British Winter Open Championship 6th/7th Feb 2016

[RudeTony]

British Winter Open Championship

BRCA 10th Off-Road
2016 British Winter Open Championship
6th / 7th February 2016

Winter 2015/16:
Many clubs hold their Winter Series of events through the winter months. Check around at your clubs to see what’s been hosted in your areas. Many racers turn into what I call fair weather racers and move into the Indoor Season events. Many clubs up and down the country have indoor venues and there is a lot of racing on carpet with man made jumps and other features.

The 2016 BRITISH WINTER OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP:
The BRCA 10th Section run a prestigious one off event called the British Winter Open Championship.
This year the date is 6th/7th of February. The 2WD event will be run on Saturday the 6th and the 4WD event on Sunday the 7th.
A perfectly timed event, that sees the racers compete with their new rides and certainly great preparation towards the forthcoming season.

Hosts of the 2016 event:
The club is situated in the Moulton College where it has grown to attract racers from all over the country for club night racing and at its popular winter series. Even racers from Europe pay ‘Stone’ as it’s known, a visit.
The club hosted this event (BWOC) back in 2013 where it did a fabulous job. Now we are back and the club is as excited as ever in holding a great event. Matt Owen the Chairman of the club is probably one of the most passionate organisers in our sport and with him at the forefront, we are more than confident of an amazing weekend for the British Winter Open Championships (BWOC).

The Track and Surface:
The surface for the BWOC will be Astro Turf. A high grip blue Astro.
As usual the club always has some very demanding jumps and jump sequences along with some slippery corners just to keep your attention on a demanding lap.
We are all looking forward to this great event.

Controlled Tyre
The 2016 BWOC permits only two types of tyre for the rear axle.
The permitted rear tyres for 2wd and for 4wd are :-
Schumacher Mini-Spike (Original & Mk.2) and Ballistic Buggy Mini-Spike.
Front tyres are a free choice.
Compound and quantity used is not restricted.

Event Information
Event schedule:
This event will have 2 practice sessions, 4 rounds and finals for all. If you manage to get into that prestigious A Final, then it will be 3 legs for those guys to decide the BWOC Champion of 2016 in 2WD. The same method the next day for 4WD.
The doors at Silverstone normally open up around 6.30-6.45am
Practice session will start no later than 8.00am in heat order. Be ready to race by 7.45am if you are in the early heats.

Silverstone and BRCA Personnel:
Of course like any club; there are so many people to mention.
Lots and lots of people behind the scenes make these events happen. The usual suspects will be involved for the event to do what they do best.
Like mentioned before, Matt Owen once again heading up the ‘Stone’ team to pull the event together.
The below will be trackside helping with the event organisation. Along with others from the Silverstone committee and a number of club members.
Matt Owen
Paul Upton
Lee Romang (commentator)
Colin Buck
Sonia Mellett
Simon East
George Carter
And many more that I don’t know as yet
The BRCA crew headed by our Chairman Paul Worsley that will have his Team of personnel that actually run the timing, schedules, refereeing etc., just like at our National events.

Entries’ from abroad
We welcome all entries from across the water and we would love to see you at this event. This is an event that is sanctioned BRCA so it is a must that you hold a BRCA members license to compete. This can easily be done for a small fee of £17. The licence is valid for the whole year so you can compete at other sanctioned BRCA events too. Please visit this URL to optain your licence: http://www.britishradiocarassociation.co.uk/join

Pitting
Power is supplied by the club but you must bring extension leads.
Please bring table and chairs. Any racers from abroad will be catered for either by their own Team or the club.

Booking in and fees:
Entry fee is £15 for each class.

Important info: Booking in opens on the Monday the 21st of December at 7.00pm – Spread the word as it’s a first come first serve scenario.
You must pay for your entries otherwise no space.
It is expected that spaces will go extremely quickly and little doubt that this event will be full.
Please mark the booking in date in your diaries – 21/12/2015 7.00pm – Thank you
Book in through www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk (http://www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk) and go to booking in on the menu

Some Videos of the Silverstone infrastructure:
An interesting little video of how the Silverstone club do their business – a great watch!

‘Stone’ Promo. Video: www.vimeo.com/79581002

2013 2WD BWOC: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjI60B9zqF0

2013 4WD BWOC: www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-NyzXT876w

Feb 2015 BWOC results:
Expect these guys to be on show this year too

2wd podium
1. Lee Martin
2. Neil Cragg
3. Tom Cockerill

4wd podium
1. Neil Cragg
2. Lee Martin
3. Craig Collinson

[RudeTony]

Just a reminded so you all know the booking in time :)

Important info: Booking in opens on the Wednesday the 23rd of December at 7.00pm – Spread the word as it’s a first come first serve scenario.
You must pay for your entries otherwise no space.
It is expected that spaces will go extremely quickly and little doubt that this event will be full.
Please mark the booking in date in your diaries – 23/12/2015 7.00pm – Thank you
Book in through www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk (http://www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk) and go to booking in on the menu

The above has been edited - new booking in time

[RudeTony]

Booking in has been postponed for 48 hours!
New time is Wednesday 7.00pm 23rd of December

[Ross]

Booking in has been postponed for 48 hours!
New time is Wednesday 7.00pm 23rd of December

No, I'll be watching starwars..........

Can I ask why ?

[Ross]

Booking in has been postponed for 48 hours!
New time is Wednesday 7.00pm 23rd of December

Can we book in tonight still ?

[s22jgs]

Hi Tony

I just booked in, but the 4wd paypal basket item shows up as £822,115.76 so i added 2x the 2wd basket items.

Who should i contact to confirm this with?

Thanks

[richm]

I have also done the same

[RandomConflict]

I'm trying to book in but the link isn't live?

[Zippy G]

Im refreshing the link and it isn't working:cry:

[Jamie B4]

how do you book in

[carrot]

the link isn't working for me either:(

[Robocop]

Booked in payed for 2 wd but 4wd drive was £8000000 ish what do we do?

[Jamie B4]

link not working for me either

[tyreman]

http://www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk/british-winter-open-championship/bwoc-driver-entry-form/

[richm]

http://www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk/british-winter-open-championship/

scroll down a bit.

4wd entry fee is now correct apparently

[moggers]

Booked in a few minutes ago, but the 4wd paypal basket item shows up as £822,115.76 so I also added 2x 2wd basket items.

Hope this doesn't cause an issue Tony.

Just double checked the links and paypal basket items and seems all links etc. are fixed and working now :thumbsup:

[Jamie B4]

cool just done

[birdy]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5784/23822924102_e56dd92106_z.jpg

[estebandonde]

over subscribed in 25 mins......really?

[Lee1972]

over subscribed in 25 mins......really?

Got the same reply too :thumbdown: spent five minutes trying to complete the form on my Android phone to no avail :mad: switched the laptop on and managed to get my lad in though.

[tellor]

I'd like to see a time stamp booking in system, I think Stotfold and DMS do it

[Jamie B4]

Wow!!

How do you know if you have managed to get an entry?

Have received a email but quite confusing - only want a 2WD entry but it says 2WD entry on one but 4WD on other

Just like to check

[S_Nori]

Wow!!

How do you know if you have managed to get an entry?

Have received a email but quite confusing - only want a 2WD entry but it says 2WD entry on one but 4WD on other

Just like to check

Got the same thing

[simonrhart]

Wow!!

How do you know if you have managed to get an entry?

Have received a email but quite confusing - only want a 2WD entry but it says 2WD entry on one but 4WD on other

Just like to check

I assume if successful then you would of been invited to pay. I suspect this is a bug.

[Adam F]

Guessing there were only so many 2wd spots, so when people have added two 2wd (to get around the 4wd pricing issue) its taken all the spaces?

Fingers crossed :)

[szymanski2oo1]

need some help...... I had a go at entering, website says over subscribed in 2 and 4wd... so fair enough..... but the email i received is giving me the option to pay up saying "please remember to send payment if you have not done it already" I clicked on the link in the email and I can pay up for both classes if i like. someone tell me not to do it as im pretty sure its some sort of mistake as i dont want to send money if theres no space?
sorry if im sounding stoopid.... my first time booking in via the BRCA website for any kind of race meeting!

[JezT]

need some help...... I had a go at entering, website says over subscribed in 2 and 4wd... so fair enough..... but the email i received is giving me the option to pay up saying "please remember to send payment if you have not done it already" I clicked on the link in the email and I can pay up for both classes if i like. someone tell me not to do it as im pretty sure its some sort of mistake as i dont want to send money if theres no space?
sorry if im sounding stoopid.... my first time booking in via the BRCA website for any kind of race meeting!

I'm with you on that...... Do we pay or not?.... If we don't pay, have we missed our chance to get on some sought of reserve list?

[JezT]

Guessing from the distinct lack of reply that's a no then :bored:

[knighthawk]

Guessing from the distinct lack of reply that's a no then :bored:

This was posted this morning on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/brca10thoffroad/posts/499921953522916

[szymanski2oo1]

Ah thanks for the Facebook link, it's a bit vague if I'm reading it correctly, it doesn't answer anything about if you should pay or not if you received the email when at the same time the website says it's 'fully subscribed' , but I'm going to assume not anyway. Cheers for the help.

[Allan1875]

I have just been sent this link:

http://www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk/bwoc-reserve-list-2wd-4wd/

[Colin Kirkham]

I've just been told by a friend to look on here and have a read!
I stopped on the way back from jobs in the evening booking went live, entered,
And got a reply saying "event over subscribed" but a few hours later received a payment request so paid!
Apart from Christmas Day and Boxing I've worked long hours all over Christmas.

And now reading the list I'm 51st reserve in 2wd
And 4th in 4wd

And my payment will be returned in due course ?

No message or email from anyone telling me of any problems.

Really !! WTF!

[36racing]

Reserve #5.... Doh!

[Adam F]

You guys know this is nothing to do with the club right?

The booking side (and associated issues) are handled by the BRCA, not Silverstone.

[Citchn]

Yeah , silverstone are just the hosts , nothing to do with the organising of the meeting , we just supply an awesome venue and an amazing race track

[Colin Kirkham]

I support Silverstone club 110%, this unfortunately will put a grey cloud over the Silverstone club (by people who don't know them).
I do, and can honestly say the guys behind the scenes at Silverstone go above and beyond that extra mile to make there race meeting's the best they can possibly be.
There winter series is always fully/over booked, which says enough.
I'm not pointing a finger at anyone ! Especially not Silverstone !

But this really is a mess! Sorry if I offend anyone but it is.

As I received a payment request, thinking that I had a place?, I paid the request, and booked a hotel room to make sure I got it at the early booking prices.

Ah well....
I expect I'll turn up and glue up tyres for my friends who are racing.

[Lee1972]

I support Silverstone club 110%, this unfortunately will put a grey cloud over the Silverstone club (by people who don't know them).
I do, and can honestly say the guys behind the scenes at Silverstone go above and beyond that extra mile to make there race meeting's the best they can possibly be.
There winter series is always fully/over booked, which says enough.
I'm not pointing a finger at anyone ! Especially not Silverstone !

But this really is a mess! Sorry if I offend anyone but it is.

As I received a payment request, thinking that I had a place?, I paid the request, and booked a hotel room to make sure I got it at the early booking prices.

Ah well....
I expect I'll turn up and glue up tyres for my friends who are racing.

Me too, have paid for myself 2wd and my lad 2wd and 4wd, booked the hotel for two nights and have found we're both on the reserve list for 2wd. I had a feeling that I was on the reserve list however when I booked Callum in I wasn't given any indication that he hadn't got in.

[Lee1972]

Yeah , silverstone are just the hosts , nothing to do with the organising of the meeting , we just supply an awesome venue and an amazing race track

It is an awesome venue we were lucky to attend in 2013 and had a great day there! Not being critical of the BRCA but at the time booking in was done from memory via a website called central booking and was both transparent and easy to use.

[Adam F]

I am in the same boat myself, 70+ on the 2wd reserves list and all paid up.

Just wanted to make sure that people understand that this is not the clubs doing!

[Richard Lowe]

This was posted this morning on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/brca10thoffroad/posts/499921953522916

Who on earth wrote that Facebook post?! "The BWOC die to good publicity..." :confused:

I was more concerned with the lack of SSL on the entry form, as we've all just sent our name, address and phone number over an unencrypted session to a website we can't verify the identity of. What makes it worse is that anyone who wanted to capture traffic knew exactly when to listen because of the defined opening time for entries, making it easy to grab everything in one lump to go through at their leisure :(
It's the same on the BRCA membership renewal page, no SSL - although arguably less of a security issue given the spread out nature of people making submissions.

I really appreciate the effort the BRCA is making to embrace things like online entry to events rather than faffing around with cheques etc, but it feels a bit rushed/not ready at the moment.

[johnboy]

Easy answer is come race at last round of oople winter series.
You won't pay till get a place and entry is not like figuring out how to brake the enigma code like the brca website. :thumbsup:

[discostu]

You know what you lot need to get over it it the booking opened at 7 first come first serve you go on line you fill details in you pay your fee if you were in the first 130 you got a place if not you'll no doubt get a refund.

I'm looking forward to the meeting I'm in only raced there once about 3 year ago my biggest issue is should I buy or make a shock tower protector my hotel is booked and paid for happy days

I'll see the other 129 drivers at the meeting and hopefully beat as many as possible

Have fun all

I will

Stu

[simonrhart]

Easy answer is come race at last round of oople winter series.
You won't pay till get a place and entry is not like figuring out how to brake the enigma code like the brca website. :thumbsup:

Where is the last round?

[johnboy]

Where is the last round?

Chadderton in oldham

[Lee1972]

You know what you lot need to get over it it the booking opened at 7 first come first serve you go on line you fill details in you pay your fee if you were in the first 130 you got a place if not you'll no doubt get a refund.

I'm looking forward to the meeting I'm in only raced there once about 3 year ago my biggest issue is should I buy or make a shock tower protector my hotel is booked and paid for happy days

I'll see the other 129 drivers at the meeting and hopefully beat as many as possible

Have fun all

I will

Stu

Stu,
Not a very helpful answer. I probably like many others have entered for both classes and after having the entry accepted and paid for in full have gone and booked a hotel room for two nights to then later find that my son has been allocated a place for 4wd and is on the reserve list for 2wd.

I knew that I'd be on the reserve list as when I entered my details into the system it told me that the places had been filled. The last time we attended BWOC was in 2013 and booking in was done through central booking so instantly you could see who had entered and who was on the reserve list. This made the process transparent and more importantly you knew that you were in and then could arrange digs.

Lee

[Lee1972]

Where is the last round?

Come up Simon :thumbsup:

[tellor]

What a load of bullshit !!!

People booking in well before 7, very few national A finalists in the long 2wd reserve list.
Oversubscribed at 7.05.....even Justin Beiber tickets don't sell out this quick !!
First come come first served

Bullshit !

[discostu]

What a load of bullshit !!!

People booking in well before 7, very few national A finalists in the long 2wd reserve list.
Oversubscribed at 7.05.....even Justin Beiber tickets don't sell out this quick !!
First come come first served

Bullshit !

Really

[s22jgs]

What a load of bullshit !!!

People booking in well before 7, very few national A finalists in the long 2wd reserve list.
Oversubscribed at 7.05.....even Justin Beiber tickets don't sell out this quick !!
First come come first served

Bullshit !

what has national A finalists not being on the reserve list got to do with anything? There is no published list of confirmed entries yet - for all you know there could be no National A finalists who booked in in time.

[Team mad rat!]

Hi guys.

Just wondering if anyone had a list of the approved electrics (batteries and motor) please.

Cheers

[stuhurley]

http://www.brca.org/sections/eb/

[RudeTony]

I find it incredible that many listen to so much bull and actually believe it.
If you want to know facts then ask the right people.
I took on the PRO job to inform people of what is what and how things happen but I cannot entertain people assuming and causing a stir instead of quoting facts.

Things like the system crashed are utter rubbish.

Anyways, whos Justin whoever his called anyway!!!
Where did 7.05 come from?
And the list goes on.....

Ask sensible question then I will be more than happy to answer

[Adam F]

Aside from the odd troll, most people understand that the event is popular and so oversubscribed..

The communications (emails and requests for payment etc) have been a little confusing however, so think this has caused some frustration.

Can we request refunds now? No point in waiting to see if 70 plus people drop out!

[RudeTony]

Aside from the odd troll, most people understand that the event is popular and so oversubscribed..

The communications (emails and requests for payment etc) have been a little confusing however, so think this has caused some frustration.

Can we request refunds now? No point in waiting to see if 70 plus people drop out!

Hi Adam

70 doesn't sound good obviously!
We cannot do any transactions at the moment as PayPal randomly limited the account thinking we are a money laundering outfit.
Obviously refunds and so on will be given as soon as possible as competitors request to be deleted from the reserve list.
I would suggest staying on it for now.

The reserve list will be updated through the coming weeks and that can be found on the section website
www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk

[s22jgs]

Hi Tony

What is the format of each day?
2 x practice
4x qualie
1x final

[knighthawk]

BWOC Entry

Tony,

Just sent you a oOple and Facebook PM

Cheers
Derek

[Colin Kirkham]

Okay,
Now I'm starting to get upset !
Checked this morning I'm 3rd reserve in 4wd
And thinking yeah after paying out for entries in both 2wd, 4wd and a hotel !
I might just get an entry for my money.

This afternoon, I'm 4th reserve.

HOW ?? 😡

I feel very cheated, and at the point that there is no point to racing as a "hobbyist"

[Colin Kirkham]

Okay,
Now I'm starting to get upset !
Checked this morning I'm 3rd reserve in 4wd
And thinking yeah after paying out for entries in both 2wd, 4wd and a hotel !
I might just get an entry for my money.

This afternoon, I'm 4th reserve.

HOW ?? 😡

I feel very cheated, and at the point that there is no point to racing as a "hobbyist"

[RudeTony]

Hi Tony

What is the format of each day?
2 x practice
4x qualie
1x final

That is correct with 3 leg A Finals - just like the Nationals


Okay,
Now I'm starting to get upset !
Checked this morning I'm 3rd reserve in 4wd
And thinking yeah after paying out for entries in both 2wd, 4wd and a hotel !
I might just get an entry for my money.

This afternoon, I'm 4th reserve.

HOW ?? 😡

I feel very cheated, and at the point that there is no point to racing as a "hobbyist"

Colin
This is my mistake and I apologise.
I had an email well before the reserve list was printed and I misunderstood it. I now had to correct the reserve list by time of entry and this is now correct. Again I apologise, this is purely my error.
Fingers crossed you're in

[andy110m]

Hi,

I've just read this thread, I'll point out I'm a bystander because i don't want an entry but i know many who do and they all feel the booking in was, I'm sorry to say but, rigged, in favour of high profile racers. Its understandable because the elite always seem to get an entry in both classes whilst Joe Average struggles to get one.

My reason for posting is I recently experienced something similar and its annoying. If there is an agreed process, stick to it without exception.

So to end all the arguments, is it not possible to get a report from the booking in system, filter it to name and entry time, then post it. If DPA is an issue, then fine but have the data hard copy at all the summer nationals to prove its fair for all. And last point, if its not and some do get to book in early, be open about it and why. People will understand.

Don't mean to agree with anyone, or cause any offense. Just posting observations.

[liverpool]

Very well said

[RudeTony]

Hi,

I've just read this thread, I'll point out I'm a bystander because i don't want an entry but i know many who do and they all feel the booking in was, I'm sorry to say but, rigged, in favour of high profile racers. Its understandable because the elite always seem to get an entry in both classes whilst Joe Average struggles to get one.

My reason for posting is I recently experienced something similar and its annoying. If there is an agreed process, stick to it without exception.

So to end all the arguments, is it not possible to get a report from the booking in system, filter it to name and entry time, then post it. If DPA is an issue, then fine but have the data hard copy at all the summer nationals to prove its fair for all. And last point, if its not and some do get to book in early, be open about it and why. People will understand.

Don't mean to agree with anyone, or cause any offense. Just posting observations.


I feel peoples frustrations.
I can and I repeat what I told people before, all entries are in timed order. Down to the second not that the seconds made any difference.
The word 'rigged' is an insulting word but I understand you have to use some sort of word but I am part of that organisation that sees the entries so its sort of personal.
Any of you guys are more than welcome to do this PRO job and at this moment in time it feels I want to give it up. I have repeatedly stated its by time of entry. There is no one apart from cancellations that is NOT in the event and replaced as clearly you are suggesting.
I do not get a free hand in doing what I want.
If it was my meeting and you can all quote me on this, I would print the CSV file downloaded from the booking in system and say there you have it.
The BRCA doesn't allow this historically. You don't see National entries and so on. Its how its been for as long as I can remember. I would like to change this and it will be addressed at the appropriate committee meetings and decided upon by a group of people that actually care a lot for our sport.
The same way as we now have on-line booking in as before we never did. The same way that we now accept PayPal when before it was just cheques.
Meanwhile, I have to do what I am allowed to do AND PLEASE NOTE, that it doesn't include lies. What I have told you are facts

I hope that's good enough as I cannot at this stage do anymore for you all.

[Colin Kirkham]

Applogies accepted Tony, and thank you for your reply.

[Kelk]

Hi Tony,

To try and help you with future registrations it might be worth placing something on the booking form that the racer has to click an accept to in the T&C's stating that their name and time of entry will be published and by accepting entry then that is part of it. Thereby mitigating the responsibility for the BRCA as the person has consented.

As for publishing times, I appreciate the DPA is there so please be aware that should anyone request the data that is pertinent to them, and in most cases only pertinent to them, then there is a legal stipulation that it must be supplied by the data owner within 40 days.

[andy110m]

Hi Tony,

Not getting at you in anyway, just the process if anything.

As a constructive suggestion why don't you have a word with the onroad side and use the booking in system on the BRCA site. I do 12th nationals and it couldn't be simpler or any more transparent.

That would solve this problem, or at least stop it reoccurring, and make your life so much easier.

[RudeTony]

I am struggling to understand what the problem actually is and who you are all actually talking to to be assuming something is wrong.

There is nothing wrong with the booking in system. It has worked perfect in every way.
It produces the right information and can be uploaded straight into the BBK program as a CSV file and is very simple to use.
The error is mine in asking for instant payment. I should of asked for the payments afterwards - nothing more or less. I accept that was an error on my part. When it got to over 200 entries I put a stop to accepting payments but every entry has been received and some that didn't get a chance to pay have had requests to pay. If they don't pay, they get deleted. Simples the next person on reserve moves up. There is nothing complicated in that.
If competitors didn't book in early enough I cannot help that. Plenty of names with high status that didn't get in. And yes they have moaned at me - Lots too!! There is an argument without the top top drivers present it becomes more like a club meeting rather than the British Winter Open Championship and certainly doesn't have the stature that it clearly deserves.
For these reasons I am sure there will be changes in the future. How we accept entries in the future has to be looked at if its going to be this popular. Nothing was lost or anything like its been insinuated. I repeat the system itself is as right as can be.

Who we allow in the event is the questions you should all be asking.
Some things to think about.....
Maybe some of the National drivers will be on an invitation scenario. Maybe not.
Maybe all F1 drivers get an entry. Maybe not.
Maybe only top 3 only get invited. Maybe top 10. Maybe not
Maybe keep as it is - everyone would know next time for sure. Maybe not.
Maybe if a person books in for both classes they get priority, maybe not.
I can go on and on what is possible and what isn't. The fact is 250 individual entries ALL booked in fine through the system and ALL are logged in with the order they booked in.
Making statements like use another booking in system makes people think there is something wrong when in fact nothing is wrong.

I may be quoting out of turn here but as far as i can remember it's been the most successful initial entries to this event, EVER!! Somehow because obviously some competitors didn't get in, it's been turned on its head to already be some sort of disaster. Its laughable really.

I have full faith in the Silverstone Buggy Club will no doubt lay on a great track and they will no doubt make the meeting be a very successful one.

Next year it will be even bigger and I invite clubs that feel they have the capability to run it, to apply for it. A simple email to me to run the event is all that is needed. [email protected] as if you didn't know!

Meanwhile I will go back to the insultive emails, texts and rude comments that I have lived with over the Christmas period (yes I have plenty) and keep trying to do the PRO job that I took on.

I would be happy to answer any questions you have


Lastly for those that keep asking for the list to be posted as it came in with times!! I ask what is the point of that when clearly I could manipulate the times if I wanted to. Its a silly request and for that reason it probably will never be posted. The people that know me, know I speak truthfully and the people that wish to stir, will stir

Laters all, I have some work to do

[Robocop]

Have to say that I am not a top level national driver and been back to off road since a sabbatical doing the on road racing.
But I did what it said and booked in and got in as well as two of my mates,all paid and hotel booked.
Yes I know I won't be a Lee Martin or Neil cragg at this game but I do it for Fun.
I would like to have clubs near my door step that can put on these meetings each week my closet one is 1.5 hrs away at best.
But I am looking forwards to this by miles
Thanks to all who are involved because I don't think they get paid for it....

[nige0568]

I very rarely reply to any on-line forums as things often get taken out of context but I feel compelled to reply to this forum. From what I am led to believe Tony has taken on his role voluntarily for the love of the hobby, for him to receive insulting or derogatory messages is out of order and totally uncalled for. The vast majority of us compete at this sport for fun, there are a quite few who compete professionally, but the overriding reason for us doing what we do is for fun. I understand peoples' frustrations at not getting a place for this prestigious event but really are the insults and other messages directed at Tony really called for.

[2175shaun]

On BRCA website this morning......

http://www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk/2016-bwoc-entries-reserves-2wd4wd/

[RudeTony]

Updated list on the 10th section website

[James]

If anyone sees this, could I have a refund please, 67th reserve so not much chance I will be racing. Thankyou

[RudeTony]

The entry listing is changing all the time for this event so please keep a regular look out - catch up soon

www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk

[Lee1972]

Thinking of pulling out of the event and have a hotel room for 2 nights if anyone is interested.

[xtreme-rc]

hi,
have a family hotel room on the friday night, £30 if anybodys interested ?

[Colin Kirkham]

Can my name be removed from the list and ask for a refund please?
If anyone knows of the correct place to ask please let me know.
Cheers

[knighthawk]

Can my name be removed from the list and ask for a refund please?
If anyone knows of the correct place to ask please let me know.
Cheers

Email Tony at [email protected]
to be removed

[RudeTony]

Colin - I have done for you but please people email rather than messages as I really don't get on here that often - thanks all and see you most there - Tony E

[Zippy G]

Hi all
anyone looking for shock protecters for the BWOC, I will have some with me.

Unfortunately I won't be there on saturday, I'm only booked in for the sunday

Take a look here:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=939810#post939810

Thanks for looking

Sam

[Team mad rat!]

Do we need to provide out own shock protectors guys? Last time Silverstone provided people with them.

Many Thanks

[Ross]

Do we need to provide out own shock protectors guys? Last time Silverstone provided people with them.

Many Thanks

yes you do, how ever the club MAY have some for sale if you ask.

[discostu]

Do we need shock protectors if the shocks are behind the tower it seem silly to use a piece of plastic to protect the Astro from a piece of plastic.

Cheers in advanced

[wingers]

Shock protectors are only needed on the front where shocks tend to be on the front of the towers.
Rear shock protectors are nice to have but not 100% necessary.

Wingers

[discostu]

Shock protectors are only needed on the front where shocks tend to be on the front of the towers.
Rear shock protectors are nice to have but not 100% necessary.

Wingers


Sweet b44 and b5 ok then

[s22jgs]

ah man, i wasted time cutting some new ones tonight then lol

[RudeTony]

The club will require them to be fitted and will have some available at the meeting. - See you there :)

[birdy]

Can someone post the correct address, looking at the Silverstone website its not been updated for a while and don't fancy going to the wrong place :woot:

[2175shaun]

Can someone post the correct address, looking at the Silverstone website its not been updated for a while and don't fancy going to the wrong place :woot:

Gate 4, Pitsford Centre, Pitsford Road, Moulton, NN3 7QL

Enter via gate 4, over speed bumps, turn left at junction then first left follow road and enter first car parking area. Hall will be at the bottom past the stables. :thumbsup:

[Stickygeko]

ah man, i wasted time cutting some new ones tonight then lol


if youve any spare to fit the s12 i could do with one ;)

[Karting]

So what time do the doors open tomorrow morning, for those of us who can't get there tonight.

[knighthawk]

So what time do the doors open tomorrow morning, for those of us who can't get there tonight.

http://www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk/2016-bwoc-entries-reserves-2wd4wd/

Reading this link doors open at 7am

[Kelk]

I can see what time the doors open but is there an itenary for the day?

[moleman]

Hi!

Are there any live feed/results from this event?

Thanks!
/Morgan


EDIT:
Found it :)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sMaO-dTeG_k&feature=youtu.be

[Kelk]

Anyone know of the other finals are available and where?

[Zippy G]

Hi All
Just wanted to say a big thanks to ALL involved in making today happen.
Really enjoyable day.

I took a few pics, take a look:

https://pocketrocket.smugmug.com/2016-BWOC-Silverston/

Thanks Sam

[RudeTony]

In case you haven't seen it.....the full BWOC report is on the 10th section website
www.brca10thoffroad.co.uk

:)