Indoor racing over the Winter.

[woOdy]

I think we have found a venue for racing inside over the Winter. Great location, near the motoway and a big track size. Another room for pitting in with power. I am going to book this, so all I need is how many hours do you want to race? It is going to be maybe once a month unless you want more and also around the dates of Worksop and Batley. It is going to be Sundays so I need to know how many hours you want to race for? We can have it all day if you want, just let me know and I will book it.:thumbsup:

[_sleigh_]

Hey Stu, I know you're probably aiming this at your regular club members, but when you get firm details for the meetings let me know as I'd be interested. :thumbsup:

[woOdy]

Hey Stu, I know you're probably aiming this at your regular club members, but when you get firm details for the meetings let me know as I'd be interested. :thumbsup:

Thanks mate. I will defo let you know.

[bigred5765]

us to stu, let us know mattys well up for that
sorry we couldnt make the meeting last week wife had to work,

[MikePimlott]

Stu,

When weve been to Batley i think they have had the sports hall from 10 till 4.30 ? (may need to be confirmed)
This has been enough time to set out track race 4 heats and finals and put track away.

[The race controller]

I think we have found a venue for racing inside over the Winter. Great location, near the motoway and a big track size. Another room for pitting in with power. I am going to book this, so all I need is how many hours do you want to race? It is going to be maybe once a month unless you want more and also around the dates of Worksop and Batley. It is going to be Sundays so I need to know how many hours you want to race for? We can have it all day if you want, just let me know and I will book it.:thumbsup:


Anybody got contacts for "racing surface" ???
Carpet, Canvas Sheet, or how about 2nd hand indoor bowling mat.

[Jonesy]

Hey Stu, I know you're probably aiming this at your regular club members, but when you get firm details for the meetings let me know as I'd be interested. :thumbsup:

I will also be interested Stu, drop us the details later on!

[matdodd]

Let me know to Stu please :)

[Jamie B4]

Let me know aswell stu, if I can make it I will:thumbsup:

[Jonathan]

Liking the sound of this a lot. :thumbsup:

[DaveG28]

Count me in too!

[Mossy]

U know ill be there dude work permittin, like i said Sunday.

[terry.sc]

Anybody got contacts for "racing surface" ???Can't help with any second hand stuff, but the carpet most clubs use (and it's designed specifically for r/c cars) is Primatrack GT, from Vaughans of Leicester (http://www.primadirect.co.uk/) Worked out about £4 per square metre last time I contacted them. A cheaper alternative is their Prima Duo carpet, thinner, so easier to lift but doesn't last for years like the good stuff, works out about a quarter of the price.

[Jez]

bummer,just thrown 3 rolls of carpet in skip.never mind.theres a place near me that does contract carpets,can make enquiries if you want.wifes dad made some small jumps/ramps for us,seeing as hes retired im sure he would make you some up.about 5ft wide ok?or let me know.more than happy to help you stu.put me down for racing.think vinny coming too.can you make provisions for 1/12th scale?whats the deal with trackside support?you got anyone in mind?catcha later mate.cant wait to race at bury.many thanks jez.:thumbsup:

[vinny20]

bummer,just thrown 3 rolls of carpet in skip.never mind.theres a place near me that does contract carpets,can make enquiries if you want.wifes dad made some small jumps/ramps for us,seeing as hes retired im sure he would make you some up.about 5ft wide ok?or let me know.more than happy to help you stu.put me down for racing.think vinny coming too.can you make provisions for 1/12th scale?whats the deal with trackside support?you got anyone in mind?catcha later mate.cant wait to race at bury.many thanks jez.:thumbsup:




have u checked your pm's jez

[Col]

us to stu, let us know mattys well up for that
sorry we couldnt make the meeting last week wife had to work,

I will also be interested Stu, drop us the details later on!

Let me know to Stu please :)

Let me know aswell stu, if I can make it I will:thumbsup:

Liking the sound of this a lot. :thumbsup:

Count me in too!

U know ill be there dude work permittin, like i said Sunday.

I believe the question was How many hours do you want it for!!!!

[_sleigh_]

I suspect that without all those people you quoted showing interest, then you and Stu will only need the hall for about an hour for the two of you to race in. :p

[Col]

I really should keep my nose out - I live in York and don't race at Bury (unfortunatley!)
Still, the question remains unanswered.

[_sleigh_]

Well, to kinda answer Woody's question.

I'd think the hours required are proporational to the number of racers on the day. So to get an idea of the likely number of drivers should help, but for the first couple of meetings I'd probably go for 10:00-16:00. It gives a relaxed start time and the entry numbers can always be limited if it becomes popular.


BTW Col, I was only pulling your leg, as I started the "I'm interested replies"

[The race controller]

bummer,just thrown 3 rolls of carpet in skip.never mind.theres a place near me that does contract carpets,can make enquiries if you want.wifes dad made some small jumps/ramps for us,seeing as hes retired im sure he would make you some up.about 5ft wide ok?or let me know.more than happy to help you stu.put me down for racing.think vinny coming too.can you make provisions for 1/12th scale?whats the deal with trackside support?you got anyone in mind?catcha later mate.cant wait to race at bury.many thanks jez.:thumbsup:

Thanks Jez, Stu bought me a super saw for my 60th and I made the portable/adjustable jump down at the GOSHEN. That one is OK isn't it?
But any Ideas you have regarding the shape of jumps would be welcome.

[The race controller]

Can't help with any second hand stuff, but the carpet most clubs use (and it's designed specifically for r/c cars) is Primatrack GT, from Vaughans of Leicester (http://www.primadirect.co.uk/) Worked out about £4 per square metre last time I contacted them. A cheaper alternative is their Prima Duo carpet, thinner, so easier to lift but doesn't last for years like the good stuff, works out about a quarter of the price.

Cheers for that. Just talked to them and they are sending a sample of the PrimaDuo which they recomend for rolling up.

[The race controller]

Anybody got contacts for "racing surface" ???
Carpet, Canvas Sheet, or how about 2nd hand indoor bowling mat.


I've got eight fire hoses. All we need to know now is HOW DO WE GET IT TO STAND UP.

No! Viagra won't work...

[njc11]

Here we go, some pics of the possible new venue :woot:

Just 2mins from the M60 Junc 21..

http://www.cls.eclipse.co.uk/RCCars/Image001a.jpg

http://www.cls.eclipse.co.uk/RCCars/Image003a.jpg

The type of flooring.. running spikes are used on this!! (do you reckon mini pins / spikes would mark the floor??)

http://www.cls.eclipse.co.uk/RCCars/Image005a.jpg

http://www.cls.eclipse.co.uk/RCCars/Image006a.jpg

Plenty of storage too... power etc available..

http://www.cls.eclipse.co.uk/RCCars/Image004a.jpg

All we need to do is go down with a few cars and see what the score is regarding tyres and possible marking... but other than that the place is ours.

Its a brand new set up and believe its impressive.. plenty of parking etc and also there was the possiblity of an outside track.. the only thing it lacks is catering.. so its a case of bring your own grub or visit the McDonalds / Subway etc which are just round the corner..

Cheers

Nick
:thumbsup:

[Northy]

Looks the same as Worksop floor wise, Yellow minipins or minispikes.

G

[njc11]

Looks the same as Worksop floor wise, Yellow minipins or minispikes.

G

Do you know if the tyres mark the floor at Worksop??

Cheers

Nick

[Northy]

No they don't, we have been racing on and off for years at the same venue with the same floor.

Now if someone gets stuck on a pipe, and 'lights them up' then that *might* mark the floor.

G

[MikePimlott]

Looks very similar to the floor we raced on at dom valley. that was also an indoor running venue. Schumacher minipins did'nt mark that floor either.

Looks good :thumbsup:

[The race controller]

Do you know if the tyres mark the floor at Worksop??

Cheers

Nick

Won't need to buy loads of carpet then.

But I don't like the look of that high jump.

[bigred5765]

when we were running chorley we use to seal the ends on the hose fit a tubeless tyre valve and blow em up,

[_sleigh_]

We used to do that at one of my old clubs. We also came up with a clamp that was attached after the hose was inflated, so it could be bent round corners easily

[The race controller]

I've got eight fire hoses. All we need to know now is HOW DO WE GET IT TO STAND UP.

No! Viagra won't work...

My first idea:-
http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/images/little1.jpg
http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/images/little2.jpg
http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/images/little3.jpg

what do you think ? Sticky tape would be needed though.

[_sleigh_]

Sweet.. Looks like a good idea and gaffer tape should hold them down nicely.

Either that, or could you weld a few spikes on the bottom (similar to running spikes) Then just stick them into the floor.

[Jonesy]

Back in the day we used to peg them in the ground (that was outdoors though............)!

I like Phil's idea of adding a spike onto the bottom, one that is similar to what is used by athletes.

Surely the spikes are quite cheap and can probably be bought from somewhere like JJB Sports (as an example)

[J_WOODY]

will you be running a league table for points, and will you be running 2wd + 4wd classes seperate, assuming you get enough people at the venue?

[qatmix]

I just want to check that its buggy racing you will be doing there? or a mixture? I'm definitely interested any way :)

[Jez]

Thanks Jez, Stu bought me a super saw for my 60th and I made the portable/adjustable jump down at the GOSHEN. That one is OK isn't it?
But any Ideas you have regarding the shape of jumps would be welcome.how about big-like me?

[woOdy]

will you be running a league table for points, and will you be running 2wd + 4wd classes seperate, assuming you get enough people at the venue?

Yes there will be. and yes 2+4wd.

[woOdy]

I just want to check that its buggy racing you will be doing there? or a mixture? I'm definitely interested any way :)


Only Off road not boring cars.LOL.:thumbsup:

[burgie]

will that style of barrier and support be strong enough to stop buggies simply driving over them? I would have thought that you would need very many pegs placed very close together to give the barrier any strength at all?

Looks like a good venue though.

[danDanEFC]

Looks like a good venue though.

Its even got a sand pit:thumbsup:

[pugboy]

Looks a great venue.

What about a sand filling in the hoses in sections, say 3m long sections that could be dragged into position from a store once the carpet is down.

Cheers

Chris

[DanW]

In the old days of the Liverpool club we used to have sand filled hoses.

They are quite good for staying in position, but to be flexible enough to bend round corners you can only half fill them. hence they tend to be a bit flat and don't do much to stop cars straying over.

It might be an idea to fill the first 2 metres packed full of sand, then clamp the next 4 inches closed (with nuts and bolts or soemthing), then fill the next 2 metres full and clamp the next 4 inches closed etc etc.

You could make up full lengths of hose then, that are sturdy and heavy but have flexible joints at section intervals to allow folding up and bending around corners.

[WHITTLER555]

Woody, Roger, this looks like the answer to Winter racing in the North West, as regards flooring, the pictures look like it is rubberised, I just wonder what damage a car could do to the floor if it turned upside down at speed, probably cut the floor and break the car.

I have a potential solution though that could help. I will PM you some info.:thumbsup:

[burgie]

Woody, Roger, this looks like the answer to Winter racing in the North West, .....:thumbsup:

I agree...i have always struggled to find winter racing in the northwest :p

[The race controller]

Woody, Roger, this looks like the answer to Winter racing in the North West, as regards flooring, the pictures look like it is rubberised, I just wonder what damage a car could do to the floor if it turned upside down at speed, probably cut the floor and break the car.

I have a potential solution though that could help. I will PM you some info.:thumbsup:

Do you mean the shock tower protectors i.e clear bottle/lexan as a shock absorber.

[WHITTLER555]

I agree...i have always struggled to find winter racing in the northwest :p

Hello Burgie, I guess you are referring to Southport, which is fair enough.

It takes me about 1hr 15mins to get to Southport or 1hr 45mins to go to Worksop, no offence but Worksop is somewhat larger, unless you have moved from the school where the Southport Supercup takes place.

I know size is not everything.....

If Bury get this venue and it is suitable it will take me 30mins to get there, I am sure you will agree that if your track was not as local to you, you might think twice about driving a fair way on a cold winters morning BRRRRR!!!:p

[Chrislong]

Good news on the venue. What is the address? I don't recognise it.

Any testing, visiting, help needed, so let me or my dad know.

It looks like a Schumacher Minipin surface - in that it looks like Worksop, they don't mark that surface but without testing I wouldn't presume that they won't mark this. Is there any carpet available to lay down if it does mark easily?

Chris

[The race controller]

I've got eight fire hoses. All we need to know now is HOW DO WE GET IT TO STAND UP.

No! Viagra won't work...

There's going to be a lot of work involved with the steel brackets so I've been playing with inflating them. Really good, nice bends or curves and the more air the straighter they get. Unfortunately I can't seem to seal the ends. Best result yet is a bracket welded out of two bits of angle iron and bolts through one side to form a vice. Again more welding. AND the air valves seem to be like rocking horse s h one t. ...............Any volunteers ??

[_sleigh_]

This may not be cost effective for the club, but could you not look at the same track making idea as Worksop. I believe this is up-turned guttering in 3m or 5m lengths, with gaffer taped joints.

[bigred5765]

get some old motorcycle inner tubes and cut out the valves you can put them through from one end and the nut that would go on the outside of the rim goes on the out side of the tube, to seal the end's, add silicone sealer at the end fold over and roll up once or twice and clamp with a mole gripp, or make a round bung silicone it in and jubilee clip that

[The race controller]

get some old motorcycle inner tubes and cut out the valves you can put them through from one end and the nut that would go on the outside of the rim goes on the out side of the tube, to seal the end's, add silicone sealer at the end fold over and roll up once or twice and clamp with a mole gripp, or make a round bung silicone it in and jubilee clip that
.....That what ?...Leaks. yeh been there.

[MikePimlott]

Why fill them with air ?

Use builders foam a little squirt here and there and it holds them up. Sets hard and its light so easy to carry and store

[The race controller]

Why fill them with air ?

Use builders foam a little squirt here and there and it holds them up. Sets hard and its light so easy to carry and store

Might be light but think of the volume. Eight hoses ????
Think back Mike, at Leigh we had TWO hoses half filled with blocks of wood and they took up half a container.

[bigred5765]

.....That what ?...Leaks. yeh been there.

or make a round bung silicone it in and jubilee clip that

[MikePimlott]

Might be light but think of the volume. Eight hoses ????

You dont need to fill the entire hose. Just a squirt every meter or so would be plenty.

[Stu]

Venue looks great. Bit difficult to gauge size but it certainly looks big enough.

Hose looks good - is it old West Craven stuff - looks familiar.

Why does it have to stand up? For club racing if someone decided to start cutting the track - well - the jokes on them. If it is the old West Craven stuff we just used to lay it out in the sports hall at Towneley school and let it flop about in loops to make the track - it was no problem - it's only a track marker.

It may be a little difficlt to see - red on red - spray it white with some car paint?

[sly]

....

[woOdy]

We are going down for 14:00 today to see if the car marks the floor and hopfully we will get some date with the manager of the building so hopefully we will know soon!:thumbsup:

[woOdy]

It has been booked! IT is the big place in the pictures and there is loads of grip. We had worn minispikes on and it was cool. The first meeting is on the 2nd november and doors open at 10 and racing should start at 11 ish. There is a couple of rules though! You can only drink water in the main hall. NO playing in the sand pit and Do not brake anything. It been over 15 years since we had an indoor venue and this is 1 of the best I have ever seen. Much like Worksop but grippier and brand new. More info to follow.

[bigred5765]

well Stu you can book Matty in 2wd for a start, thanks for putting in the effort guys, it is appreciated cant wait now,

[jimmy]

Sounds good, why is the hall not being used for sports? Seems strange that it's even available to crazy people like us. Now it's just a case of building some awesome jumps! :lol:

[njc11]

Sounds good, why is the hall not being used for sports? Seems strange that it's even available to crazy people like us. Now it's just a case of building some awesome jumps! :lol:

Jimmy,

Sunday is the only day they have free!! so we are lucky.. the facility has only just opened so i guess not many people now about it yet..

The school owns the building and is used by the school in school hours.. But according to Paul the manager they are getting more enquiries, so i think we got there i the "nick" of time lol!!

Shall we start a separate thread for people to book in?? and send money in advance? I think we need to to make sure people who book in will actually turn up...??? So i think the money up front? (the facility aint cheap!!)

Cheers

Nick
:thumbsup:

[Stu]

It's in my diary.

[The race controller]

[quote=Stu;160279]

Hose looks good - is it old West Craven stuff - looks familiar.

quote]

No Stu it's fresh from the testers in Preston.
When it's inflated it makes really nice sweeping curves. It leaks a bit at pres but should last the day.

[The race controller]

We are going down for 14:00 today to see if the car marks the floor and hopfully we will get some date with the manager of the building so hopefully we will know soon!:thumbsup:

Here's where we went. Entrance on Hunt Lane. A new school has been built on the site. I think the car park is all that area to the right of the entrance road. Fire doors to the new place open up onto the running track.
Link: <http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=oldham&ie=UTF8&ll=53.544464,-2.151518&spn=0.003385,0.009613&t=h&z=17>Here's

[DaveG28]

I'll deffo come along for this, and happy to pay up front (for 1 round at least!) if it helps planning etc!

[Stu]

It leaks a bit at pres but should last the day.

:woot: - like a dodgy prostrate.

[DaveG28]

It has been booked! IT is the big place in the pictures and there is loads of grip. We had worn minispikes on and it was cool. The first meeting is on the 2nd november and doors open at 10 and racing should start at 11 ish. There is a couple of rules though! You can only drink water in the main hall. NO playing in the sand pit and Do not brake anything. It been over 15 years since we had an indoor venue and this is 1 of the best I have ever seen. Much like Worksop but grippier and brand new. More info to follow.

Ooh, are Lipo's ok?

[woOdy]

Ooh, are Lipo's ok?

run anything you want!

[The race controller]

run anything you want!

As long as it's Electric !!!!!

[matdodd]

Ill be there Woody:)

[The race controller]

run anything you want!
http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/images/Race%20Place2.jpg

[P_B]

Looks good and in my neck of the woods too, will be there for sure! Let me know in advance of any extra help you need.

[Jamie B4]

Doesn't clash with anything so can you book me in for 2WD please, Stu. Be there for 10 and looking forward to it

[Colinevan]

Deffo count me in for this as well.

After a break in racing i so need to catchup lol.

Col.

Good thing is that its so close to me as well. :thumbsup:

I know its early days yet, but has there been any thoughts on midweek racing at night... i can remember the days of chapners hall in rochdale on a tues which then moved to whitworth civic hall, along with fitton hill indoor racing (oldham)on a fri night which was surprisingly busy.

[Jez]

I'll be there stu as promised,and i will bring shop as arranged.Anything else let me know do you want any small jumps making like we talked about let me know,looking forward to it ta Jez.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[The race controller]

I think we have found a venue for racing inside over the Winter. Great location, near the motoway and a big track size.

And here is the booking in form:-
http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/images/Indoor%20Series%20Booking%20In%20Form.pdf

[Garry Driffill]

This looks awsome, Think im going to book in. Dad what you recon?

[woOdy]

This looks awsome, Think im going to book in. Dad what you recon?


Please do mate. It going to be fantastic and there are going to be some great prizes too!:thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

come on guys you know you want to, lets make this the place to be,its got all the makings of a fantastic metting.

[Garry Driffill]

I dont have access to a Cheque Book WoOdy im afraid. Can we send you Postal Orders at all? or Pre-Book and pay on the day?

[woOdy]

I dont have access to a Cheque Book WoOdy im afraid. Can we send you Postal Orders at all? or Pre-Book and pay on the day?

Its ok mate, you can pay on the day.

[Garry Driffill]

Count me and my dad in then! :D

[bigred5765]

well done garry and dad, lol its gona be ace,

[rcracer]

well done garry and dad, lol its gona be ace,

:thumbsup: