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tyreman
04-10-2015, 04:28 PM
Anyone else thinks this is a Durango and not a Serpent?
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv211/brianpreddy/92e0ef3657b38f9f22d5116e28f024ee.jpg

cmgreen
04-10-2015, 04:37 PM
One for Tony to answer.......looks like it

Chris Elworthy
04-10-2015, 04:37 PM
Serpent have apparently redesigned the 4wd buggy in shaft drive..great news I'm sure for anyone who's bought the new belt car! Jorn is supposed to be rubbing the 4wd car with front shafts removed on the high grip worlds track.

buggy#0
04-10-2015, 04:41 PM
It's the SRX4 SD. They took a few cars with them because they didn't know how the track would pan out, including an updated SRX2 MM and another car, but the car Joern is running is just his own SRX4 converted to 2WD (they made a shaft drive car for him as he felt more comfortable than with belts on astro).

I don't know if the drivetrain parts are Durango related, but the chassis is Serpent. Not sure which version Hupo is running, but Billy is testing something completely different.

Chalkie
04-10-2015, 04:58 PM
I know Serpent posted about making a SRX4 SD but that looks 100% Durango to me, 410 wheels, small bore shocks with gaiters, bulkheads, all looks straight Durango to me.

Northy
04-10-2015, 05:01 PM
Come off it people, that'a a bloody Durango! :woot:

knighthawk
04-10-2015, 05:33 PM
Question I'd also like to ask is ?

It's the 2WD Class !
( not a converted 4WD, why is this allowed ? )

If they don't have a competitive 2WD, tough, run it or don't run your 2WD, if it's not 2WD then go home and design one.

buggy#0
04-10-2015, 05:53 PM
Question I'd also like to ask is ?

It's the 2WD Class !
( not a converted 4WD, why is this allowed ? )
Because it's classed on driven wheels only. If it drives 2 wheels at the back, that's the only criteria for eligibility and it's been met - there's nothing that stipulates that a car mustn't have the ability to be converted into a 4WD. The majority of forward motor designs are essentially just 4WD cars with different front bulkheads and redesigned/rearranged chassis - if you were to implement your rule, how would you implement it? Where would the cut-off point be for legality? If any car that shared parts between the two platforms was shown to have the ability to be converted between the two with any number of parts, wouldn't that be illegal too?

The only thing dictated in each class is what wheels can be driven, and the respective minimum weights. If it's at the minimum weight and those wheels are being driven, it's met the regulations - the rest is just the shape of some materials on the chassis. If anything, the extra weight/bulkiness and the lack of kick-up means the 4WD converted cars are at a slight disadvantage in some areas.

D20MCK
04-10-2015, 06:12 PM
It would be funny if it was this car.

http://www.redrc.net/2008/02/toy-fair-serpent-s500-first-pics/

discothesnake
04-10-2015, 06:27 PM
Could be a hybrid of sorts.

Didn't Tony run a hybrid thingy at last few Nationals?

€ric
04-10-2015, 08:15 PM
Let's see what will found in the stores. Racing something you are not selling or do not intend to sell is pointless.
Sure: other brands race prototype cars/parts but basically they are the cars they are selling or will be selling soon.
Currently looking for a new 2WD and the new TLR looks nice. I expect it is the new 2WD, which will probably come with a different gearbox for more rear placement of the battery (notice slots in side bars). Maybe even 2 choices of gearboxes included like the Original 2.0: this time 2x MM instead of 1 RM and 1 MM.
If it is something completely different, I defenitely will not be racing TLR next year.

Race what you sell!

MattW
04-10-2015, 09:42 PM
It would be funny if it was this car.

http://www.redrc.net/2008/02/toy-fair-serpent-s500-first-pics/

Basically (give or take a bit!) it is! Serpent posted a release stating that the the shaft car they were taking was the S500 + 10 years of learning, and the S500 became the durango.

neallewis
04-10-2015, 11:58 PM
LiveRC confirmed that serpent are running a converted durango 4wd car.

cmgreen
05-10-2015, 07:48 AM
LiveRC confirmed that serpent are running a converted durango 4wd car.

LOL - Wonder what 4wd he will be using!

neallewis
05-10-2015, 08:17 AM
LOL - Wonder what 4wd he will be using!

he was interviewed on liverc pit walk, and said it was a new design serpent shaft drive car, that's 4wd with drive shafts removed. He said he preferred this car on this track.

cmgreen
05-10-2015, 10:38 AM
So a Serango then? LOL

I would me mighty pissed if I had a Srx4 then they not using it....

Thought you would be out there Neil?

neallewis
05-10-2015, 11:50 AM
So a Serango then? LOL

I would me mighty pissed if I had a Srx4 then they not using it....

Thought you would be out there Neil?

Ha, if I'd done some nationals to qualify... maybe next time. need to have someone in bottom heat :thumbsup:

Looks like Hupo is running it as well.
http://events.redrc.net/wp-content/gallery/2015-ep-offroad-worlds-tsukuba-japan/mon_honiglname.jpg
http://events.redrc.net/wp-content/gallery/2015-ep-offroad-worlds-tsukuba-japan/sun_honiglpan.jpg

PaulRotheram
05-10-2015, 11:59 AM
Not seen either car with a shell off. Any pictures ive seen all have their bodys on when working in the pits.

neallewis
05-10-2015, 12:04 PM
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2015races/2015-IFMAR-Worlds/2015-Worlds-Day-3-Monday/i-cJT57qs/0/X2/ECSA2352-X2.jpg

Adam Skelding
05-10-2015, 12:21 PM
Looks like a hybrid to me.

DEX410 with a Serpent body on it!
:woot:

DCM
05-10-2015, 06:46 PM
Looks like a hybrid to me.

DEX410 with a Serpent body on it!
:woot:

Sir, I like the cut of your job!!!!

isobarik
08-10-2015, 07:25 AM
Serpent s-500 :D

:thumbsup:

mvh isobarik