10electric, Cullingworth Endurance event booking in Friday 7th March 14

[Nori_10]

Please use this thread to book in for racing on Friday 7th.

Unfortunately we need to put a cap of 20 drivers
N.B.
Nori should be able to have the Endurance charts/list sorted and we will want to start racing at bang on 7. So track building is the priority.
See separate thread for Endurance Event Rules.

We need more volunteers to collectively help build / dismantle the track, this also applies at the end of the evening putting away the track. So please help, we get more racing in and get to go home at a reasonable time. Don't leave it to the same individuals to do the honours. Please refrain from practicing until the track has been built.

Also, don't forget to pay Nori
The deadline for booking in is 9pm Thursday evening, heat listings will be compiled after this time. If you say you are coming then change your mind for what ever reason, you must let me know as this affects everyone else & the heats will not be evenly balanced,
Doors normally at 6pm.

I'll be there for 6, so anyone wanting to help with the track can get there for then.

1/10th Buggies, indoors, carpet, slippy floor and jumps. Family friendly and good fun club level racing.

Address:
Cullingworth Village Hall
Station Road
Cullingworth
Bradford
BD13 5HN

Visit site for other details: CLICK HERE (http://www.10electric.co.uk/)

1 Neal Lewis 2wd Dipstick
2 Andy Pattison 2wd Stick
3 Craig Tillotson 2wd Wheel
4 Paul Farrand 4wd Stick cant make it
5 Danny Harrison ?wd Wheel
6 Karam 2wd Stick
7 Martin Taylor 2wd Wheel
8 Ian Bellwood 2wd Wheel
9 James Bellwood 2wd wheel
10 Jack Wilkinson 2wd Wheel
11 Jim Furniss 2wd Stick
12 Nick Baker 4wd Wheel
13 Jon Price 2wd Stick
14 John Price 2wd Stick
15 Daniel Lee 2wd wheel
16 Nori 2wd stick
17 Jordan Atha 2wd wheel
18 Paul Vernon 2wd stick
19 Carl Greenbank 2wd stick
20 Cameron Greenbank 2wd wheel

Full

Reserve list
In oder to keep the teams balanced we will need 5 new drivers

21 Mark Goulding 2wd stick


Team 1
Danny Harrison ?wd Wheel
Nick Baker 2wd Wheel
Martin Taylor 2wd wheel
Paul Vernon 4wd stick

Team 2
Karam 2wd Stick
Mark Goulding 2wd stick 1, 30 min slot / Tristan Chadderton 1, 30 min slot
Andy Pattison 2wd Stick
Nori 2wd stick 1, 30 min slot / Lewis Chadderton 1, 30 min slot

Team 3
Neal Lewis 2wd Stick
Jim Furniss 2wd Stick
Cameron Greenbank 2wd wheel
Carl Greenbank 2wd stick

Team 4
John Price 2wd Stick
Jon Price 2wd Stick
James Bellwood 2wd wheel
Ian Bellwood 2wd Wheel

Team 5
Jordan Atha 2wd wheel
Craig Tillotson 2wd Wheel
Daniel Lee 2wd wheel
Jack Wilkinson 2wd Wheel

Transponder Check
Danny Harrison 2723157
Nick Baker 5588658
James Bellwood 2616311
Ian Bellwood 5749969
Karam Jagdev 5164897
Neal Lewis 9919197
Andrew Pattison 7320156
Nori Jagdev 2288772
Mark Goulding 7263323
Jim Furniss 8584388
Cameron Greenbank 7625356
Martin Taylor 4575227
John Price 5667698
Jon price JR 7381429
Paul Vernon 7576718
Carl Greenbank 6506437
Jordan Atha 7926483
Craig Tillotson 9160683
Daniael Lee 6657438
Jack Wilkinson 5375231

[neallewis]

Neal - 2wd

[rave3d]

Andy patt 2wd

[Tilly]

Craig Tillotson 2wd

[PaulFarrand]

4wd please

[Danny Harrison]

Danny Harrison ?WD

As long as Nick Baker isn't on my team.

[k4r4m]

Karam Jagdev 2WD

/\__/\
(=^_^=)

[emtee]

Martin Taylor 2wd please..

[Bells]

Ian Bellwood 2wd
James Bellwood 2wd

[jameswilkinson7]

Jack Wilkinson 2WD

[Nori_10]

Stick's or Stear wheel

Can drivers please indicate if they are on stick or steer wheel.
I will try to eliminate a situation where there is only one person with
a stick or steer wheel on your team.
This will create a backup if anyone breaks their car they can at least continue with another team members car.

[Tilly]

i use wheel

[cobra_shadow]

Nick baker 4wd wheel

Danny can go do one :thumbsup:

[Danny Harrison]

http://childrensministryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Loser.jpgNick baker 4wd wheel

Danny can go do one :thumbsup:

[Crashbandit]

Daniel Lee 2wd wheel

[aeb4]

Jordan Atha - 2wd, wheel.

[tommygun]

Giving this one a miss. :thumbdown:

[tommygun]

http://childrensministryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Loser.jpg

Nick, you've been parred by Danny!

[Great_Thark]

PV 4WD Stick

[emtee]

Martin Taylor 2wd please..


Spekky wheel

[cobra_shadow]

Giving this one a miss. :thumbdown:

now now why not give it a go or you think its only for big boys ?

[Bells]

This is going to be awesome nori :thumbsup: can we have a pizza break ? Pls

[Tilly]

it should be an interesting nights racing. Just out of interest how will a 4200mAh 65-130C battery run for? Just want to know incase i need to practice my F1 style pit stops :)

[Nori_10]

This is going to be awesome nori :thumbsup: can we have a pizza break ? Pls

Hi Ian, a pizza break is possible we just need a volunteer to take the orders and ring it through. But we all need to remember that the endurance race clock will not stop. Each team must manage their own breaks.

[Nori_10]

it should be an interesting nights racing. Just out of interest how will a 4200mAh 65-130C battery run for? Just want to know incase i need to practice my F1 style pit stops :)

Hi Craig, prepare yourself for a battery change. You should have an idea how long your battery might last, there are several variables, motor, timing, speed control settings, 2wd / 4wd, driving style etc. 30 minutes will be a first for many of us. Nori

[Tilly]

I'll manage a time slot with just 1 battery change. I can't wait for Friday will be cool doin an endurance race

[emtee]

Hi Craig.. If it helps, I use somewhere between 650-900 Ma per heat with my driving miss daisy style... The variance depends on the track set up I have noticed... This is with my B4 2wd running a 13.5 BL motor at @8.75:1 ratio... My cells are 5000/30C... I'm thinking I should be good for 30 mins no worries, but I'll be sticking a lipo alarm on just to be on the safe side in case the speedo limit is not working right well...!

[Danny Harrison]

Hi Craig.. If it helps, I use somewhere between 650-900 Ma per heat with my driving miss daisy style... The variance depends on the track set up I have noticed... This is with my B4 2wd running a 13.5 BL motor at @8.75:1 ratio... My cells are 5000/30C... I'm thinking I should be good for 30 mins no worries, but I'll be sticking a lipo alarm on just to be on the safe side in case the speedo limit is not working right well...!
I'll be impressed if you get it :)

I find that on my 5600 cells there is only a usuable 4000 or so mah. I do 2100 in, in 5 min :(

[Tilly]

I normally do 2 5 min races then charge. I'll charge a pack n take it to the park if the weather improves n do a long run n see wot it takes out of the battery.

Fingers crossed for some sun

[tommygun]

now now why not give it a go or you think its only for big boys ?

My dad is whinging about wanting to race, but he does not want to do a endurance race at culli, plus I'm not that bothered. Think I'm off to the last round at Chadderton next Sunday.

[emtee]

I'll be impressed if you get it :)

I find that on my 5600 cells there is only a usuable 4000 or so mah. I do 2100 in, in 5 min :(

I was at batley today n it's a big area as we know.. In my 2wd B4 13.5 BL set up I measured a max mA input of 1015 to balance charge a demon products 5000/25C after a heat n a couple of practice laps before the heat... So be impressed Danny my son! Mind you I did a min mA input of 475 but I crashed out after 7 laps in that particular heat on a full balance charge on the same cell... My average lap time was around the 29s mark... I did a miserly 11 laps in 5m 28s but then again I ain't no b@lls out racer... I'm thinking my 5300 will suffice... :thumbsup:

[jameswilkinson7]

An endurance race is all about keeping the car on the track, getting the laps in... I suggest if you can a 17.5 / 13.5 and drive steady :) 30 mins should be easily achievable with modern batteries.

[jameswilkinson7]

Double post!

[jameswilkinson7]

I find that on my 5600 cells there is only a usuable 4000 or so mah. I do 2100 in, in 5 min :(

Yeah, thats a 4wd with a 5.5 motor, and a lunatic at the wheel! :p

[Oscar]

Yeah, thats a 4wd with a 5.5 motor, and a lunatic at the wheel! :p
He's no hope with all those battery changes....Especially when we superglue his battery thumb screws :p:D

[Nori_10]

Team listing now at the top of this thread.

I have also started a reserve list as New drivers are showing an interest.
But I need to keep the teams as evenly balanced as possible, so another 5 drivers could be included.

[NeilRalph77]

Team Bellwood Durango for the win:thumbsup: possibly aided by No maintenance Nick and 4wd indoors is cheating Danny:p

[Bells]

Team Bellwood Durango for the win:thumbsup: possibly aided by No maintenance Nick and 4wd indoors is cheating Danny:p

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[cobra_shadow]

Team Bellwood Durango for the win:thumbsup: possibly aided by No maintenance Nick and 4wd indoors is cheating Danny:p

Feel the love :wub

[cobra_shadow]

http://childrensministryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Loser.jpg

Im on your team d**k head

[Great_Thark]

meant to put 2wd and ill run that as it seems to be a 2wd night

Danny, I can bring the durango then it's an all 2wd night

[neallewis]

meant to put 2wd and ill run that as it seems to be a 2wd night

Danny, I can bring the durango then it's an all 2wd night

He'll have no chance running the 5.5 for 1/2 hour.

I've got nicks durango 210 in my office (because Danny didn't want to carry it home on the bus from batley). I think i'll leave it there friday. :p

[cobra_shadow]

He'll have no chance running the 5.5 for 1/2 hour.

I've got nicks durango 210 in my office (because Danny didn't want to carry it home on the bus from batley). I think i'll leave it there friday. :p

That's fine Neil I still have my x6

[Danny Harrison]

We've got this team ;) :woot::woot::thumbsup:

[neallewis]

We've got this team ;) :woot::woot::thumbsup:

No chance :p

[cobra_shadow]

No chance :p

We have the best team so why cant we win ?:confused:

[neallewis]

That's fine Neil I still have my x6

that won't last 1/2 hour, and neather will Danny's B44 with 5.5. just think of all the penalties and laps lost :-D

[NeilRalph77]

Yeh Danny's 5.5's sha**ed! even fully boosted my unboosted 6.5 was as quick in a straight line, no wonder it thermals all the time it can't be that far away from letting go altogether!

Think I'd have purchased a new motor instead of a new speedo Danny...

[Danny Harrison]

Yeh Danny's 5.5's sha**ed! even fully boosted my unboosted 6.5 was as quick in a straight line, no wonder it thermals all the time it can't be that far away from letting go altogether!

Think I'd have purchased a new motor instead of a new speedo Danny...
A final at Chadderton and b final at worksop with said sh@**ed motor

Running cool as a cucumber with the RSX. Had to go down to 75% current limit, gonna eat yours alive outside:p

[Oscar]

Maybe I should be the confidently quiet one? I think I have a good team on balance :thumbsup: Carl is no slouch, Jon is walking home if he doesn't concentrate and I WILL electrocute Paul EVERY time he crashes (Well you never did the same thing again after the cane at school did you? that's my theory anyhow ;) :p )

[Danny Harrison]

Maybe I should be the confidently quiet one? I think I have a good team on balance :thumbsup: Carl is no slouch, Jon is walking home if he doesn't concentrate and I WILL electrocute Paul EVERY time he crashes (Well you never did the same thing again after the cane at school did you? that's my theory anyhow ;) :p )
Neal 'hero' Lewis is providing me a 10.5 motor. You've all had it. Team belwood domination :thumbsup:

[Oscar]

10.5 Danny?? sheeeez you might as well get off the stage and pull it around on a string haha :P

[cobra_shadow]

I think Nori has done a good job with the teams we are going to have a good race with some interesting tactics :thumbsup:

[cobra_shadow]

10.5 Danny?? sheeeez you might as well get off the stage and pull it around on a string haha :P

Slow and steady wins the race :woot:

[Danny Harrison]

its all good. I have some really good silicone tyre additive for the teams to use, free of charge.

[Oscar]

Danny and his Teflon tyres :o

[cobra_shadow]

Danny and his Teflon tyres :o

Now Now John dont be like that you mite want them Teflon tyres when you see how quick he is :woot:

[Danny Harrison]

Now Now John dont be like that you mite want them Teflon tyres when you see how quick he is :woot:
Keeping my reserve of 22.5wt just for yours John ;)

[jameswilkinson7]

Team changes!!!!:rolleyes:

[Danny Harrison]

Team changes!!!!:rolleyes:
Gonna definitely need the 22.5wt 'tyre additive' for John(s) now :(

[jameswilkinson7]

Gonna definitely need the 22.5wt 'tyre additive' for John(s) now :(
Actually my money is on Neals team!:o

[Danny Harrison]

Actually my money is on Neals team!:o
ooo yea, 3 top Cully tier drivers right there. They may have been gifted it. Bttr leave the 2wd at home looking at the line ups.

[Bells]

Why team changes ?

[jameswilkinson7]

Why team changes ?

Paul Farrand cant make it and Mark Goulding is in now.

It was done to re balance the teams. Me and Nori worked it out on driver ability and trying to keep family members together.
To be honest its been a bit of a nightmare trying to keep it fair. With our ability points scoring system we gave each driver an ability score of 1 to 4, 1 being the best.

From memory Dannys team score was 11, Karams 11, Johns 11, Neals, 10 and Jordans 11.

[Bells]

Paul Farrand cant make it and Mark Goulding is in now.

It was done to re balance the teams. Me and Nori worked it out on driver ability and trying to keep family members together.
To be honest its been a bit of a nightmare trying to keep it fair. With our ability points scoring system we gave each driver an ability score of 1 to 4, 1 being the best.

From memory Dannys team score was 11, Karams 11, Johns 11, Neals, 10 and Jordans 11.

Ok James , thanks for explaining it :)

[jameswilkinson7]

Nori is on with a colour coded schedule chart now. It will be on at the start of the thread soon.:)

[cobra_shadow]

From memory Dannys team score was 11, Karams 11, Johns 11, Neals, 10 and Jordans 11.

I must have got away with it :thumbsup:

[tommygun]

Nothing wrong with a 10.5 Danny, That's whats in my 44. I run at 50 to 55% and it does it for me!!!:blush::blush::blush::blush:

[NeilRalph77]

So was that Danny 1
Nick 2
Ian 3
Baby Bell 4 ? = 10

Or

Danny 1
Ian 2
Baby Bell 3
Nick 5? = 11 :thumbsup:

[Tilly]

wot do the different colours on the chart represent?

[Oscar]

wot do the different colours on the chart represent?
It's based on which star sign you are, Nori is a big fan of Russel Grant ;)

[jameswilkinson7]

wot do the different colours on the chart represent?

Driver ability
White 1
Red 2
Orange 3
Yellow 4

Ralph, if you were racing we would have to break out the Pink!

Edit by JP: Green, ....Tortoises are green James!!!

[Tilly]

thought it would be, just wanted to check

[Bells]

It's all clear now and it seems well balanced out team wise , Jon and John use the same transmitters and use each other's cars as my self and James do , so we are covered for any breakdowns :thumbsup: plus because I drive quite slow I'm using a trailer with a 2nd battery in for mega run time :p

[Danny Harrison]

It's all clear now and it seems well balanced out team wise , Jon and John use the same transmitters and use each other's cars as my self and James do , so we are covered for any breakdowns :thumbsup: plus because I drive quite slow I'm using a trailer with a 2nd battery in for mega run time :p
pmsl, I'm going like a nutter till pack dies. Can change batts in mine in under 15 secs. Reckon I can afford to lose a lap every half hour :p

[Oscar]

Change batteries in under 15s? Wow you been practising F1 style? Doesent matter anyway, the new pack will be flat as team JP will have removed the fuses from everyone elses chargers (not that we are trying to be competetive or anything :p :p )

[Danny Harrison]

Change batteries in under 15s? Wow you been practising F1 style? Doesent matter anyway, the new pack will be flat as team JP will have removed the fuses from everyone elses chargers (not that we are trying to be competetive or anything :p :p )
haha ye, knew them quick release straps would come in handy sooner or later.:thumbsup:

[neallewis]

regarding the "marshall your own car rule", im not so sure this will be practical. i think it will lead to lots of people running about the track, getting in drivers way. i think a better approach may be to ensure each team always has a Marshall on the track, penalty if not, and you are to fairly marshall any car that is close to your point.

we also nead a clear path down the side of the track to allow people to go from stage area to kitchen freely, as not to obstruct the view. we don't want people walking randomly in the track, which again will block the drivers view of the track, or cause crashes.

[jameswilkinson7]

Neal.
I see where you are coming from with the marshalling, and you're right.:o But as you know getting people out to marshal on time is always tricky. Doing it this way the only people that are penalised for not marshalling is the team the marshal belongs to.
There could also be slow marshalling "tactics" employed if we were to marshal each others cars. I know this is unlikely, but I've seen plenty of people screaming at marshals for not moving fast enough in the past. Doing the marshal your own team rules this out.
Having 5 marshal points clearly marked for each team, and issuing penalties for an empty spot may be a solution. But what happens if the marshal is stood there fixing their own teams car and dosent marshal another as a result? Penalty point? How many? How long does the spot need to be empty before a point is given? A team can have more than one marshal on the track if they feel a driver is struggling. There are 4 in a team, 1 driving, 3 marshalling!

I'd like to keep it as simple and flowing as possible, watching for driver changeovers and swaps is going to be enough I think.

I think as long as the track is simple, wide, well taped down and easy to drive we should be able to cope.

A pathway at the side of the track is a great idea. That should defiantly happen.
Also an area for the cars to be pulled into for driver changes / battery changes should also be incorporated into the track. That way we ar'nt getting in the way of cars on the track. REMEMBER ONLY ONE CAR FROM EACH TEAM ON THE TRACK AT ANY ONE TIME!

[neallewis]

fair enough James.

[NeilRalph77]

Driver ability
White 1
Red 2
Orange 3
Yellow 4

Ralph, if you were racing we would have to break out the Pink!

Edit by JP: Green, ....Tortoises are green James!!!

Been a while since I've seen any pink, so thanks:thumbsup:

As apposed to cubed brown?:p

[Bells]

Look how many hits this post has had :o

[Tilly]

Have each teams pitting area been decided yet or will that be done tomorrow night?

[jameswilkinson7]

I'll be looking after jacks stuff from the kitchen area.

[cobra_shadow]

Look how many hits this post has had :o

People know a good thing when they see it :woot:

[Nori_10]

Drivers, the list of transponders at the beginning of this thread are the only ones that can be used for tomorows event. So if there are any changes let me know ASAP, if any other transponder not listed is used the system will note it as an unknown driver and this will cause confusion.

Make sure you are aware of the rules and remember one driver one car.

The computer will be set to read the race order every 15 minutes. This will be your half way indicator.

Try and arrive early so we can start promtly, I will have to do some initial checks.

Have Fun. Nori

[MarkGoulding]

Hi Everyone, Please can someone bring some Lexan scissors tonignt, need to trim a bit off the body as it keeps resetting the speed controller, did have a go last night with a blunt craft knife and almost took my finger off,

If I am running a little late please start without me, I will do my best to arrive before seven, but sometime the traffic can be a pain,:mad:

See you all tonight, thanks and good luck,

Mark

[jameswilkinson7]

If I am running a little late please start without me, I will do my best to arrive before seven, but sometime the traffic can be a pain,:mad:

See you all tonight, thanks and good luck,

Mark

Hi Mark, don't worry too much, your first race starts at 8.30 :thumbsup:

[cobra_shadow]

Tonight's track

[neallewis]

wow thats a quick lapper :-)
on way now.

[Tilly]

Cool, just about to load the car up, be there around 6

[Oscar]

Thanks to all involved for a great alternative nights racing.

Also a special thanks to all my WINNING team mates :thumbsup:

[Bells]

:thumbsup: slick battery changes and awesome driving , won the day :thumbsup:


Thanks nori and James :thumbsup:

[MarkGoulding]

Thanks Nori and James, Had a great night, think i am going to feel it in the morning,

Thanks Again

Mark

[cobra_shadow]

I would like to say well done to my fellow team mates who did an outstanding job tonight. We gave first place a good run.

Also thank you to Nori and Jim for a good night well done guys good night and very enjoyable.

[emtee]

:+1 for a top top night... A great experience for all I'm sure we can agree... Endurance..?? Pah!! Easy!

But seriously, first time I'd done an endurance event with a buggy and I thoroughly enjoyed I must say... Less breakages than I expected but the track was not too punitive, however, a broken chassis ended my buggy but many thanks to Nick n Paul for thinking on their feet while I was dithering, they got me back up n running with Nicks buggy in double quick time! Big thanks to Danny for giving us the chance of a win, sorry Danny but we blew it mate... :mad:

Bib big up for Nori n James for getting the night on n for all those who created the track while some of us were battling with the M62 overflow...

when is the next one!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

P.s. For Jon Price.. Ping me on here if you dig out that B4 chassis please.. Chee-yahs..

[neallewis]

Really good endurance format for the meeting today. Different and fun. 5 teams of 4 drivers each had 1 hour track time, with 1000+ laps after 4 hours racing. Thanks Nori for spending the time to work it all out, track builder(s) commentators and competitors for making it a great meeting.

[Tilly]

Big thanks to nori n James for organising the event it was good fun, an interesting change from the normal format. Would def do another night like this.
Thanks to all of team 5 for a good race with a close 3rd place finish.

Craig

[cobra_shadow]

Well its the day after and I must say the old body is now screaming you will never do that again will you !

Ha little does it know :woot:

[bricol]

Sounds like there was a bust B4 chassis last night. If the offered one doesn't turn up, we've got a spare one here. Probably be able get it in the Dewsbury direction somehow.

Bri

[NeilRalph77]

Team Bellwood Durango for the win:thumbsup:

So I was right then:p

Should have been a synch for some of you Ardent veterans:thumbsup:

[Nori_10]

Thanks to all who took part in this endurance race, and James as our referee, glad you all enjoyed yourselves. Track was good for this type of event.

New Rules
I think that teams with older drivers like myself should be awarded a bonus of 50 laps.
Extra 10 laps awarded to drivers for each year over 50 years.

[emtee]

Sounds like there was a bust B4 chassis last night. If the offered one doesn't turn up, we've got a spare one here. Probably be able get it in the Dewsbury direction somehow.

Bri

Hi Bri.. Yeh that will be me:blush:.. I've not heard from john so if yours is available I'll take it off your hands.. With a donation to your fave charity of course!! Ping me back on here or msg/call 0793 1812 907 I'll have ASAP.. Many thanks...

Thanks to all who took part in this endurance race, and James as our referee, glad you all enjoyed yourselves. Track was good for this type of event.

New Rules
I think that teams with older drivers like myself should be awarded a bonus of 50 laps.
Extra 10 laps awarded to drivers for each year over 50 years.

I'll go for that! That's 50 more laps for our team so we won it!! Yay! :thumbsup:

[emtee]

Current hit count 1629!!

Looks like endurance nights are the way to go... :woot: