performance reasons I went for the lower shell that's not half a mile thick lexan :) Plus there's no way I could fit a wing on it.

[Chris56]

They are really cool - I also had one of their oversized touring car shells on my buggy with foam tyres. Looked wierd but it worked

[cunawarit]

yeah, I remember those early extra wide touring cars in the 90s :)

I might eventually get the kustom Cadzilla shell and run it late in the winter season for a laugh :) They pop up on Ebay fully painted from the USA relatively often... I'd have to get gold wire wheels, something that looks like classic Dayton wheels for that cool lowrider look.

[cunawarit]

You shouldn't need the offset wheel hexes if you use a Tamiya shell.

Well, right now I am experimenting with different front and rear tracks as a way of calming down the car a bit (as in front wider than the rear). The stupid caster doesn't help...

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/594c6640-fe3c-4317-a8a8-e379435710ee_zps5a4e0bc7.jpg

By comparison your FF01 seems to have like 5 degrees of caster the proper way! Imagine a 1:1 car that handles like the TL01. Awesome on a twisty mountain road.... A Blue Ridge Parkway special that is perfect on twisty roads but forces you to correct violently down the motorway switching quickly and unintentionally between 3 or 4 lanes.

PS: Apparently the thing to do is to get the TL01LA upgrade, it fixes the issue. But it is quite pricey as it upgrades every single suspension component other than the shocks... Plus it is rare nowadays!

[Chris56]

That is some strange caster! Have you tried swapping the c hubs or adding some shims under the rear edge of the pivot block?

[cunawarit]

Yes, it makes no difference the c hubs are not directional.

This guy came across the same issue: http://www.rccartips.com/rc-car-tamiya-tl01-fast.htm

His solution was to use TA04 steering blocks, it is a way cheaper fix than the TL01LA upgrade. I'll probably need to use some chopped up Traxxas turnbuckles though as it looks like the camber link length will be much longer.

There is also this out of production Tamiya upgrade:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/53223_zps2b8b97df.png

It pops up on Ebay every once in a while at around $80! NO WAY!!!!!

[Chris56]

ouch - you could get 3 x FF01s for that;)

I have got a spare front geometry setup if you want to try it tomorrow.

[cunawarit]

ouch - you could get 3 x FF01s for that;)

I have got a spare front geometry setup if you want to try it tomorrow.

yeah cool :) I'll give it a go! The key is that the caster should be on the c hub an not just the suspension mount.

Any thoughts on the TB04? Is it clubman material? With the appropriate slow motor and cool non-TC shell of course. Everyone seems to be going F1, but I'd rather have something that can run road car shells :)

[Chris56]

Any thoughts on the TB04? Is it clubman material? With the appropriate slow motor

Clubman for sure. It would also work in the tc class but they're running BRCA rules whereas anything can go in the clubman so long as its not freakishly fast.
Are you temped?

[cunawarit]

Problem is I am tempted by too many cars, lol!

TT02, TB04 look good :)

F1 would be cool too, but at the rate that everyone is getting F1s I find myself thinking that the TT02 or TB04 would be cooler just in the sense of being different to everyone else ;)

[Chris56]

what about a punt on this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-TA03-R-Mugen-Honda-Radio-Control-Car-RC-Vintage-/200976938572?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item2ecb28b64c

Front motor but 4wd

or this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vintage-tamiya-TA01-tigerstripe-RS-cosworth-1-10-rc-rally-car-/281190768524?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item4178469f8c

[cunawarit]

I've decided on a car already :) I did look at the XV-01 which is front motored and 4WD too. But after dealing with a car with such overly twitchy steering can you blame me for thinking that perhaps I don't want a front motored car? ;)

[cunawarit]

Caster solution! Did a bit of investigation and research with some guys at a Tamiya forum. Solution is TG10 caster blocks.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l186/mv75/RC/IMG_0168_zps369db481.jpg

Ordered mine already...

[siddus74]

LOL! I've been looking at F1s too. That and TT02s, I can't help it, I like plastic fantastic Tamiyas.

Brilliant .. the 6 wheeler is so fun to drive and handled quite well, very ballanced ...

Scott.