new car...

[ben]

New from Xfactory

http://www.2wdrc.com/

DO THE MATH!!

[josh_smaxx]

Ahhhhhh, sounds like this could be good ;)

[josh_smaxx]

I used the wrong word there, meant to say 'looks like this could be good'.

[ben]

Ahhhhhh, sounds like this could be good ;)


I cant hear anything :confused::p

[AndyM]

ooo, is it a lipo chassis for the X6?:)

[steel]

i think lipo chassis b4 mounts and all the other mods we been doin the last couple of months:thumbsup:

[SHY]

I think it comes with a ^2 sticker and a complimentary towel :p

[ben]

Btw, those towels are ACE!:thumbsup: Chazz (with two zees) gave me one. What a Guy!

Do the math! :eh?:

[pro4nut]

single piece chassis?

[Mike Hudson]

oooo looks like there will be alot of standard X6's forsale in the not too distant future :lol::woot:

[ben]

oooo looks like there will be alot of standard X6's forsale in the not too distant future :lol::woot:

DONT SAY THAT!!!! :o

[jono83]

what annoys me is that i have jus built one for xmas i would of waited if i knew this was coming out

[Irri Tant]

oooo looks like there will be alot of standard X6's forsale in the not too distant future

sold mine 4 weeks backhttp://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

insider knowledge :o

or was it just good timing http://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif

[Irri Tant]

single piece chassis?

LiPo stick down the centre with servo mounted to the side like the HPI Pro 4?

Carbon Tub chassis anyone?

[V-Rossi]

Plastic S2 anyone?:drool:

[Cooper]

rear shocktower probably a different shape so you can attach B4 anti roll bars.

new chassis, could be but not in the very near future

maybe some small mod's like you said.

[sly]

Finally put the motor and gearbox back in the right place.

[Garry Driffill]

Finally put the motor and gearbox back in the right place.


Looks the same to me ?

:confused:

I wonder if the car will be a Losi based rather than Associated..

[Darren Boyle]

Interesting stuff........

[Big E]

Finally put the motor and gearbox back in the right place.


Why would we want to slow the car down :confused: :p

[Danosborne6661]

Perhaps a not so ugly shell? That would be enough for me :D

[matdodd]

Why would we want to slow the car down :confused: :p

:lol:

[Big E]

I wonder if the car will be a Losi based rather than Associated..

Why would we want it to understeer :confused: :lol:

And it's not a plasctic S2.we still want the fastest mid motor car :lol::p

Everything that has been done is to improve the car, you will all like it when you see it and it will be a little faster still :thumbsup:

E.

[stegger]

I think it will be as somebody else has said, all the mods people have done to the chassis before and started to do for Lipo! like flattened out the two cell position for the speedo, filled in the slots for the four cell position, carbon battery brace with fixings and mounting hardware and holes for the FT servo mounts.

[MHeadling]

yes I reckon your right stegger, I hope it's not a whole new car as iv only just built a new 4 gear car!

I hope it's offered as a conversion kit, I'm sure it will be like the x5 squared was

[ben]

One piece chassis like the X-60 :confused:

[DCM]

it's an X-6 - E Speed edition.....

[Mike Hudson]

parts better quailty like the X60 and chassis one piece like the X60 too with some refinements that we've all done over the year...?

[Cooper]

why 1 piece chassis? is it bad like how it is now ?

[janus_77]

Why would we want to slow the car down :confused: :p

c'mon Ellis an X-6 is just not fair to the other racers :p

[YoungChazz]

You're right, Janus. Brian Kinwald says, "The X - 6 is cheating."

[mattym0310]

one piece chassis like x-60 with lipo mods and ARB mounts on the shock tower :)

[ashleyb4]

Maybe its just a refinment with a bit more bling like an blue motor plate etc to match the e-speed bits. and the kit coming with the bk2 axles and spacers.

A

[paul01ews]

Come on Darren, spill the beans mate???

Whats new then???

:confused::confused::confused:

[burgie]

i'd like to see it as a complete kit, with all the shocks and stuff in the box....instead of a conversion kit.

[Darren Boyle]

Paul, no beans being spilt from here mate!!! :lol:

It will be worth the wait as ever with us at X-Factory.

[blitzboy]

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh cant wait heeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllp :bored::bored:

[Cooper]

is it me or isn't it on the website anymore?


edit: nevermind, wasn't looking on 2wdrc but on the global site

[bigred5765]

is it me or isn't it on the website anymore?


edit: nevermind, wasn't looking on 2wdrc but on the global site

just you,?

http://www.2wdrc.com/

[SpeedyDad]

I know :p

[ayrton74s]

Hi,

will be the same as the x-5 squared?


- New CHASSIS With Improved Design & New Material
- New BODY SHELL
- All New Multi-Color DECALS Now Standard
- Improved IDLER BAR

and

- configured for using LiPo batteries


I think it is very realistic

[Darren Boyle]

I doubt VERY much that we will introduce an "idler bar" on the 2wd......

I can confirm that there ARE more changes/differances than the few you have listed....several more

[Gnarly Old Dog]

I can confirm that Big E was certainly very quick with his 6-squared today.

Not that he was ever slow with the non-squared of course...

Looked long and hard at it but couldn't spot any evidence of the blue towel anywhere though:p

Very tidy. Nice job Chazz.

[Garry Driffill]

Did anyone get any photos of the new car?

[Gnarly Old Dog]

Sorry - not that I'm aware of.

The light wasn't good enough and the shutter speed wasn't fast enough to capture it whilst in full flight:lol:

[Big E]

Did anyone get any photos of the new car?

No one got any pics of it :p

Anyone that tried was beating away with my old X6 :woot:

I feel sorry for the 4wd's who I beat :p

[JustARcFan]

if it's a complete car and not a conversion kit I think asso and Losi are going to feel it big time!

[Garry Driffill]

No one got any pics of it :p

Anyone that tried was beating away with my old X6 :woot:


I thought that would happen :lol:

[sime46]

How long before we get some REAL info ie; spec, timescale, price??? Can we upgrade our current cars??? At least tell us when some info will come. Chuck us a bone.....please....:drool:

[KevLee]

No one got any pics of it :p

Anyone that tried was beating away with my old X6 :woot:


The car does look very neat indeed, quite a few nice little changes.

[Lee]

How long before we get some REAL info ie; spec, timescale, price??? Can we upgrade our current cars??? At least tell us when some info will come. Chuck us a bone.....please....:drool:

I think i am allowed to say that there will be more info coming in the next couple of weeks, including an approximate release date etc, from what i saw today, certain parts are not 100% complete, so i assume the boys will report back to Chazz and either finalise a design on the parts or change bits here and there.

The car looks awesome, so neat and a huge step forward for x factory, and personally i think AE and Losi are already feeling it ;)

[mark christopher]

Did anyone get any photos of the new car?
was one at worksop today,

[Darren Boyle]

Lee has it about right (wow that make a change :p ;))

More info will of course follow as soon as we are in a position to give it.

Three prototype cars ran today, Ellis at EPR and Tom and Dan at Worksop. Tom and Dan still did not have some finished parts on their cars today since good old Royal Mail did not deliver them in time, we sent them out on Tuesday and still not with the lads up until yesterday!!:mad:

Be patient to those of you are keen to see one, those who have seen it in the flesh today will already know what it is going to be like when it arrives and we hope will be suitably impressed. All prices, full specs, how it is coming will be released in due course, but we must get the final parts and alterations perfect BEFORE we can do this.

For those of you with the current X6 - dont panic, this car is not about to go "out of date" overnight, we in fact are still selling the original (as are all of our dealers) and actually have another 25 more of them from the last ever batch coming into stock and coming across the atlantic right now as I type this. These will remain available (as a cheaper budget version if you like) until they are sold out.

The next few days and weeks will see a LOT of movement and more details being released.....stay tuned!

[Garry Driffill]

was one at worksop today,

I hear Dan & Tom run them today ?

edit: Darren beat me too it :)

[mark christopher]

ok for those not at workop here is a pic of toms new x6 ;):D

[Darren Boyle]

Mark, you had me worried then for a few seconds..........

[Garry Driffill]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[pizzaman]

can you tell me if all the old spares rear arms an tower etc are still gonna fit the new one as ive only had my x6 2 months and spent £200 on spares :(

[Darren Boyle]

We can reveal no more and no less than what has already been said at this present time I'm afraid

[matdodd]

Tom's car looked mint;) today!
Definitely another good step forward :thumbsup:

[andy05]

How soon before the new season will the car come out aproxametly(weeks or months)? was thinking of getting one but would want the latest model really and some track time obviously

[Darren Boyle]

Coming soon.....................:eh?:

[blitzboy]

saw an x6 ^2 at worksop today ,. was nice sorry no piccies guys but it looks well sweet well done x factory top notch in everyway next to add to my list x6 rock come ^2 can t wait

[Garry Driffill]

To be fair, if its been run at a meeting, people know about it and have seen what "Differences" there are to the car, Why arent you able to sale "Some Details" ?

[Darren Boyle]

3 "Prototypes" have run at two meetings today, no finished cars have yet been seen in public.

Details will follow, when they are ready....be patient, its worth it.

[blitzboy]

the plot thickens me thinks :o

[glypo]

One thing is for sure... it has a wing.

http://www.rcnews.net/off-road-news/787-x-6-squared.html

[jono83]

oOps

[jono83]

double post

[ashleyb4]

Jono asked a thick question lol.

A

[YoungChazz]

Darren, as usual, is correct, as are the rest of the Boyz. I will divulge what I can here: It will be a new Kit, K019, and there will be no upgrade kit available. The existing X - 6 Conversion Kit, K011, will become obsolete when stocks are exhausted, then the 6 Squared will replace it..

Why no upgrade kit? There are sooo many new parts that an upgrade kit would have to be priced very close to the whole Conversion Kit -- not worth it. Most of the new parts are the expensive ones -- graphite chassis, battery hold-downs, shock tower, etc.

The 6 Squared will be very much like the X - 6, just as the 5 Squared is much like the original X - 5. And just like the 5 Squared, the 6 Squared has many, many refinements. We are doing very heavy math here.

So those who currently own an X - 6 will not find their cars suddenly obsolete. While we think many will want the new X - 6 Squared, we think a number of others, impressed by their results with the X - 6, will simply keep those cars and be quite competitive.

Most parts from the X - 6 will fit on the X - 6 Squared. And, of course, an X - 6 will make a great "donor car" for an X - 6 Squared.

As Darren has said, the existing stocks of K011 X - 6s will be excellent values, and will provide years of great race results for anyone. If this were a revolutionary car, we would have called it something like the X - 7.. But it's not revolutionary, just an evolution. Therefore, 6 Squared.

[bender]

I'm looking at buying an X-6 (now the X-6^2) and have a question for all the X-6 drivers who have driven their cars on low-grip dirt tracks - what are the handling characteristics of the car entering corners off-power?

One thing that still annoys me about "normal" 2wd's is that on loose dirt tracks, the back end slides out off power when turning into corners, especially if it is a corner following a fast section/straight.

Now, this is quite controllable on smooth dirt tracks, but unfortunately I race on bumpy dirt tracks which means mid way though one of these slides the back end of the car will catch a rut/bump and become uncontrollable.

I was thinking that because the X-6 is set-up more like a 4wd (no rear overhang) then it should be very stable entering a corner.

Would this be correct? I'm not concerned about grip exiting corners under power because I've always been able to use the throttle smoothly enough to minimise any wheelspin - it's the stability into corners which is what I'm looking for.

Any opinions?

[Gayo]

Bender, you are right in your analysis, no rear overhang means that there is no '911' effect, and the rear end stays at the back. In my experience, if you slightly overshoot the corner, the car will only understeer, not fishtail.

At first (as everyone I'd guess), I thought that the X-6 would be very good on high-grip and not so on low-grip, but in fact the car is very good on both and, best of all, excels on bumpy tracks.:lol:
Bring on the X-6²! Way to go X-Factory :thumbsup:

[mark christopher]

To be fair, if its been run at a meeting, people know about it and have seen what "Differences" there are to the car, Why arent you able to sale "Some Details" ?

should have been at worksop :p

One thing is for sure... it has a wing.

http://www.rcnews.net/off-road-news/787-x-6-squared.html (http://www.rcnews.net/off-road-news/787-x-6-squared.html)

it has more the car is pictures here http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=192574&postcount=55

[bender]

Thanks Gayo, sounds like I will have to start saving ;)

[Darren Boyle]

There you guys the BOSS has now spoken and many details you have all been craving for are there. The part number, it will be a conversion and NOT a complete car, it IS still very similiar in concept to the current X6, it does have new rear tower, new chassis, LIPO battery strap and MANY other parts besdies (which will ALL be revealed on the next press release).

The reason for silence and discretion up to now has been at Chazz's request, he is the boss, we tend to do as he asks (most of the time!! LOL)

[MHeadling]

Cheers for the info Darren, glad it's going to be a conversion

Well done x factory for doing it like this as it saves you money rather than having to buy a new car each year and the spares package you need doesn't have to change that much.

[YoungChazz]

At last! Darren says something that's emphatically not true. I'm not boss of anything -- I can't even pick out which shirt to wear in the morning; therefore I have a million that are all the same.

X Factory is a company driven by the Family, not some corporate board of directors. So, in fact, I'm not a boss. My only job is to watch what the Family is doing, listen to the Boyz, ask Paul to design it, and bring it to you. Often that takes longer than you or we like, and sometimes your ideas don't work out, but our primary job is listening to the Family to bring you the very fastest cars at the lowest possible price.

All of us at X Factory exist to serve the Family. You are the boss.

[Darren Boyle]

Cool...............

Right Chazz, since "we" are all the boss, our last order I will have for free then please!!! LOL

[strobe]

Will the X6 squared come with a new shell design. Inquiring cause i was going to get a new shell sprayed up for my X6 for the up-coming season. Don't want to waiste any more money if a new car is going to be on the market soon.

[V-Rossi]

Darren, I've made you a pm richer:)

[ben]

At last! Darren says something that's emphatically not true. I'm not boss of anything -- I can't even pick out which shirt to wear in the morning; therefore I have a million that are all the same.

ahhh so that's why i thought you were wearing the same clothes for a week :lol:

.. you have a big family chazz :thumbsup:

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Well I was going to get a new reciever and servo but they can wait the money will be going on one of these now.

[Irri Tant]

does this look like it or the person looking @ the picture here (http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/0/02/Character_of_the_donkey_from_Shrek_2.JPG) ? :p

[Mike Hudson]

I'm going to run my current X6 chassis till it's death then get this polished up refinement when the time comes :)
Will the current X6 users get a choice of an X6squard upgrade kit instead getting a full conversion again as I see a couple of the parts are still the same???

[Darren Boyle]

No Mike, there will not be any coversion kit from X6 to Squared spec, too much would need changing and a conversion kit would be an almost new car

[Mike Hudson]

No Mike, there will not be any coversion kit from X6 to Squared spec, too much would need changing and a conversion kit would be an almost new car
ok thanks for clear up Darren :)

[mattym0310]

Saw dans at the weekend and the car looked good and very tidy. Nice improvements but will be running mine till it's death like mike before I replace it :)

[DaveP]

Will the base donor car still be an RC10B4 ?

[mattym0310]

yep.. a b4 or x6

[Mike Hudson]

Will the base donor car still be an RC10B4 ?
Of course!!! the new conversion looks to be a much neater better moulded refined X6 with some new nice features that we've had to do ourselves on the current x6 :)

[b44_will]

anyword on when these are comming out.decided to make my b4 in to a x6 but i will wait for the x6'2 now.also are these cars easy to drive indoors with a brushless motor in?.i have only raced my b4 with a saturn 20t sealed endbell motor in it.

[MHeadling]

Any one got any pics yet?? i keep checking 2wdrc.com

[JCJC]

Page down, end of first report, few newish cars, will improve if lightened, care of Kropy's post:
http://www.johnnyboydotca.blogspot.com/

looks like mine with a fancy battery strap, any guess on the other tube!

[janus_77]

1st official pictures

- 1 piece X-60 style chassis
- different rear arms
- different rear shocktower


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X – 6 SQUARED DEBUTS IN U.S. AND U.K.



The new X – 6 Squared makes its debut this weekend in major races on both sides of the Atlantic. X Factory Team drivers have the updated version of The New Math at the Petit Race in U.K. and the CRCRC MidWinter in Columbus, Ohio.

U.K. drivers Ellis Stafford, Dan Greenwood, and Tom Cockerill will be joined at the Petit Race by new X-Team drivers Cyril Baldini (France), Bruno "Elvo" Heremans (Belgium), and Stefan Mesker (Netherlands). They will be driving the X – 6 Squared as well as the new X – 60 truck Conversion and the 4WD X – 5 Squared.

On the other side of the Atlantic, Brian Kinwald and Paul Sinclair will intro the X – 6 Squared at the 22nd Annual C.R.C.R.C. MidWinter Championships. From the pits in Columbus, Brian said, "I got my car three weeks ago and absolutely love it. The quality of all the parts is by far better than anything we had before."

Chief Engineer Paul Sinclair added, "Just like the truck, the X – 6 Squared represents a huge step forward for X Factory. The new car is simpler, higher quality, and retains all the on-track characteristics of the great original X – 6. The Squared is so much quicker and easier to build and work on."

"Our schedule right now is to ship the X – 6 Squared to distributors and dealers the last week of January, and release it to the public on our web site in early February, said Chazz. Customers will be able to get the Squared most quickly through their local hobby shop."

#5284 is Brian Kinwald's X – 6 Squared. A blue glow antenna is in the second antenna mount position.

#5297 is Paul Sinclair's X – 6 Squared.

[MHeadling]

The conversion looks good!!

There doesn't look too many changes so hopefully not too expensive

I may just get the chassis, I take it a 4 gear car can be put into new chassis??

[Gayo]

1 A blue glow antenna is in the second antenna mount position.
Groovy baby yeah!:lol:

The rear tower looks identical to me:confused: Maybe it's not the new one...

[janus_77]

The rear tower looks identical to me:confused: Maybe it's not the new one...

Yes it does "look" identical. But since the new rear arms are straight instead of having that small "bend" at the end. The tower needed to be a bit higher to have enough uptravel.

[mark christopher]

The conversion looks good!!

There doesn't look too many changes so hopefully not too expensive

I may just get the chassis, I take it a 4 gear car can be put into new chassis??

according to below you may need more , im sure the rear wishbones and mounts have change a bit too

Darren, as usual, is correct, as are the rest of the Boyz. I will divulge what I can here: It will be a new Kit, K019, and there will be no upgrade kit available. The existing X - 6 Conversion Kit, K011, will become obsolete when stocks are exhausted, then the 6 Squared will replace it..

Why no upgrade kit? There are sooo many new parts that an upgrade kit would have to be priced very close to the whole Conversion Kit -- not worth it. Most of the new parts are the expensive ones -- graphite chassis, battery hold-downs, shock tower, etc.

The 6 Squared will be very much like the X - 6, just as the 5 Squared is much like the original X - 5. And just like the 5 Squared, the 6 Squared has many, many refinements. We are doing very heavy math here.

So those who currently own an X - 6 will not find their cars suddenly obsolete. While we think many will want the new X - 6 Squared, we think a number of others, impressed by their results with the X - 6, will simply keep those cars and be quite competitive.

Most parts from the X - 6 will fit on the X - 6 Squared. And, of course, an X - 6 will make a great "donor car" for an X - 6 Squared.

As Darren has said, the existing stocks of K011 X - 6s will be excellent values, and will provide years of great race results for anyone. If this were a revolutionary car, we would have called it something like the X - 7.. But it's not revolutionary, just an evolution. Therefore, 6 Squared.

No Mike, there will not be any coversion kit from X6 to Squared spec, too much would need changing and a conversion kit would be an almost new car

[kropy]

http://www.redrc.net/2009/01/x-factory-to-debut-x-6-squared/

[Tom3012]

In the first picture... is that a near gearbox? whats with the metal spacers between the case and the motor mount? Also... on the other side theres some sort of bracegoing to the battery strap? Whats that about?

[Mike Hudson]

same gearbox, motor plate is just spaced out for some reason :eh?:
in the second pic the brace on the battery strap is just a home made fan mount if you look again :D

[janus_77]

In the first picture... is that a near gearbox? whats with the metal spacers between the case and the motor mount? Also... on the other side theres some sort of bracegoing to the battery strap? Whats that about?

Thats Kinwald's car, not much stock items in there. Costom braces, costom front shocktower and ballend mounts. Not quite sure on the spacers, as his motormount is costum aswell. Maybe he moved the motor a little for better left/right balance.

[chemax92]

May he moved the motor a little for better left/right balance.

I'm pretty sure about spacers, better balance. Tried that in my x6 but you must check first motorplate/slipper clearance. :)

[Tom3012]

same gearbox, motor plate is just spaced out for some reason :eh?:
in the second pic the brace on the battery strap is just a home made fan mount if you look again :D


in the picture though, on the right hand side (motor mount side) theres a yellow piece of... plastic? i thought that was the mount for the fan... i mean the carbon fibre brace which is screwed into the gearcase on the opposite side to the motor mount and then it seems to bolt onto the battery strap with a blue servo mount? surely thats not a fan mount? (in the picture it looks like a CF brace which is next to the motor wires)

[YoungChazz]

There are two photos, one Brian's car, the other Paul's. Paul's car (the one with only one antenna) is completely production -- anyone who purchases an X - 6 Squared will get a car exactly like Paul's.

Brian, on the other hand, never met a part upon which he could not improve. Without actually asking him, I think that every single part on Brian's car has been touched in at least one spot by his Dremel. And it's well-known that Brian is the most innovative guy in R/C. He makes hundreds of new parts every year -- we only see a the ones that work. So even on our brand new X - 6 Squared, there are BK innovations all over the place.

And, yes, some of his innovations on display here are in the pipeline as Dirtz Dialled Partz, the first one due out mid-February and the next a few weeks later. But what you see on Paul's car is production. D.D.P., like E-Speed, is optional.

[JustARcFan]

Looks very nice but I'm not going to buy it. I have already 2 X6's so 3 would be a little to much :lol:

[bender]

Brian looks like he's running Kyosho shocks too.

[dancoog]

There are two photos, one Brian's car, the other Paul's. Paul's car (the one with only one antenna) is completely production -- anyone who purchases an X - 6 Squared will get a car exactly like Paul's.


Chazz, silly question but why is Brian running two antennas? looks a bit weird.

[YoungChazz]

The tall one is not an antenna. It's a blue glow stick. Car is major cool out on the track. Very easy to find in a crowd...

[Gayo]

What is the reason for re-designing the rear arms?

Congrats for the new shell, it looks waaaay better (sorry SHY:lol:) but it's still unmistakable (sp?).

From RedRC :
http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/x-factoryc-62bdody.jpg

[Gayo]

The tall one is not an antenna. It's a blue glow stick. Car is major cool out on the track. Very easy to find in a crowd...
Like this one? http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMPN3&P=ML

Oooh I need one badly:wub

[Darren Boyle]

The new arms were designed for two main reasons,

1. We needed a new mould anyway, our existing mould had seen a LOT of use and was getting tired due to the demand on that toll to produce the 1,000's of arms that were asked of it,

2. Well if we are going to make a new tool then how could we improve on what we have, well it would always be handy if any single wishbone (control arm, sorry Chazz) would fit either side of the car, now it can, since they are no longer handed and perfectly straight (no bend any longer) - shock mounting hole psotioning has been adjusted on our new rear tower to compensate to keep the rear geomtry EXACTLY the same as before on the older X6

The quality too of the mould means that you now get a fantastic clean and crisp wishbone every time............

[SpeedyDad]

Like this one? http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMPN3&P=ML

Oooh I need one badly:wub
Yup, thats the one.:D

[Mike Hudson]

What is the reason for re-designing the rear arms?

They have been redesigned to be flat and not raised at the ends so there is no left and right wishbones, so if you break one and have bought a spare pair then you will still have one spare for either side instead of having to buy another pair for the origional X6 if you break say two right hand side wishbones and only have left hand ones spare which you can't use... understand? lol

[Mike Hudson]

haha beaten to it by a few seconds from darren :yawn::lol:

[Mike Hudson]

the shell looks slightly adjusted too am i right? The scoops at the back are now on both sides instead of just the left hand side on the origional shell?

[Gayo]

Thanks guys. Yes, the new wishbones-arms look the business. Is it still the same wheelbase? Original arms were rather swept-forward... not so symetrical.

Mike : I see also more 'squared' ;) windows, unless it comes from the painting.

[Gayo]

Yup, thats the one.:D
:thumbsup:
Can you shorten it? 457mm seems a lot to me:blush:

[Cockerill]

Thanks guys. Yes, the new wishbones-arms look the business. Is it still the same wheelbase? Original arms were rather swept-forward... not so symetrical.

Mike : I see also more 'squared' ;) windows, unless it comes from the painting.

The wheelbase is still the same. The arms still have the 'sweep' just not the 'kink' in the arm, so they can be used on both sides.

The shell has been 'squared' up. The main changes are to the window and rear vent, both of which have been spotted already.

[Mike Hudson]

The arms still have the 'sweep' just not the 'kink' in the arm, so they can be used on both sides.
Has taking the kink in the arm away changed the way car handles at all?

[YoungChazz]

Taking the "kink" out moved the lower shock holes slightly, and that required a different tower to keep the geometry identical. Which, of course, has been done. Thus, no difference in handling.

There is another part of the body ("Shell," Darren?) that has been "squared." Let's see who can spot it -- no fair calling the Team guys!

[Speedypenguin]

:thumbsup:
Can you shorten it? 457mm seems a lot to me:blush:



You leave a portion of it wrapped up inside the body. you also need a slightly larger diameter clear tube to put it in.

[Mike Hudson]

The back looks to be squared off? Also looks like it has those raised lines for the motor plate on both sides the same aswell now?

Thanks for clearing up the info on the kinky bit :drool:

Taking the "kink" out moved the lower shock holes slightly, and that required a different tower to keep the geometry identical. Which, of course, has been done. Thus, no difference in handling.

There is another part of the body ("Shell," Darren?) that has been "squared." Let's see who can spot it -- no fair calling the Team guys!

[YoungChazz]

Yes, Mike, the rear top has been "Squared off" a bit.

When the original body was designed, we went for a low, sleek, "swoopy" look, and Jason did a great job. The X - 6 is easy to pick out in a crowd.

We continue to like that, which is why the new Squared body is not changed much. Jason continued our distinctive low shape while at the same time creating an agressive new look. It's refreshing!

[Paul_Sinclair]

The rear geometry isn't exactly the same... All the effective shock angles are the same, but we added just a tick more uptravel (.050" or 1.27 mm) to make sure the chassis can bottom out before the suspension. On the original X - 6 it was sometimes close depending on exactly how you had the shock eyelet pieces mounted and which hole you were running. I think the Squared tower looks 100% better too, as it follows the wing much better, though that was honestly not a design goal.

[mark christopher]

does it still need the longer rear axles for the droop?

[kropy]

Yes, Mike, the rear top has been "Squared off" a bit.

When the original body was designed, we went for a low, sleek, "swoopy" look, and Jason did a great job. The X - 6 is easy to pick out in a crowd.

We continue to like that, which is why the new Squared body is not changed much. Jason continued our distinctive low shape while at the same time creating an agressive new look. It's refreshing!
Plus the entire cab section has been squared off to keep up with the whole "squared theme" & the best part NO wrap around window :D

[dgriffin]

Kropy - when are you gonna make your way down to CRCRC and race with me sometime? ;)

[SpeedyDad]

Dan, you racing at the Cactus Ckassic this year?

[kropy]

Kropy - when are you gonna make your way down to CRCRC and race with me sometime? ;)
Dan ~ I'm retired from racing, My wife & I just bought our first Home

[MHeadling]

Is there any details on what you will get in the conversion??

Chassis,Rear Shock tower,Shell,Rear arms.....?? what else I wonder!

[mark christopher]

Is there any details on what you will get in the conversion??

Chassis,Rear Shock tower,Shell,Rear arms.....?? what else I wonder!

mark its a full conversion kit to superseed the current one when old stock run out. as has been posted by the guys in the know so i would expect what is in the kit conversion now

[MHeadling]

Got you! so it will have everything to convert a B4 over to x6 squared.

[YoungChazz]

The X - 6 Squared Conversion Kit, just like every Kit we make, will contain everything necseeary to convert the donor car. In this case, B4 to X - 6 Sq.

[Darren Boyle]

Or.......

Original "X6" to new "X6 Squared" ;) :D :woot:

[sime46]

Mine is ordered, cant wait to get it. Have many others pre ordered Darren?

[pizzaman]

Mine is ordered, cant wait to get it. Have many others pre ordered Darren?


were you pre orderin from? is it a uk shop?

[sime46]

DMS racing mate. Talk to Darren(on here). He'll sort you out.

[pizzaman]

cheers will be on phone in mornin orderin mine :D

[pizzaman]

do u have any idea when the bring sold in uk?

[Darren Boyle]

The first batch is hoping to be leaving the states at the end of next week, all being well should reach us by the 10th or so of February if customs play ball and give it a smooth passage through the system.

Full spec WILL be announce any day, the flyer is all written but we are just waiting for the final few pieces of the jigsaw to come together and the full press release will be made.

Over two thirds of the first batch is now already pre-sold to customers and our network of UK dealers, second batch will hopefully be less then two weeks behind the first in its despatch to us.

Price is almost finalised, expect it to be pretty much smack in between the current price of the existing X6 and the new X60 truck kit.

Some spares for the new car are already being packaged up and getting ready for despatch to us.

The current stock of the very last batch of existing X6's will be on special offer through us and all of our dealers when the new car is shipped for anyone who fancies a car that is still really fast and dialled to the track but will now be available for that little bit cheaper.

More news to come VERY soon on the "X6 Squared"

[derek5]

Hi Darren,
do you know that, they will produce a conversion kit for the existing X6 to X6 Square? same as X5 > X5 Square.... thanks!

Derek

[SpeedyDad]

Hi Darren,
do you know that, they will produce a conversion kit for the existing X6 to X6 Square? same as X5 > X5 Square.... thanks!

Derek

Nope. There are too many new parts. Almost every part is new.

[YoungChazz]

The K019 X - 6 Squared Conversion Kit converts an AE B4 to an X - 6 Squared. If you have an X - 6 and want to convert it to X - 6 Squared, the K019 will accomplish that too.

There will be no Upgrade Kit to move the original 6 to Squared because, as Dad says, there are too many parts involved, and they are all the expensive ones. There would be no significant price difference between the Upgrade Kit and the K019 Conversion Kit.

When the 4-Gear transission came out, we made Upgrade Kits because you could spend just $49.99 and turn your 3-gear into a 4-Gear. A lot of people wanted the new chassis so they didn't have to drill their old one, but that Kit was still just $99.99, a little more than half the price of a new K011 Conversion Kit.

[mark christopher]

beat by chazz

[General Accident]

I want one sooooo badly, but as I've still not got round to converting the 3-gear I bought from a fellow oOple-ist into a 4-gear yet (I've got all the bits from DMS, just no time) I guess it'll have to wait. I think I'm gonna have to run mine with the only speedo and motor I've got spare at the moment, A-finals watch out, here come a Tamiya TEU-101BK and Sport Tuned motor :lol::lol:

[dancoog]

I see that the chassis has the indents for the two forward cells still. With the new brace how would you fasten or secure the forward mounted cells?

Obviously design is shifting toward the Lipo optimisation now.

[Paul_Sinclair]

Dan - we offer a "cells" battery strap separate from the kit - part #1224. The strap was released with the X - 60 truck.

You're right though - the X - 60 and X - 6 Squared were definitely designed around Lipo first, cells second, and by all appearances that seems to be the right way to go.

[steel]

[quote=DMS Racing;199952]The first batch is hoping to be leaving the states at the end of next week, all being well should reach us by the 10th or so of February if customs play ball and give it a smooth passage through the system


Any news:drool:

[YoungChazz]

So close now we can taste it. Hope to ship the distributors Tuesday Feb 10.

Can anybody guess what is the delay now? Let's all say it together: CF battery straps. Just like the truck, LOL.

We'll be at the shop all weekend packaging parts bags.

[Darren Boyle]

Any news:drool:

As Chazz has said, slight delay with Carbon Fibre battery straps, but should be all ready for shipment on Tuesday which should see them here around the 20th now with all being well with UK customs.....

[telboy]

Wont the new chassis fit the old X6 then?

[_sleigh_]

Sure will fit. Only extra item you'll need is the rear pivot pin bushes that fit in the chassis.
Of course the wishbone, rear tower and all other 'squared' items would be a great upgrade at the same time too.

[SpeedyDad]

Sure will fit. Only extra item you'll need is the rear pivot pin bushes that fit in the chassis.
Of course the wishbone, rear tower and all other 'squared' items would be a great upgrade at the same time too.
You will also need the battery strap

[_sleigh_]

It's funny, I just realised I'd missed that while sitting watching American Idol.

[telboy]

Sweet, cheers Phil.

[YoungChazz]

And you must have the original AE servo mounts. Wife sez I never throw anything away, and now I know why. They're around here somewhere...

[YoungChazz]

Phil, you're supposed to be gazing lovingly at your new wife, not watching sex pots on American TV. Not a good way to start off the new llife together, now, is it?

LOL

[Body Paint]

Phil, you're supposed to be gazing lovingly at your new wife, not watching sex pots on American TV. Not a good way to start off the new llife together, now, is it?

LOL

I imagine Phil will claim that it its Tina who is watching some American sexpots and Phil is being forced to put up with it ;)