Track design thoughts...

[cunawarit]

We've posted a couple of tracks in another thread and I thought it might be good to create a thread about tracks so that everyone has a chance to give some input...

To recap, a couple of tracks have been suggested for the next couple of meets:

For the 17th:

http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62031&d=1389445947

For the 24th:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Fleetwood_zps4568a098.jpg

Anyway, this is more light hearted. I came up with these two (had a spare hour...) based on real tracks:

Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Barcelona-Catalunya-Blank_zpsd6b79ccf.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Barcelona-Catalunya-Circuit_zps15b738ec.jpg

Road America:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/RoadAmerica-Blank_zps7f914ee2.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/RoadAmerica-Circuit_zps3fc68fc8.jpg

I am not suggesting we do these tracks, I'm simply trying to spark some discussion :)

[reg]

Tbh they all look good,
Best thing is to try them and see what happens,the one with the straight up the middle usually leads to a few more mishaps with batting cars landing on it as a car hot foots it up it,but it is a nice one to race on though

[Chris56]

These look ace mate - problem with recreating F1 circuits is that they often have empty spaces, but these fill the floor quite well. Could you also do Interlagos?

[cunawarit]

I could do :)

It is all about finding the ones that could fit in the rectangular space easily and using a lil creativity to fill out the space well... I could have done Indianapolis, that was the easy route ;)

[Chris56]

Maybe also look at Moto GP tracks as many of these have a rectangular footprint and have a good tight in-field:

Estoril
Sachsenring
Mugello
Valencia

[cunawarit]

Interlagos...

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Interlagos-Blank_zpsbc4d6431.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Interlagos-Circuit_zps16afeb8f.jpg

Might be a lil dangerous at Subida Los Boxes as touring cars leave the track at 50 MPH and go into someone's face ;) Maybe a couple of obstacles to create a chicane before it.

PS: Estoril is probably perfect!

[cunawarit]

Estoril:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Estoril-Blank_zpsc0363286.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Estoril-Circuit_zpsd9e3328f.jpg

[Chris56]

Now Estoril looks cool!

[cunawarit]

I suspect these would be a pain to put together though :) But it would be cool to have at least one track based on a real life circuit :D

........ If only Martin could build a 1/10 scale version of the Laguna Seca corkscrew. Here's my Mini going down it ;)

http://www.kimini.com/Diaries/2006Nov-March07/laguna%20seca%20corkscrew.JPG

[Dave Dodd]

These are awesome.

That mini looks cool. Yh the corkscrew would be brilliant.

[siddus74]

That's my Porsche behind it :thumbdown:

Scott.

[leedolby77]

And my F1 is in front……….:thumbsup::p

[cunawarit]

LOL! great imagination guys :)

So any chance we could try one of these? I quite like the look of Road America track.

[msmith105e]

Corkscrew you say.......... hmmmmm :thumbsup:

[Dave Dodd]

Sticked this, so post all track plan ideas in here for discussion and possible future use. Cheers

[cunawarit]

OK, we have discussed replicating 1:1 race tracks. But how about replicating world class RC tracks?

I give you Oulu 2013 EFRA European Championships, the real track:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/1-12-efra-euros-2013-qualifying-day_zpsa155683f.jpg

As recreated in VRC:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/VRCOuluEFRAECTrack_zpsa88b1752.jpg

As recreated by me, and mirrored for safety:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/Oulu_zps83f49702.jpg

A couple of videos of the real track:

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n-EN0RIP0Ag

[Chris56]

Looks like it will fil the hall nicely.

I say "if it looks good, run it!"

[leedolby77]

I like the look of that!, the buggies might find it a bit tight but everything else should be fine. :thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

I like the look of that!, the buggies might find it a bit tight but everything else should be fine. :thumbsup:

Well, they should drive something a little more precision and finesse ;)

Anyway, let's try it then. :D

[Robbiejuk]

Gui will be pumping in some practice laps on vrc now. :thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

HAHA! I would, but I haven't got that track and I am too broke to spend the money on stuff like that right now :)

If only we could recreate VRC Carpet 2 or Rhein-Main :)

[reg]

Really enjoyed the track tonight :thumbsup:
Loved the relaxed racing in clubman also,something went wrong with the car in every round and the final but it was so much fun running LEE's creation,
Hard work to hang with the F1's BT a good challange,roll on next week :)

[cunawarit]

I thought the track was ace too! Really fun, loved the tight bits. And something went wrong with my car in every race too!

In the first race I killed a silvercan (confirming my hatred of sealed can motors without an internal fan).

Then on the second race I lost a wheel (stupid Mardave diff design!).

Then on races 3 and 4 I ran out of batteries (Bloody NiMHs!).

Next week will run lipos... Car should be lighter and quicker.

[siddus74]

Good laugh as always, may run the 6 wheeler next week as the f104 is heading for the bin .... Oh and the TB04 may make an appearance to battle with Charlie as my Herbie just didn't have it in her tonight :-(

Just want to say that Martins TA looked well sorted tonight ... Cheater :p

Scott

[cunawarit]

I love your car set up approach Scott :) If it works GREAT! If it doesn't, bin it! ;)

[siddus74]

It's got way to much adjustment for me and I get understand it all ... Tamiya cars normally just work :confused:

[leedolby77]

It's got way to much adjustment for me and I get understand it all ... Tamiya cars normally just work :confused:

Ooo, do you want to sell it??

[cunawarit]

You haven't had a TL-01 :-) versatile, you can make just about anything out of it. But assembled as per manual... it really is a good for nothing POS.

[Chris56]

Last nights track was ace, nice design Gui:thumbsup:

So what will it be this friday?

[msmith105e]

I really enjoyed last nights track well done gui ;-) the only ammendment that could possibility be made would be to the triangle infront of the rostrum to remove the 90 degree marker that claimed quite a few victims last night. I think the track for next week is going to be put to a public vote :-)

[The Doctor]

What sort of amendment were you thinking of Martin? Looking where you're going, for instance? :p

[reg]

Really liked the track,although iv never been a fan of the straight up the middle,to many cars going in different directions in close quarter(Q the Pun from Paul!) but the 20 year old F103 survived my best efforts to destroy it due to its lack of anything resembling a setup,or even the right bits to put a setup on it,
Looking forward to getting it sorted,

[msmith105e]

What sort of amendment were you thinking of Martin? Looking where you're going, for instance? :p

I think my glasses have stopped working paul :thumbsup:

[The Doctor]

the 20 year old F103 survived my best efforts to destroy it due to its lack of anything resembling a setup,or even the right bits to put a setup on it,
Looking forward to getting it sorted,

Must admit to getting the F1 itch again now there are a few more appearing. Can't decide whether to stick to off-road or to switch to the F1 for a while... :confused:

[msmith105e]

sorry for the poor quality..

[cunawarit]

6 looks good, and 8 with no long straights looks kinda different. :)

[Dave Dodd]

Look good Martin, thoughts on which to use for this friday?

get your votes in

[cunawarit]

I vote for 8, no long straights :)

PS: Thanks on the compliments for the track :D I enjoyed it too, shame that my car didn't ;)

[msmith105e]

i like number 8 too, maybee gui could set it out on the graph paper like last weeks???, makes it easier to set up then my microsoft paint monstrosities :blush:

[cunawarit]

No worries, I'll draw the winner on graph paper :)

[siddus74]

Looks like PAC man ...:lol:

Scott

[Chris56]

3 or 8 for me

[cunawarit]

Looks like PAC man ...:lol:

That gives me an idea!!! ;)

[msmith105e]

Would anyone ealse like to put a vote in for this fridays track ?

[cunawarit]

If they don't we can just go with 8 as it seems to have interested most ppl :D Unless someone wholeheartedly objects. Whatever we choose let's try to get it built as per design...

[Chris56]

Id like to race on all of them, but 8 is the one id like to race on most

[Dave Dodd]

Yh what is the idea of Pac man ?

[msmith105e]

If they don't we can just go with 8 as it seems to have interested most ppl :D Unless someone wholeheartedly objects. Whatever we choose let's try to get it built as per design...
Lets try to get it built ontime you mean lol

[Dave Dodd]

Okay number 8 it is, like Gui said it seeme more popular. Will need to have the loop further away from race control to miss the corners (cable is long enough) :)

[Dave Dodd]

Lets try to get it built ontime you mean lol

Yeah that too :thumbsup::lol:

[cunawarit]

Here it is:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/MartinSmithSpecial_zps5264c7c8.jpg

[Chris56]

I think Martin should race his M03 on this track

[msmith105e]

Im very tempted to run my m03 with anglia body.... I may have to use my 8.5 turn though..... what do you think guys :D

Nice name gui :thumbsup:

[Chris56]

I'll be running F103, but with a twist

[leedolby77]

I'll be running F103, but with a twist

Do you mean that it will actually finish a race?:p

[Chris56]

Can't guarantee that, but at least it wont get wedged under the markers!

Plus it will look good too

[msmith105e]

Im senseing some form of gt bodyshell....

[The Doctor]

I'll be running F103, but with a twist

It's called "chassis tweak" in technical terms.

[Dave Dodd]

F1 with a ministox bumper

[Chris56]

Martin is closest - it is a GT shell, came pre-painted and was only £16 delivered

Paul - i did make a chassis tweak - I used what was left of the Lotus front wing to make some front body mounts.

I am yet to mount the shell as I need some longer body posts to arrive.

[Chris56]

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/DSC05144_zps38342693.jpg
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/DSC05146_zpsc716afae.jpg
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/DSC05145_zps3c51cb8d.jpg

[David Smeaton]

I really like track number 3; nice long track.

[Dave Dodd]

Love the gt40 shell... Sweet :D

[siddus74]

Looks ace :lol:

F1 for me this week .. May put the Superstox around as well :D

Scott

[cunawarit]

Chris that's an awesome shell. I mean REALLY awesome shell!!!

Looking forward to it gents :) Stock buggy, may give the Mardave a run too, did a couple of thongs to it... That's to say a whole load of lead on it Traxxas style.

As for the name, thanks Martin :D I have others lined up for the next few tracks. lol

[Dave Dodd]

No.3 could be "equallacteral chainsaw"

[Chris56]

Cheers for the comments. Here is the ebay link, quite a bargain:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BS10F03B-1-10-RC-Nitro-On-Road-Touring-Car-Body-Cover-Shell-Ford-Blue-210mm-/331052077079?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item4d143dd017#ht_2445wt_904

Pre painted and arrived next day. It also comes in red and fits F103 nicely.

My only complaint is the cut lines down the side are too high and i therefore had to cut the wheel arches deeper and the front bumper higher, hence why it looks very low and leen!

[The Doctor]

Let's see what it looks like after 3 rounds and a final... I remember those Lotus wings...

[Chris56]

Should be ok - I used the Lotus nose cone and a non-brittle strip of plastic bolted to it in order to make the t-piece, which I have mounted the body posts onto. Feels quite strong and the body posts have plenty of flex in them.

[leedolby77]

I am sure with your engineering excellence it will all be just fine.....:lol:

Have you made sure the wheels are fixed on well?....:p

[Dave Dodd]

Okay so which circuit for Friday? A Gui design I think.
Would like one with a normal straight this week, plz

[cunawarit]

Road America has been chosen by quite an overwhelming vote already...

[Chris56]

Definitely need my 12t motor and foams for that track, oh yeh!

Just a thought: we have several designs now, all of which we should run at some point.

How about we alternate between tight and open tracks each week?

Last week was v tight and technical with no long straights, this week we do Road America which should be excellent for speed, next week one of the tighter tracks (#3?), week after Interlagos/Barcelona/Estoril?

[leedolby77]

Road America has been chosen by quite an overwhelming vote already...

Out of interest, how does one vote for a circuit layout?

[Chris56]

pm Gui/Martin, or simply leave a post here

[Dave Dodd]

Road America will be this week's track plan. :thumbsup:

[David Smeaton]

Nice track, lots of laps...............

[cunawarit]

I'm quite keen to try Oulu Mirror, if it was good enough for the EFRA European Championships it should be good enough for us on a Friday night :)

[siddus74]

Have fun tonight lads ...

Gits :cry:

Scott.

[cunawarit]

We will try ;)

[The Doctor]

Just thought I'd log on to have a moan about the track on Fri. I couldn't drive it so clearly it was rubbish.

Thanks.

[Dave Dodd]

Clearly, too many straights with corners at each end. :lol:

Martin and myself have chosen a track (one of Martin's) for this Friday as it needs to be easily adjusted for Saturday. :)

[msmith105e]

Just thought I'd log on to have a moan about the track on Fri. I couldn't drive it so clearly it was rubbish.

Thanks.

:thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

It was really quite awful and it didn't flow at all... I am clearly a masochist who enjoys designing undrivable tracks.