Vintage

[xfactor]

Hi all,

After seeing Chrissy C couger 2 restore it brought back some fond memories as i raced these back in the day. I had the Team and Works versions. So after searching I finally found one. Well it was in a state of well lets say well ragged dont think it was a racer who had it.

So i have totally stripped it and working from ground up. The chassis and a few bits have been sent to HYDRO-MAN RichyUK on here for him to work his MAGIC on the chassis.


Thanks..........Mark.

[xfactor]

Ok,

I will be doing a rebuild thread on my Couger 2. I will be posting pics of the build starting with the gearbox, diff layshaft etc..

After finding some brand new Couger 2 instructions and original sticker sheet both in packet I have started the restore of the Couger 2.

Pics later.

[Moozo]

The more build threads the better i say, each person has different styles/ways of doing builds will be interesting reading for us all.....;)

Do it Fresh Prince....:p:p:p


Mick

[xfactor]

HAHAHAHAHAH nice will do Mick i will keep it Fresh :D if it lets me upload.

[xfactor]

Ok then, the pics it would allow me to upload shows the diff stripped cleaned parts renewed where required. Layshaft stripped and cleaned. All parts ready for gear box. Side plates are with HYDRO-MAN RichyUK along with chassis. When i get back i will post pics of these parts.

If you click all photos you can zoomie zoom zoom in :D

[xfactor]

Ok, so a little update on the Couger 2 rebuild/restore. While im waiting for the chassis and side plates to be finished, I thought I would start cleaning up the old plastics and fit new where needed and also what I could fined.

So the front hubs have been stripped cleaned and have ceramic bearings fitted. The front end also has a new front bulkhead, new hinge pins complete, new front hinge pin holder,new front carbon fibre shock tower and new purple nuts.The front wishbones are mint so was really lucky as the rest of the Couger 2 was well used so I think these must have been replaced at some point.

The rear also has new rear hubs, new rear carbon fibre shock tower,new rear hinge pins and new nuts. Again the rear wishbones are mint and like the front must have been changed as both do not represent the condition of the couger 2.

Next on the list of cleaning is the ballraced steering posts and parts and the steering mechanism.

So here are a few pics so far and as soon as the chassis and side plates come I will go back to building and completing the gearbox.

Dont tell the Mrs ive stole the pastry brush :D

[Chrissy C]

Mark,

Please remove this thread and pictures at once - your pictures are far better than mine :D

Looking good so far mate. Rich is a top guy and will sort the chassis out nicely, what design have you gone for?

Any before shots of the car?

Bets,
Chris

[xfactor]

Hi Chris,

HAHAHAHAHAHAH I will remove. Ive gone for black and candy purple carbon on chassis, candy purple side plates for gearbox and black and candy purple on diff/belt adjusters and layshaft bearing holders.

Got a penguin-rc body shell ( steve_haskins) on here and must say for the price the quality is fantastic. You get body,nose,wing and side parts for the wing.

Chassis and parts are at Hydro-mans as we speak so cant wait for results.

The only thing I didnt do was take before shots but ive asked Richyuk to take pictures of the chassis before and after to give you idea of the condition.

[xfactor]

So on with the clean, the ballraced steering has been stripped clean and ready for chassis. All bearings through out the couger 2 have been cleaned and oil has been placed inside. The shocks have been stripped, lard has been removed and fresh oil installed.I have been able to get new pro shock bodies for the rear (dark green) but havent been able to get new bodies for the front, these do have slight marks on the top. So if anyone has a set for the front new or mint please pm.

[DerbyDan]

I'm enjoying this re-build :) You are a man after my own heart... very neat & meticulous!

Good to see that you are using the alloy shock seal housings - these transform what are quite average shocks into much better ones ;-)

Also I need to find some new old-style black ball cups for my C2 Works - as mine has the incorrect grey 'ballgrippers'

[xfactor]

Thanks Dan, more pics coming :D

[xfactor]

I have just had to put these on. These are brand new front Aerodisc wheels in packet. I also found a set of 2 row stud (green) 2.2 tyres brand new in packet for the wheels.

I would like to thank my fellow oople brother Carlton (MOOZO) for helping me out with the front wheels.

I also have brand new rears coming soon as well :D

[Moozo]

No worries mate

Hope you didn't find them tyres on ebay and pay that price!!!!!!

C.

[xfactor]

:blush::blush:

7 pound posted.

[Moozo]

tut tut tut......

[xfactor]

Hi all,

Just a update on a few new bits posted through my door :D

I now have a complete new set of aerodisc wheels, brand new body,wing,nose and wing tips. New 2 row stud in green for front and new spikes in red for rear although I have new full spike,mini spike and mini pin so havent made a choice yet.

Also managed to get a set of new white rear springs to match new grey spring fronts, and I have managed to get a new transmission case for the gear box.

I would like to thank Northy for the rear wheels and transmission case.
I would like to thank steve_haskins for the shell and including the nose just like the original top stuff mate.

The chassis and bits should be ready soon so the real build will start then :D

[NeilRalph77]

Was that pretty much the accepted setup then white rear, grey front?

[xfactor]

I used to run back in the day, Rear white and yellow front in wet. Rear yellow and blue front dry. On grass that is, with either TR32 HARD on rear wet and the 2.2 two row stud on front studs wider apart. Dry Green mini spike rear and the standard two row stud studs closer together. Some good results with that. Others may use greys up front.

[xfactor]

Ok, I am still waiting on chassis and bits, but its not gonna be long :D So I thought I would start the paint.

Now thinking of a scheme was a little tricky as I didnt want a modern paint scheme. So I went for what I used to have back in the day. Inspired by the Works paint scheme of when that was first shown.

Ive been spraying bodies since 1990 so have some knowledge :D. I have started with the wing. I was lucky to get brand new in packet original decals and instructions and when it came to it thought should I use them. Oh well I did and placed them where I had them back in the day. I will fit wing tips once wing and tips have hardened.

Colours used are Pearl Purple, White, Black and Fluorescent Orange. Hope you LIKE........

So here is the start of the paint the wing and body to follow.

Click once on pics to enlarge Click again to zoom in :D

[Moozo]

Me like, gonna look good with the chassis and other bits done:D:D

[xfactor]

Ok,

Just had the news back. The chassis and plates are finished, so shouldnt be to long before the build cant start.

When they arrive I will put pics up of the chassis, plates and other bits.:thumbsup:

[BORMAC]

Very keen to see the results of the anodising.
The Cougar2 is still my all time favourite 2WD.

[xfactor]

Ok, the day ive been waiting for. The chassis,plates and bits have been posted through my door by the best post-woman ever :D.

After careful opening at looking at the parts all I can say is AWESOME !!!!!! RichyUK has made a fantastic job of the parts.The only thing that I wished ive had done is take before pics, but will do on my next rebuild ;)

I will be posting pics shortly after I have stopped looking at them.:thumbsup:

[RichyUK]

Lucky I took some before ;)

[Chrissy C]

Come on Mark, chop chop lol!

[DerbyDan]

Now thinking of a scheme was a little tricky as I didnt want a modern paint scheme. So I went for what I used to have back in the day. Inspired by the Works paint scheme of when that was first shown.

Ooooh - can't wait to see the finished result!!:thumbsup:

Was this the car that inspired the paint job on your original Cougar2?

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumacher/Schumacher_CougarSV/previouscars/image/Cougar2Works_028.jpg

[xfactor]

Yes Dannyboy, thats the cougar matey. Think it was in either Radio Race Car, Model Cars or RCcars.

[xfactor]

Hi all, been trying to upload pics all day, it wont allow me to upload again for some reason. Will try tomorrow.

[Moozo]

Your just a tease:p:p:p

[xfactor]

hahahahahahahahahaha im not :mad: whats the reason it wont allow me to upload................:mad:

[Moozo]

files too big, doing from your phone. crop the picture mate.

[xfactor]

My brother Carlton, your rite, just having dinner will do in about 1hr :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[xfactor]

Hi all,

So finally the pics, thanks to my brother Carlton for sorting.:thumbsup: Its hard to get the true colour with the pics but hope you like them I sure do...:D

Click on pics to enlarge.........

I will post pics of the gearbox build next.....

[xfactor]

The gearbox went together really well. Once it was together I wasnt happy with the belt tension as it was a little tight in standard setting as per instructions. So went one click looser and this felt good. I fitted a new spur, new thrust race to the slipper with TI balls, new transmission case, new complete screws throughout and of course a purple nut to finish. :D

Again click on pics to enlarge......:D

[xfactor]

Tomorrow I will be starting the chassis build. I will start bolting on the front and rear ends. I will post again pics of the progress...........:thumbsup:

[MHeadling]

Good work , looks great :thumbsup:

[BORMAC]

S W E E E E E T !!!!!
That carbon effect on the chassis looks amazing!
So this would be the 'TEAM' version will colours and effects to suit your own unique taste.
I've got a whole lot of Topcats, Cougars and Cougar2 cars and I find the gearbox very efficient out on the track.

I continue to watch your build with abated breath.

[xfactor]

Thank you Mark and BORMAC. Yes this is the Cougar 2 Team, Although one alloy roller is broken and waiting for some to turn up, new plastic will be fitted then switched over. But back in the day some of the schumacher team drivers would remove the rollers anyway and fit the plastic as after a few runs the bearings would seize up. But they do look good. So on with the BUILD !!!!!! :D

[Moozo]

Do you have the part for the driveshaft mate?

C.

[geeforce59]

Ooooh - can't wait to see the finished result!!:thumbsup:

Was this the car that inspired the paint job on your original Cougar2?

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumacher/Schumacher_CougarSV/previouscars/image/Cougar2Works_028.jpg

Thanks guys for posting my car as your inspiration.
By the way i still got this beauty on my shelf back home:)

[xfactor]

If you want to sell it pm ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

[geeforce59]

Im not pretty sure if my wife will let it go:cry:

Was that a CF chassis you got there for the Cougar?

[xfactor]

So the rebuild of the Cougar 2 Team is started. I am following the instructions and first up the rear end.

Showing new rear bulkhead, new carbon fibre shock mount, new hinge pins,new hinge pin holders, new screws Oh and new purple nuts........:D

Click on pics to enlarge........

[geeforce59]

So the rebuild of the Cougar 2 Team is started. I am following the instructions and first up the rear end.

Showing new rear bulkhead, new carbon fibre shock mount, new hinge pins,new hinge pin holders, new screws Oh and new purple nuts........:D

Click on pics to enlarge........

Dang! that's sure looking hot chassis you got there:thumbsup:
Fiberlyte???

[xfactor]

No my friend its hydro-dipped. RichyUk on here did it, he also did the plastic bearing holders and the belt adjusters on the gearbox plates on page 2.

[xfactor]

A little more work done to the Cougar, starting with the build of the ball raced steering then on to the front end.

New fitted is front bulkhead, hinge pins, hinge pin brace, front shock tower new screws and of course new purple nuts....:D

Back end shows gearbox fitted and all new screws fitted to underside, its also starting to look like a Cougar 2 :D

Click pics to enlarge....:D

[CAT3K]

That's looking pretty cool with the carbon effect hydro dip :thumbsup:

I'm swayed on whether to get this done on one of my Cougars, but one day I'll hopefully find a real CF one. One day..

[xfactor]

Go for it CAT3K, RichyUK is the man. The chassis was really scratched with deep grooves also. I did not think the chassis would look as good as it does. My pics do not really do it justice as the purple is not really showing in the pics I have taken. The CHASSIS looks brand new DO IT DO IT DO IT :D

[Moozo]

[/QUOTE]but one day I'll hopefully find a real CF one. One day..[/QUOTE]

And hopefully i'm going to win the lotto one day Paul :p

Mark how good will it look with the alloy rollers on it:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Looking really good mate:thumbsup:

[xfactor]

Cheers Mick, yes think the rollers will finish it off my brother.......:thumbsup: Im wondering on a carbon chassis would Fybre Lyte be able to do one as they make the tub for the RC10 and thats much more of a tub ;)

[Chrissy C]

Looks brilliant Mark.

FL have been asked to do a tub before, Stephen said that many a people have come to him asking for it, but its a very complicated (a lot more lines as opposed to the RC-10 tub i believe) and expensive process...maybe one day!

Wanted to ask, how are you going to do your electric install? Saddles, shorty / full fat lipo down the middle? The lipos are just a bit to tall to go under the platic retainer bit on the bulkhead, and i think side by side saddles run over the annoying 'bumps' on the chassis (why are they even there lol?) I'm just not sure what to do right now...

[xfactor]

Im not sure if I will run it as yet may just leave it on the shelf but temptation may get the better of me.

All those holes are to allow you to place batteries across the chassis with a extra battery holder so you had choice for battery down middle or across chassis...... You will notice as well you can fit batteries across the chassis in 2 stages back and forward.

I used to run speedo on left of car if sat in it, then wires straight through on to motor. Receiver on right if sat in it with wire from speedo straight across under battery with electrical tape over wire for protection.

I used to fit speedo and receiver nearer front so in normal condition run battery down center (dry) then wet fit battery across as close to the back as poss.

Hope that helps.:thumbsup:

[CAT3K]

but one day I'll hopefully find a real CF one. One day..
And hopefully i'm going to win the lotto one day Paul :p

Mark how good will it look with the alloy rollers on it:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Looking really good mate:thumbsup:Yeah Mick.. one day :p

I think Fibrelyte were willing to make the tubs, at one point, quite a few people have asked and even provided alu chassis for them to make the mould. But if I remember correctly, the cost was huge :(

Paul.

[xfactor]

:( mmmm I think the associated was around 160-165 ish from memory.

[xfactor]

Just had a thought, maybe if we got a number of us they would get the price down. Bet Mick would have half dozen.....:woot:

[CAT3K]

The tubs from BITD were marketed by Eurocomposite (I don't know if they actually made them themselves) You don't tend to see them in the UK, but if you're willing to search European ebays, they do come up for sale very occasionally.

Paul.

[DerbyDan]

Im not pretty sure if my wife will let it go:cry:

Was that a CF chassis you got there for the Cougar?

Super cool that you still have this car!!:thumbsup:

Xfactor - your car is looking amazing!!!:wub

[xfactor]

Thanks Dan, really happy with it so far. Will be fitting shocks, battery holder, wheels tyres and wing tomorrow so almost complete.

Oh and then the body to paint and sticker up.........:D

[jeroen206]

The tubs from BITD were marketed by Eurocomposite (I don't know if they actually made them themselves) You don't tend to see them in the UK, but if you're willing to search European ebays, they do come up for sale very occasionally.

Paul.


Yes , you have to watch at E-bay france , i have bought 2 chassis in the past.

[xfactor]

So a little more work completed. Shocks,rear bumper and battery holder fitted. New springs, new rear bodies and new oils fitted.

Now at the start of the build I did have a little help and this person has been bugging me from start, he wanted to be in the pics. So here he is his name is TANGOMACHER I made him wear his HIGH VIZ for safety reasons:D. First pic shows him with his allen keys skills and second pic shows him showing his beautiful eyes. It went well that pic as I didnt want to give him red eye.

Everyone say hello to TANGOMACHER !!!!!!!!

Anyway back to build, I will be fitting up wing ends and putting wing on and then wheels later, so will get pics up then.

[DerbyDan]

Noice!:cool:

Are all the plastic parts new? They look so black & shiney!:)

[xfactor]

Hi Dan,

No some of the plastics are new.

New fitted are,

Front bulk head.
Rear bulk head.
Driveshafts.
Transmission case.
Hinge pin blocks.
Shock towers front/rear carbon.
Hinge pins
Rear shock bodies.
Front hinge pin brace.

Think thats it Dan. I clean all my plastics with Pledge, pre-wash with washing up liquid warm not hot then pledge them. :D

[xfactor]

Ok then,

Chassis is complete now. Ive just fitted brand new front and rear wheels, front and rear tyres and the wing.

I will be starting body next so over the next few days I will hopefully get this complete and stickered up.

So heres the chassis hope you like.

Oh forgot nearly complete got the alloy rollers to do. Then its complete.......

[xfactor]

Hi all,

Just had to put this up. My race buggy is a Tamiya 201 Vega Gen3 I have just put the Cougar 2 Team against the Gen3 and its nearly as long. If I was to put Cougar front wishbones on I think it would be longer.:woot:

I find this very interesting as the Cougar is 1991 where as the Gen3 is 2013 I just would not of thought that the Cougar 2 was so long. This said the original Cougar would be longer :woot:

[xfactor]

Been masking most of last night. Been painting all day. So tonight I will be putting stickers on body shell. If I finish I will put the body on tonight.:D

[xfactor]

Ok then all, body finished stickered up and fitted. Its how I ran it back in the day. Well pleased with outcome just got to sort the alloy rollers when fitted I will put pics up.:thumbsup:

Click to enlarge pictures.....

[Moozo]

Mmmmm me like, great job mate:thumbsup:

Mick

[xfactor]

Cheers Mick.....:thumbsup:

[steve_haskins]

Great job buddy, it looks cool, now it's time to get it muddy😜

[xfactor]

:woot: MUDDY !!!!!!!!!!!!! NO NO NO NO Dusty on the shelf yes MUDDY NO !!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[RichyUK]

Looks fantastic mate, well done!

[xfactor]

Thanks Richy,

Glad its matched your work and effort. The chassis looks fantastic matey.:thumbsup:

[xfactor]

Ok then guys,

The Cougar 2 TEAM is almost complete bar the alloy rollers. I have had fond memories with the rebuild of the cougar and Chrissy C its your fault....:D

I would like to thank everyone who has helped me bring this little cougar TEAM back to mint condition.

RichyUK for chassis works.
Steve_Haskins for body shell and wing.
Northy for the wheels and new parts.
Chrissy C for parts.


And I think thats it................:woot: hold on a min.

A BIG THANK YOU to my brother Carlton ( MOOZO) For his help with all my bits

So thanks guys for all your help with this little rebuild.

Just waiting on the other little Cougar to turn up this week before I do it all again.:thumbsup:

Carlton, Carlton , Carlton are you there I need :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Thanks Guys.

[MHeadling]

Great job Xfactor, best Cougar build I'v seen :)

The paint job looks superb, good skills.

[Northy]

Looks awesome

[xfactor]

Wow, thanks Mark and Northy..........

[lcpvcce]

Wow ........... another A1 rebuilt project ............ :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[jeroen206]

Fantastic looking Cougar 2
Looks much like mine

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n227/JEROEN206/COUGAR-CARBON.jpg

[xfactor]

Looking good jeroen. Just waitng on battery strap to be made in carbon. Very nice.What front is that also looks like a Works chassis ?

Thank you.

[jeroen206]

Looking good jeroen. Just waitng on battery strap to be made in carbon. Very nice.What front is that also looks like a Works chassis ?

Thank you.

It is carbon chassis with the holes drilled for the Works transmission.
Custom made frontshocktower (Fibrelyte got the files).

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/pictureframe.asp?t=n&id=img15092_11072006090816_9.jpg

[MOGGIE XL]

This Cougar looks great with the retro paint and carbon look chassis,what is hydro dipping and can it be done in chrome?

[xfactor]

Hi MOGGIE,

Thank you, for the Hydro-dipping you need to speak to RichyUK on here matey. He did all the Hydro-Dipping on the Cougar 2 alloy chassis and plastic parts. PM him he is a top bloke..........:thumbsup:

I am struggling to get true shade with pics, but its candy purple carbon.......

[Peakey]

That chassis looks brilliant hydro dipping is so simple yet so effective top job

[DerbyDan]

Xfactor.... what a result, excellent work! & that paint job really sets it off!!:thumbsup:

Whats been really enjoyable is the fast pace & almost real-time updates with this build thread...

[xfactor]

Thanks alot Dan for your feedback matey. Its the first rebuild ive done and have learnt little bits along away that i should have done and wished i had done.

But thats about to be put to rest as i start my second rebuild..........:D

The Cougar 2 TEAM still has final bits to finish. I will complete and put pics of the final finish when i have the bits.......:D

So on with the second rebuild....................:thumbsup:

[Don't tell the Mrs]

What bits do you need for the second re build?

[xfactor]

Fingers crossed final parts should be here tomorrow, so will be able to put up final pics of the cougar......:D

[xfactor]

Ok so final pictures will be going up later. Once the final pictures are up I will be selling this Cougar 2. If anyone is interested in it then please pm me with a decent offer including postage before Ebay......................:thumbsup:

[xfactor]

So here we have the final pics of the Cougar 2. Fitted are brand new Jcracing white dish wheels brand new mini spike front and brand new spike rear. Gear cover is now fitted. I am waiting on fybre lyte to finish the carbon battery strap, they said today it will be finished Friday/Monday.

SOLD !!!!!

[Peakey]

Why would it just not look as good next to the works on the shelf or is it just the thrill of the chase and build

[BORMAC]

@ PEAKEY, mate are you in Australia? That Procat in your avatar looks familiar.

[Peakey]

@ PEAKEY, mate are you in Australia? That Procat in your avatar looks familiar.

No I'm not and neither is that Procat it's on the way to the uk as we speek pal :thumbsup: can't wait

[xfactor]

Here you go matey, check out the chassis on the thread. Could be a great option for you.............;)