10 electric, Cullingworth booking in Friday 9.5.14 FULL 30 DRIVERS!!!

[jameswilkinson7]

Hi all.

Please use this thread to book in for racing on Friday.

Unfortunately we need to put a cap of 30 drivers in place to make sure we have enough time for 4 rounds and a final.


We should be able to have the heats sorted and we will want to start racing at bang on 7. So track building is the priority.

We need more volunteers to collectively help build / dismantle the track, this also applies at the end of the evening putting away the track. So please help, we get more racing in and get to go home at a reasonable time. Don't leave it to the same individuals to do the honours.


Please refrain from practicing until the track has been built.


The deadline for booking in is 9pm Thursday evening, heat listings will be compiled after this time. If you say you are coming then change your mind for what ever reason, you must let me know as this affects everyone else & the heats will not be evenly balanced,



Doors normally open at 6.15pm.

I'll be there for 6, so anyone wanting to help with the track can get there for then.

1/10th Buggies, indoors, carpet, slippy floor and jumps. Family friendly and good fun club level racing.

Address:
Cullingworth Village Hall
Station Road
Cullingworth
Bradford
BD13 5HN.

Visit site for other details: CLICK HERE (http://www.10electric.co.uk/)

[jameswilkinson7]

2wd
1 Jim Furnis
2 Jack Wilkinson
3 James Wilkinson
4 Ian Bellwood
5 James Bellwood
6 Neal Lewis
7 Mark Taylor
8 John Price
9 Jon Price
10 Ryan Edwards
11 Peter Rhodes
12 Lee Frazer
13 Neil Ralph
14 Jamie Paton
15 Craig Tillotson
16 Carl Greenbank
17 Cameron Greenbank
18 Mark Goulding
19 Daniel Lee
20 Paul Mcnicoll
21 Paul Farrand
22 Paul Vernon
23 Douglas Taylor
24 Danny Harrison
25 Gordon Bennet
26 Sam Bennet


4WD
Brian Colman
Paul Dignan
Ian Dignan
Patrick Taylor

[Bells]

Ian Bellwood 2wd
James Bellwood 2wd

[neallewis]

Neal - 2wd

[Ryan Edwards 2]

2wd please

[bricol]

Brian Colman - 4WD
Peter Rhodes - 2WD

[neallewis]

Brian Colman - 4WD


Brian cheating again in anticipation of another shock oil spill. ;)

[bricol]

Nope. Cheating would be stating 2wd :p
I've fitted Peter's car with an oil dispensor in anticipation though.

To be honest, it was probably as much fun as I've had with an rc car since about 1988 when I last used a Schumacher product :D And some of the bits on this one were last used on that car.

Bri

[jampat2004]

Jam pat please with the new b5

[Tilly]

Craig Tillotson 2wd
ooo new B5, that'll be cool to see

[pddiggy]

Paul Dignan - 4wd
Ian Dignan - 4wd

[MarkGoulding]

Mark Goulding - 2wd

[Crashbandit]

Daniel lee - 2wd

[ginge1981]

Paul mcnicoll 2wd beginner ha ha

[Great_Thark]

PV 2wd.

[PaulFarrand]

Paul Farrand 2wd
Patrick Taylor 4wd

[neallewis]

PV = Paul Vernon

[Danny Harrison]

Get me booked in Mr Jagdev, feels like an age since Ive been!

I shall run my 2wd :woot:

[neallewis]

Full house then! will be a good night.

[Bells]

Full house then! will be a good night.

I'm using 2 row mini pins hope Danny don't mind :lol:

[Danny Harrison]

I'm using 2 row mini pins hope Danny don't mind :lol:

Running 4wd now :woot:

Jokes ;)

[Oscar]

What's with all the 2 row stud business?? I've got loads of them, should I auction them off??

[neallewis]

What's with all the 2 row stud business?? I've got loads of them, should I auction them off??

Collectors only now John. Danny has had them banned by brca for sanctioned events as they are not currently commercially available.

[jameswilkinson7]

Lol:lol:

[Danny Harrison]

Lol:lol:

Just call me the tyre Stalin ;)

[pddiggy]

Had a great night. Enjoyed the track. Thanks Nori

[Danny Harrison]

Really good night, great turnout. Hats off to James for doing build and Nori for running it.

[bricol]

Could we give the big ramps a miss though please? Ok once in a while, but they break the flow of the track, and not just for me with the vintage bangers :) from the conversations last night. Last time we had lots of ramps and bumps, twists and turns, but the track flowed well. Especially covered in oil :p

The cross-over ramps - I'm really worried somebody is going to get 2kg of model car in the side of the head - as an adult it's going to hurt, but with a small kid . . .

Bri

[NeilRalph77]

Ha you poor deluded fool's you have my sympathy........ Good track my arse! what sort of fool put's a 6ft ramp in a 4ft sq room?

[J77MYF]

I enjoyed it and thought the track flowed (especially the cross over jump). You're never going to please everyone and the track does change every meeting.

[NeilRalph77]

See above!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oscar]

I actually thought the big ramp worked OK, other than you had to stand at one end of the rostrum to see the downslope properly.

I'm not really a fan of cross overs in general, but in a room that small it does help offer more track options. I get what Brian is saying, so maybe we just make sure the entry to those is very tight and slow, so no real height or length of jump is possible. Maybe that option is still going to allow different tracks, but remain pretty safe??

[Danny Harrison]

Ha you poor deluded fool's you have my sympathy........ Good track my arse! what sort of fool put's a 6ft ramp in a 4ft sq room?

Bit harsh Neal :(

Dont think it was ment to be taken like a ramp. More roll up n down it (unless you have mad skills to jump it):woot::p:D

[neallewis]

Bit harsh Neal :(

Dont think it was ment to be taken like a ramp. More roll up n down it (unless you have mad skills to jump it):woot::p:D

err, Neil... not Neal.

The up and over was fine, as was the cross over. Ralphy is just being miserable because I was beating him with a 25+ year old car, even when he cheated. Touring car track next time:thumbsup:

I actually thought it was a good night racing, and enjoyed it. Running the RC10 puts a smile on my face, its just so fun to drive.

I'm uploading the final videos now.

[neallewis]

2014-15-09 - A Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiY8NHvg74w
TiY8NHvg74w

2014-15-09 - B Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqKH5zoduBg
kqKH5zoduBg

2014-15-09 - C Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGCulK7U9yM
YGCulK7U9yM

2014-15-09 - D Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYWRUiYWkhE
KYWRUiYWkhE

2014-15-09 - 4wd Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzsaH6IP3Q
apzsaH6IP3Q

[Danny Harrison]

Good vids, killed a bit of my soul crashing on second to last lap, next time ;)

[bricol]

The cross over ramps from a car point of view are fine. But I wince every time I see someone bend down to rescue a car anywhere in front of it. Not helped of course, by shouts of "marshal" or "come on" as someone waits for the next car to come past.

I remember Tom being hit in the leg by a car when he was taping the track down. In agony for some time. Same hit on the head and it wouldn't be a surprise to need an ambulance. It'd be like being hit in the head by a hammer. For Friday night toy car racing it seems a bit too dangerous.

A kid I know fell off the bottom of a slide, hit his head, and was basically dead for some minutes. Luckily a neighbour with medical training just happened to be there, with an oxygen bottle set up in his car nearby and got him going again and get him going until paramedics got there and he was flown to hospital. Prognosis was good but with the proviso that the effects might appear as brain injuries as he grows up.

I don't have that medical knowledge or ability. Do you?

Scaremongering? I would have said someone telling me falling off the bottom of a kids slide would cause a near death episode was too, but it does change your viewpoint.

Bri

[J77MYF]

I've just watched the finals (thanks to Neal for the footage :thumbsup:) and I honestly can't see what's dangerous about that cross over jump. It was straight after a tight 180 degree corner so speeds were very low. The cars were getting somewhere around knee height and no one was able to get huge distance. It would be classed as a bobble on the track if we were racing outdoors!

Personally I think they're a great addition to the track because the room to work with is so small. We could say no more jumps but what would be the fun in that? I'm not saying we risk peoples safety but we all know what happens when there's too much red tape. You've probably got more chance of falling off the stage and hurting yourself.

[neallewis]

what on earth are you on about Brian? I've no idea if you are talking about friday night or some meeting you attended 25 years ago? Who is Tom? Jerry's mate?

[bricol]

Tom Potter - last year at Cullingworth, hit hard in the knee - limped quite a bit. Just an accident, but it still hurt. You might not be fully aware of the risks of full length race marshalling Neil - I noticed the other week you were hiding in the stage side room every time I parked on the corner apex tyre just in-front of you :p

Big jumps outside are fine - you've got somewhere to get out of the way. Knee height to an adult, is child head height when they're bending to collect a car - and would you deliberately put a child in front of even a slow moving hammer?

Some of the cars Friday were still flying quite high and far - so even a tight turn into it doesn't always work. Use them as a ramp, but not a cross over - having to marshal across the direction of travel just seems to be too risky, trying to dodge traffic in two directions, while trying to rescue a car, even if you're not being pressurised by being shouted at.

The point I'm trying to make is it's toy car racing for fun on a Friday evening - and if someone gets hurt for the sake of it, then all the fun's gone.

25 years ago, I was long jumping an original Kyosho Ultima over long lines of kids laid down in the grass at gala in a park in Todmordon for the Evening Courier's photographer - different sense of risk then :D

As for falling off the stage - that's your own stupid fault ;)

[NeilRalph77]

Just to weigh in again, hell why not? you talk about use of space! watch the video's how much of the centre of the room is not used? now that you could of used to good effect, well if you hadn't built something that obscured it from view.

[jameswilkinson7]

Oh dear! looks like Ralphy has his knickers well and truly twisted up over this track! :o

Evey time we have a crossover someone isn't happy.. Every time we put a large jump in place, someone isn't happy.

Do we move forward by not using the cross overs and leave the table jumps out?

The hall is very small and it's sometimes hard to use all the space effectively and come up with different ideas. We all want to have fun, right? Personally I love the big jumps and would love to put some even bigger ones in place, mega ramp all the way for me!:thumbsup::woot:

I have always said that if someone dosent like any part of the track, and feels strongly that it should be changed, then we should change it. To do that though you need to turn up with time to make the changes! And present the problems before the racing begins, not after.

I can see Brian has a problem with the crossovers, he always has. I dont believe they are that dangerous, but if he feels that strongly about them that it makes him not want race, then I shall not use them anymore.

Ramps in the center of the hall have always caused problems, I thought it was not ideal, but felt it was still useable and different/interesting. We went with it, maybe that was a bad call?

I am all for compromise, I like the idea of everyone being happy, but I'm not sure that is even possible!

I think we need to voice any opinions of the track before the racing starts. If everyone agrees on the night that something needs changing, then change it!

[Nori_10]

There have been many memorable race meetings where everyone has gone home happy.
It is important that everyone has an enjoyable evenings racing.
Credit must be given to those who regularly turn up early and put the time in to build the track for the rest of us, and those who stay and help put away the track, you know who you are.
Anyone who wishes to build the track and try new ideas feel free.
Please voice your concerns during practice if you are not happy with the track layout and it can be amended.

[neallewis]

There have been some tracks where the ramp was a bit silly to marshal or a bit risky if stood in the wrong place, but Fridays wasn't one of them to be fair. Just watch the videos back, most people just trundled over the tables and the crossover was not an issue as the run up was so small, so cars were just landing over the intended crossover track.
I went away on Friday thinking it was a good fun well run meeting with a good track and everyone on the day seemed happy (apart from Ralphy). I know James likes his big jumps, I do in the right place, but sometimes they could be a bit dangerous if hit at speed, and are difficult to marshal. Example: when we had that corner one that you could not reach if stuck, or the big table top in front of the rostrum where you try to land on the downside, but could fall in the gap if you got it wrong.

There is always an element of risk to marshals or anyone on the track when racing is on. Now awareness is key, and children should not be placed at a marshal point that is a bit more risky than say a regular corner.

Cars on track when taping is a pet hate of mine. Safety in this case should always be a priority.

[cobra_shadow]

There is always an element of risk to marshals or anyone on the track when racing is on. Now awareness is key, and children should not be placed at a marshal point that is a bit more risky than say a regular corner.


If I am not mistaken the BRCA rule book does state that a child under 13 should be helped by the parent.

Now that we have the BRCA rule setter coming to cullingworth ( Danny ) maybe we should have a look at getting the kids some help and as Neal says putting them in the best points for them to be safe.

Ps Ralphy you need to stop spitting your sons dummy out :wub

[cobra_shadow]

Also just thought.

I should be going to the next meeting so if everyone is happy I can go early and set up a track so that as people get there it is ready and people can have a say early about if its ok.
Can we maybe have a poll on here to help with the design. I thought that really helped when doing the designs myself. :thumbsup:
Also

Paul did a design on a napkin and sent it in. Is anyone willing to join in and send some more designs in. Even if you cant be there to build it sometimes just having the layout really helps.
We have spoken about collecting the designs and making a folder with the good ones in so they can be used again. I will be willing to get the folder going and put a few designs in but I think everyone needs to have a say as well. :p

[Oscar]

If I am not mistaken the BRCA rule book does state that a child under 13 should be helped by the parent.


So will it be your Mum or your Dad you will be bringing in future Nick ?? :p

[jampat2004]

Oh dear! looks like Ralphy has his knickers well and truly twisted up over this track! :o

Evey time we have a crossover someone isn't happy.. Every time we put a large jump in place, someone isn't happy.

Do we move forward by not using the cross overs and leave the table jumps out?

The hall is very small and it's sometimes hard to use all the space effectively and come up with different ideas. We all want to have fun, right? Personally I love the big jumps and would love to put some even bigger ones in place, mega ramp all the way for me!:thumbsup::woot:

I have always said that if someone dosent like any part of the track, and feels strongly that it should be changed, then we should change it. To do that though you need to turn up with time to make the changes! And present the problems before the racing begins, not after.

I can see Brian has a problem with the crossovers, he always has. I dont believe they are that dangerous, but if he feels that strongly about them that it makes him not want race, then I shall not use them anymore.

Ramps in the center of the hall have always caused problems, I thought it was not ideal, but felt it was still useable and different/interesting. We went with it, maybe that was a bad call?

I am all for compromise, I like the idea of everyone being happy, but I'm not sure that is even possible!

I think we need to voice any opinions of the track before the racing starts. If everyone agrees on the night that something needs changing, then change it!

Well said James :thumbsup:
I do still very much enjoy coming to cullingworth and think its a great place to race with some top people who attend on a regular basis, I do agree that more input is probably required when it comes to building the track to keep people happy but to keep the collective happy is almost impossible as everyone has different opinions to how and what they want, I personally like a more flowing track with just 1 or 2 jumps but that's my opinion and what suits me.
Think Nick Bs idea about having a folder with the good tracks in is a great idea to look back on for ideas, as we have had tons of superb tracks.
To end this cullingworth is a very good club with a good regular attendance of people that help week in week out, keep up the good work and thanks nori for running the club.

[Nori_10]

OK Guys to solve all this:-

The doors will open at 6pm and if your interested in building the track be there and help out.

The more people that turn up to help build the track would result in less people not liking the layout.

Racing starts at 7pm and the more helpers we get should give ample time to build the track.

Thanks Nori