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njc11
04-02-2009, 09:10 AM
Book in for February 15th straight to [email protected] ([email protected])

Then check the website for the list. ( www.bmrcc.talktalk.net (http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/) )

Cheers

Nick
:thumbsup:

Chrislong
04-02-2009, 09:31 AM
:D Always look forward to these.

njc11
05-02-2009, 09:21 AM
Back to the top!

Come on folks.. not one to be missed!

:thumbsup:

Jonesy
05-02-2009, 10:07 AM
After going so well at the last one I would be mad to miss this......

Woody or Rog, can you update my entry so I'm in both classes please?

Thanks

Jonesy

bigred5765
05-02-2009, 10:29 AM
yeah Matty's in,come on guys not long now get your entries in, got busy last time and you wouldn't want to miss out,

njc11
06-02-2009, 08:58 AM
Come on folks!

Richard Lowe
06-02-2009, 09:25 AM
Is the truck class just for 1:10 stadium trucks or will it be mixed with Slash's and other random shizz?

The race controller
06-02-2009, 09:50 AM
Is the truck class just for 1:10 stadium trucks or will it be mixed with Slash's and other random shizz?

Depends on the numbers.

....The Slash is one tenth.

telboy
06-02-2009, 10:03 AM
..:D..

njc11
06-02-2009, 03:08 PM
Proposed track..

http://www.cls.eclipse.co.uk/RCCars/Bury%20Track%2015th%20Feb%202009b.jpg


Does this look ok for everyone?

Stu
06-02-2009, 03:21 PM
Looks pretty fine to me.

bigred5765
06-02-2009, 03:22 PM
looks pretty cool to me,got our bald tyres ready,

matdodd
06-02-2009, 04:51 PM
Count me in for 2wd again :D

woOdy
07-02-2009, 09:49 AM
Sorry dood but it is too wide. You can only get the straight and 3 lanes in not 4.

njc11
07-02-2009, 10:27 AM
we'll sort it on the sat im sure... ;)

carter_213
08-02-2009, 08:10 PM
Numbers looking good? Ive booked in!

Is there any changes to doors opening? And are we pitting at 2 ends again or just the one?

See you Sunday!:D

madmax
08-02-2009, 08:27 PM
ive not raced at the bury indoors track, how do i bookin, what are the times and how do i get their.

bigred5765
08-02-2009, 08:48 PM
clicky (http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/)

Mossy
08-02-2009, 08:52 PM
The link doesnt seem to work.

Stu can you put me in for 4wd. Ta

Si

bigred5765
08-02-2009, 08:54 PM
working on and off site updates may be

The race controller
08-02-2009, 10:58 PM
Talktalk have been having trouble this weekend. (Still)

If they don't get it fixed I'll somehow get the list onto this forum.

E-mail works though.

njc11
09-02-2009, 09:21 AM
Talktalk have been having trouble this weekend. (Still)

If they don't get it fixed I'll somehow get the list onto this forum.

E-mail works though.

Tis working at the mo.. :thumbsup:

Book in for February 15th straight to [email protected] ([email protected])

Then check the website for the list. ( www.bmrcc.talktalk.net (http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/) )

Scouser
09-02-2009, 03:04 PM
Does anyone know whether the truck class is 1:10 scale only? If it is I will book in for trucks, if not (1:8 scale allowed) I will do 2wd buggy instead. Cheers :)

benknight13
10-02-2009, 10:23 AM
I email rogger and asked if there will be a class for 1.8th brushless he said depends one how many turn up if not they will have to mix and match a few but i hope there is a enough to race in a 1.8th class just as trucks are smaller i think they need about 6 people to run a class though.

thanks
ben

The race controller
10-02-2009, 10:32 AM
I email rogger and asked if there will be a class for 1.8th brushless he said depends one how many turn up if not they will have to mix and match a few but i hope there is a enough to race in a 1.8th class just as trucks are smaller i think they need about 6 people to run a class though.

thanks
ben


Matt Brown, Adrian Prince and JAmes Shanks are the only ones booked in so far. At this rate there wont be a separate heat.
and Ewen Tyson
http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/FEB%2015th.htm

Scouser
10-02-2009, 10:44 AM
Thanks mate, I will do the 2wd then. Cheers.:D

benknight13
10-02-2009, 12:43 PM
thanks rogger are any off they racing 1.8th brushless or just 1.10 trucks?
thanks
ben

njc11
10-02-2009, 04:40 PM
Not long now... book in to avoid disapointment! :thumbsup:

Stu
10-02-2009, 05:24 PM
Nick - what time is track building?

carter_213
10-02-2009, 06:38 PM
Sorry to ask again but when do doors open? Is its still 10 oclock or have you changed it??

The race controller
10-02-2009, 08:39 PM
thanks rogger are any off they racing 1.8th brushless or just 1.10 trucks?
thanks
ben
Not sure, I think they are all Slashes.

woOdy
10-02-2009, 08:39 PM
Sorry to ask again but when do doors open? Is its still 10 oclock or have you changed it??

Yes mate. Still 10 as I dont think there will be 90 again.

The race controller
10-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Yes mate. Still 10 as I dont think there will be 90 again.

AND We've got a new printer.

Danny McGee
10-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Yes mate. Still 10 as I dont think there will be 90 again.

How do i book in for 2wd for the next meeting?

Jonesy
10-02-2009, 09:33 PM
How do i book in for 2wd for the next meeting?


Danny if you're talking about this one on Sunday then send a PM to either Woody or The Race Controller (both posted on this thread) and they will sort for you I'm sure.

It's a fantastic venue mate, alot of open space and plenty of obstacles to keep you going!

Danny McGee
10-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Danny if you're talking about this one on Sunday then send a PM to either Woody or The Race Controller (both posted on this thread) and they will sort for you I'm sure.

It's a fantastic venue mate, alot of open space and plenty of obstacles to keep you going!

what times it open? what times it start? how much? tyres? postcode?

njc11
10-02-2009, 10:50 PM
what times it open? what times it start? how much? tyres? postcode?

Doors open at 10am.. £10 to race (but this also includes you into the raffle where you have the opportunity to win some car kits, last meet it was a B4 and a BMAX..) Tyres worn mini pins/spikes.. the more worn they get the better the grip i find! Postcode OL9 0LS Hunt Lane Radclyffe Athetic Center next to the school...

If your on the M60 you want to leave at Junc21 and get onto the main road heading to chadderton... its not far at all from the motorway.. you need to turn into Hunt lane, you shouldnt miss it as there is a new Bryants housing Development going up..

See you Sunday..

Cheers

Nick

Jonesy
10-02-2009, 10:55 PM
what times it open? what times it start? how much? tyres? postcode?



All information post above but really need to reiterate what is said. The balder the tyres the better, it's amazing how much grip is generated from 'slick' mini-pins!! It's an indoor athletics training facility for a school (effectively). Similar to Worksop where athletes can use their running spikes in there.

njc11
11-02-2009, 09:02 AM
Have you booked in yet!!?!?!??

The race controller
11-02-2009, 10:06 AM
Thanks mate, I will do the 2wd then. Cheers.:D
Are you going to book in then ???
I'd do it for you if I knew who you were.

The race controller
11-02-2009, 10:08 AM
what times it open? what times it start? how much? tyres? postcode?
All the info is on our website

Scouser
11-02-2009, 11:01 AM
How many trucks will be needed for their own heat? I notice there are four at the moment, if one more will make a heat I will change from 2wd to trucks.;)

woOdy
11-02-2009, 08:26 PM
I dont know, but I think this is going to be the last meeting? I have to really think about it but as other clubs just decide to put meetings on our dates that we have been organised for months. As this is our first year in indoors I dont want to take away drivers from other clubs. I would love to hold a meeting for you all every week a sI love seeing you all having fun! The next meeting is I think the Batley super cup and then the next is End of year finals. There are also alot of other meetings around the weekends so that why we chose them dates.
Please let me know your thoughts?
:thumbdown:

Chrislong
11-02-2009, 09:12 PM
Woody mate,
I'll choose Bury over the Supercup and the Indoor finals without needing much more than a second or two to think about it. But this is just my opinion, if there is only me and you racing then im sure you can't justify holding a meeting.

But here's a thought...... how about on the Saturday of the weekend of the Supercup??

DaveG28
11-02-2009, 09:34 PM
Woody, don't think you clash with indoor finals, aren't they on the 4th/5th? Yours is Easter Sunday the week after?

Things have ended up congested this year but sadly that's life, there are more clubs than weekends! This winter my racing has been in any given month: first Sunday Broxtowe, second Saturday/Sunday West Bridgford or one off's, third Sunday Bury, last Sunday Worksop! There's no more Sundays!

Maybe this is a chance to spend the summer working out plans to help as many clubs as possible next winter, or even outdoors in summer, with planning of how championships run. As a random example, you could have a championship where some dates clash with Batley, but some don't and as well as individual champions you could have a "champion of champions" (sorry, spent the day with marketing people!!), who would have combined points from his "home clubs" clashing meetings AND then none clashing meets at the other club, like an interclub thing!? This could be done with other clubs instead of course!

As long as the clubs cover their costs, I'm fine with Bury having 50 people and not 90, with the other 40 at Batley or similar! Don't give up though, Bury is one of the best tracks!

njc11
12-02-2009, 09:52 AM
I dont know, but I think this is going to be the last meeting? I have to really think about it but as other clubs just decide to put meetings on our dates that we have been organised for months. As this is our first year in indoors I dont want to take away drivers from other clubs. I would love to hold a meeting for you all every week a sI love seeing you all having fun! The next meeting is I think the Batley super cup and then the next is End of year finals. There are also alot of other meetings around the weekends so that why we chose them dates.
Please let me know your thoughts?
:thumbdown:

:o I had already thought of changing the march date to the 8th of march in this instance... simply so it doesnt clash with the Supercup? Then round 6 was rescheduled to the 12th April..?? Most people have been happy with that..

With all the good feed back we've been getting about this venue/meet its ridiculous to suggest there will be no more...

Worksop for example is a ritual... people will do that meeting and wait for the dates to be published, then plan there calender around that, this is why we made our dates NOT clash with Worksop... As i said with the comments people have made, Bury could become another ritual... in which case other clubs will plan around our dates... at the end of the day its up to the racer where they race... but i think Bury Indoors has a good future.. If other clubs choose to hold a meet on an already long published date thats up to them.. nowt we can do about it... This is why i have published dates for the 2009/2010 calender just so other clubs can see and hopefully make meets for another weekend?

Cheers

Nick
:thumbsup:

Answer-RC-Pete
12-02-2009, 10:25 AM
Im definately there but not sure if this 1/8th is going ahead hence my not booking in as I dont know what im running.

It looks like a chap who is not booked in as yet will run my 1/8th if there are no problems with that and I will run in 2wd..

bigred5765
12-02-2009, 11:33 AM
change of date is no problem,but don't just give up,that would be scandalous

njc11
12-02-2009, 12:14 PM
change of date is no problem,but don't just give up,that would be scandalous

I for one wont be giving up!! :thumbsup:

bigred5765
12-02-2009, 12:16 PM
not a dig at anyone, just sounded like woody has thrown in the towel,

Kopite
12-02-2009, 12:25 PM
i have to echo Chris's thoughts. I'd much rather go to Bury than the indoor finals!! :thumbsup:

DaveG28
12-02-2009, 12:30 PM
i have to echo Chris's thoughts. I'd much rather go to Bury than the indoor finals!! :thumbsup:

Still confused, I thought they didn't clash anyway!?

njc11
12-02-2009, 12:38 PM
Still confused, I thought they didn't clash anyway!?

They don't!! Thats why we moved the date to the 12th April! :thumbsup:

Chrislong
12-02-2009, 03:39 PM
Keep it, defo, even if it clash's with Batley. The NE regionals haven't been supported as religiously by the mass's, especially the far NE meets, and then Batley haven't had a single winter meeting yet this season and my personal opinion is that im suprised they're holding it and there indoor venue and event is not half as good as what Bury hold - and even if it didn't clash with Bury personally (no dig intended toward Batley) ive grown to dislike Batley indoors and it'll just be a weekend off.

Let it clash with Batley, take the risk, lets see what it brings. What do others think.

Stu/Nick, how about starting booking in for that event now - perhaps take paypal deposits of £1 so you know those that do are serious.

Cockerill
12-02-2009, 04:40 PM
I'm personally looking forward to Batley, will be nice to race on something different as both Worksop and Bury are pretty similar.

I also don't agree with clashes with clubs so local, especially not on Regional dates. I know it's not a BRCA series this time, but it does kind of set a precedent that you don't want a regional series, so why should the organiser's bother in future? I would be a massive shame to lose the Regional series.

njc11
12-02-2009, 04:50 PM
I'm personally looking forward to Batley, will be nice to race on something different as both Worksop and Bury are pretty similar.

I also don't agree with clashes with clubs so local, especially not on Regional dates. I know it's not a BRCA series this time, but it does kind of set a precedent that you don't want a regional series, so why should the organiser's bother in future? I would be a massive shame to lose the Regional series.

For indoor or outdoor mate?

With the uncertainty still of the Goshen outdoor track its been difficult.. hopefully Roger can answer this one?? As there was talk of Bury joining a few different regions for the summer period to get a good selection of tracks..

As this is our first year with the indoor venue and it has taken us all by supprise as to how popular its been :thumbsup: and would hope it will go from strength to strength.. why dont we organise some sort of interclub winter series for 2009/2010?!? Bury, Batley, York?!? and maybe others if they are interested. The dates which we published for the 2009/2010 calender were done so people can work round us as we are proving popular so dates dont clash, but as its early days im sure dates can be fine tuned?! as long as we dont clash with worksop im sure it could work?

Cheers

Nick

Medders
12-02-2009, 04:56 PM
the 8th march is a regional which I think tom is what Tom is saying

Cockerill
12-02-2009, 05:01 PM
I was implying about the regional on 8th March at Batley.

You mention having an interclub series, is that not a like the Regional series? The same Regional series that you are going to clash with, indicating your not bothered about it? :confused:

Northy
12-02-2009, 05:08 PM
why dont we organise some sort of interclub winter series for 2009/2010?!? Bury, Batley, York?!? and maybe others if they are interested.

Isn't that kind of like a regional series? We already have one of those in the NE.

Nick, you're a nice guy, but please can you ease off with the spamming 'book in for bury' all over oOple please? It's like spam, especially when it's in your pm box. :mad:

Ramming Bury down out throats is actually putting me off coming, and another two people have said the same to me today. Advertise it by all means, if people want to come they will.

The above is my opinion, and hope it doesn't piss you off.



Now with my NE reg rep hat on.....

The 8th of March is Batley NE regional.

G

DaveG28
12-02-2009, 05:24 PM
Keep it, defo, even if it clash's with Batley. The NE regionals haven't been supported as religiously by the mass's, especially the far NE meets, and then Batley haven't had a single winter meeting yet this season and my personal opinion is that im suprised they're holding it and there indoor venue and event is not half as good as what Bury hold - and even if it didn't clash with Bury personally (no dig intended toward Batley) ive grown to dislike Batley indoors and it'll just be a weekend off.

Let it clash with Batley, take the risk, lets see what it brings. What do others think.

Stu/Nick, how about starting booking in for that event now - perhaps take paypal deposits of £1 so you know those that do are serious.


Guys, ultimately Chris is right, noone can demand other clubs don't clash, there are more clubs than weekends. IF 2 meetings can be sustained (?) let them clash and let people choose. Remember, it's not really fair to ask people from the North East to have to come all the way to Manc if they want a race, and vice versa, let's keep local stuff where poss!!

Personally, I'll do the Supercup and cancel my March Bury entry, other people won't, but there's no way of separating them all so let's not moan at Batley arranging a clashing meeting, and the same if Bury do it! Try to avoid clashes but don't cancel events because of it!

I think arranging interclub is good, by all means do it as regionals if Northy etc want to, it may mean I can't as I'm in another region or maybe have heats for "outsiders" too, but seriously, it's in everyones interest to work together to make the hobby stronger yes?

Medders
12-02-2009, 05:29 PM
[quote=DaveG28;208315]Guys, ultimately Chris is tight,



Do you know something we don't??

jimmy
12-02-2009, 05:33 PM
Haha, that's amazing. :lol:

DaveG28
12-02-2009, 05:40 PM
Haha, that's amazing. :lol:

Haha, fu****g predictive typing Iphone :mad:

Sorry Chris!

Chrislong
12-02-2009, 07:37 PM
The fact we're having this conversation is good. The sport/hobby/addiction is doing well :) .

Stu
12-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Yeah - it's good that there will be both - and both will be well supported I'm sure.

woOdy
12-02-2009, 07:56 PM
I really didnt mean that its game over. I mean why should me, Dad and Nick take up alot of time and effort if people are going to other meetings. I have not thrown in the towel(as Carl says) and think if I would do that I would of done it along time ago. Like I said I would love to do every weekend for you all but that is not realistic.
These meetings take up most of my weekend and that means time away from my wife and Daughter. I just want it to be wasted.

Stu
12-02-2009, 08:13 PM
I just don't want it to be wasted.

No fear of that Stu, best winter club meetings I've ever been to so far.

njc11
12-02-2009, 08:21 PM
Isn't that kind of like a regional series? We already have one of those in the NE.

Nick, you're a nice guy, but please can you ease off with the spamming 'book in for bury' all over oOple please? It's like spam, especially when it's in your pm box. :mad:

Ramming Bury down out throats is actually putting me off coming, and another two people have said the same to me today. Advertise it by all means, if people want to come they will.

The above is my opinion, and hope it doesn't piss you off.



Now with my NE reg rep hat on.....

The 8th of March is Batley NE regional.

G

Thanks for that...If you didnt want to piss me off you coukd have said it in a different way :mad:

All over oople??? Its in the Bury thread and then in the Batley thread... its only in there as i have said we would change the date and ive booked in to support the Supercup!

Incidently, i hadnt seen a post from you for a while so sent you a pm and a few others who have been before just to let them know Bury is on this wknd, one person actually responded to that and was gratefull for me reminding him! Somebody else appreciated a reminder as well... not on this occasion but before at a previous meet..

Im lucky at my workplace i can keep sites like this open allday.. and keep upto date, i guess others dont.. which is why during the day i put the thread back to the top of the Bury list!

If you read what i have put about a series thats what i was implying, if Bury could hold a round or to... Somebody from Bury actually suggested this to you a while ago but you have never come back to them! This could be sorted for bothwinter and summer..

So Graham.... can we join the north east series please?

If the 8th March is your North East Regional...why dont you advertise abit better?? I have supported York and will continue to... I hadnt got a clue you had a regional on the 8th..

As woOdy said before.. we may aswell call it a day at Bury,make Feb the last one.. its too much myther trying to keep everyone happy...

Meant to add... by typing this it will be rammed in everyones faces again!! So sorry everyone! :mad::p

Stu
12-02-2009, 08:30 PM
It's very easy to get the wrong end of the stick with typed messages, they often read very harsh when they were not meant that way.

DaveG28
12-02-2009, 08:36 PM
Come on guys, let's all chill out eh!

Bury guys: the fact that while rearranging the March date you've accidently hit a regional date maybe suggests it really is difficult not to clash, and therefore not to think any the worse of the Batley guys!

Everyone's trying their best here, Nick definitely wasn't trying to clash, he even asked me the other week if I knew which March weekend would be best if they moved from the Supercup date! I suggested the 8th as 1st is Broxtowe, 22nd Worksop and 29th Worksop players one off. Sorry guys but I didn't know about the regional either! So this is probably partly my fault, for which I'm sorry!

Again though, look at that month, it's clash or don't run a meeting, so let's not take it personally when it clashes!!

jimarea51
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
Hey guys...

Sorry I won't be able to make it over to race this weekend:thumbdown:.... But i'm working....

I must admit that I've only managed to make it over to one of the events for various reasons, but thats said I really enjoyed it...(even though it has to be a record for me, 4 non finishes in qually!!!)...

The next time it doesn't clash with work then Ill defo be there:p

Don't give up the good work....

JIm:p

woOdy
12-02-2009, 08:50 PM
Isn't that kind of like a regional series? We already have one of those in the NE.

Nick, you're a nice guy, but please can you ease off with the spamming 'book in for bury' all over oOple please? It's like spam, especially when it's in your pm box. :mad:

Ramming Bury down out throats is actually putting me off coming, and another two people have said the same to me today. Advertise it by all means, if people want to come they will.

The above is my opinion, and hope it doesn't piss you off.



Now with my NE reg rep hat on.....

The 8th of March is Batley NE regional.

G

No disrespect N, but in the climate of clubs dying, WE at the bury club dont want to see it go! It has been apart of our lives for a very long time. Wouldnt you fight for what you love?
We have now got the best oppotunity which every club would love, and thats a new track. We just want the drivers to come and enjoy it.
Clashes are going to happen but we hoped that as there are little drivers around then we could all understand that we are fighting for the same thing.
We have spoke to all the regional reps in the area and offered our track for there services for any meeting(indoors and out). We had no reply for indoors and I have just had one for outdoors.
At the end of the day there are only so many drivers so if they go here or there then why should here or there run a meeting if everybody is else where?
Thats all we are trying to say, sorry.
PS. This is a Bury Metro thread so let talk all about Bury Metro.

woOdy
12-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Hey guys...

Sorry I won't be able to make it over to race this weekend:thumbdown:.... But i'm working....

I must admit that I've only managed to make it over to one of the events for various reasons, but thats said I really enjoyed it...(even though it has to be a record for me, 4 non finishes in qually!!!)...

The next time it doesn't clash with work then Ill defo be there:p

Don't give up the good work....

JIm:p

Thanks Jim. Respect.

njc11
12-02-2009, 08:52 PM
I was implying about the regional on 8th March at Batley.

You mention having an interclub series, is that not a like the Regional series? The same Regional series that you are going to clash with, indicating your not bothered about it? :confused:

Tom,

Just noticed this.. of course im bothered! I hadnt even got a clue a regional was on that weekend..? If i had known i wouldnt have even mentined that date! As i said in the other thread.. Bury club approached Northy to see if we could join and maybe run a regional meet for this season.. but we never heard anything back?

We want to join regions..so can you please consder us for the summer and next winter please!

I will prob do the regional at York on the 8th (i did the last one..) and may revert back to running a meet at Bury on the 12th.. we'll have to see what people want to do this sunday.. If numbers will be low because of the supercup then we wont run i guess... the hall costs a bomb to hire..

Cheers

Nick

woOdy
12-02-2009, 08:56 PM
I was implying about the regional on 8th March at Batley.

You mention having an interclub series, is that not a like the Regional series? The same Regional series that you are going to clash with, indicating your not bothered about it? :confused:

Sorry Tom:p where was you at the last regional?:lol: I couldnt resist.

Chrislong
12-02-2009, 09:03 PM
Sorry Tom:p where was you at the last regional?:lol: I couldnt resist.

Petit RC, but did he have a go at them for clashing? :confused::lol:

Northy
12-02-2009, 09:37 PM
Right, time to clear a few things up......

Nick, it was my opinion, am I not allowed that? As I said I was not trying to piss you off, just give you a heads up on what others have said to me - i.e. trying to help.


Indoor Regionals

The Bury venue was discussed at the CONSORTIUM meeting, and the CONSORTIUM decided that there were enough rounds without us visiting you. I'm not sure if you guys had run a meeting then (I don't think you had), so the CONSORTIUM were probably reluctant to give a somewhat 'unknown quantity' an important event. I hope you can understand that? :confused: As you know, I came across to race and look at your facility the other week so now I know (and a couple of others on the consortium) what it is like. Perhaps the decision will be different next time. So..... hopefully you see that who gets a meeting is not just up to me, I'm just the face that gets all the shit thrown at him. I'm sorry, perhaps after the meeting I should have said, thanks, but no thanks.......

The dates for our regionals have been published for some time, people who are doing the series have them noted. The individual clubs normally start a thread about their venue, rules, opening times, directions etc a few weeks before. This seems to work, no need to pimp them any more.


Woody, I respect what you are saying, I don't want to see any clubs fail, but as Nick says the hall costs money, you guys need to pay for it. I just want us to all play nice together. But you must understand as NE rep it was sort of my duty to point out the Regional. I'm sure Batley aren't doing too good at the moment (people or money wise), so it is surely in both clubs interests to make their meetings a success?

Nick, the regional on the 8th is at batley ;)


I said the the Worksop guys last summer that I thought they had too many rounds (MY opinion, and not the BRCA's, NE or anyone elses, I told Ralph to his face). My concern was fitting everything else in around them, and not pissing anyone else off. Then Bury comes along with a great new venue that they want to use with another large series. Once we fit in Regionals around them there isn't a lot of room left for other clubs to do something or people to have a life/family outside racing. :cry: We had exactly the same last year with the outdoor regionals. I had at least one club ask us to keep the number of WEEKENDS (not rounds;) ) to a minimum to allow more club racing as they were struggling for numbers.

Anyway, I've typed enough. If anyone doesn't like what I've typed feel free to pm me to chat, or I'll pm you my phone number, and I'll enjoy getting some more shit thrown at me...... :lol::lol::lol::lol:

G

Lee
12-02-2009, 10:15 PM
I'll save you the hassle here is G's mobile number

07951 274 378


Have fun

njc11
12-02-2009, 10:24 PM
Right, time to clear a few things up......

Nick, it was my opinion, am I not allowed that? As I said I was not trying to piss you off, just give you a heads up on what others have said to me - i.e. trying to help.


Indoor Regionals

The Bury venue was discussed at the CONSORTIUM meeting, and the CONSORTIUM decided that there were enough rounds without us visiting you. I'm not sure if you guys had run a meeting then (I don't think you had), so the CONSORTIUM were probably reluctant to give a somewhat 'unknown quantity' an important event. I hope you can understand that? :confused: As you know, I came across to race and look at your facility the other week so now I know (and a couple of others on the consortium) what it is like. Perhaps the decision will be different next time. So..... hopefully you see that who gets a meeting is not just up to me, I'm just the face that gets all the shit thrown at him. I'm sorry, perhaps after the meeting I should have said, thanks, but no thanks.......

The dates for our regionals have been published for some time, people who are doing the series have them noted. The individual clubs normally start a thread about their venue, rules, opening times, directions etc a few weeks before. This seems to work, no need to pimp them any more.


Woody, I respect what you are saying, I don't want to see any clubs fail, but as Nick says the hall costs money, you guys need to pay for it. I just want us to all play nice together. But you must understand as NE rep it was sort of my duty to point out the Regional. I'm sure Batley aren't doing too good at the moment (people or money wise), so it is surely in both clubs interests to make their meetings a success?

Nick, the regional on the 8th is at batley ;)


I said the the Worksop guys last summer that I thought they had too many rounds (MY opinion, and not the BRCA's, NE or anyone elses, I told Ralph to his face). My concern was fitting everything else in around them, and not pissing anyone else off. Then Bury comes along with a great new venue that they want to use with another large series. Once we fit in Regionals around them there isn't a lot of room left for other clubs to do something or people to have a life/family outside racing. :cry: We had exactly the same last year with the outdoor regionals. I had at least one club ask us to keep the number of WEEKENDS (not rounds;) ) to a minimum to allow more club racing as they were struggling for numbers.

Anyway, I've typed enough. If anyone doesn't like what I've typed feel free to pm me to chat, or I'll pm you my phone number, and I'll enjoy getting some more shit thrown at me...... :lol::lol::lol::lol:

G

All taken on board.. and see where your coming from, i just feel that your post was bit harsh with your words...

I have been out of the rc scene for about 15 years and got back into it July 2008.. I was so disapointed to see feeble turnouts at the outside venue so have been on the case to turn this around.. I found the indoor venue we have by chance when i went to visit another possible on my list, the chap i spoke to was the area manager and said i might have just the place.. this is where we are today..

The idea of the indoor venue was to encourage more racers locally which we have a fair amount.. get them back into racing and keep them interested over the winter ready for the outdoor season to begin and get numbers up for Goshen over the spring summer.. If people dont bother turning up when Roger does.. why bother? Hopefully the way things are now numbers will be up at Goshen.. and the club will go from strength to strength :D

Lets work together to keep all clubs alive and lets join together for a good regional series (indoor 2009/2010)

WHat we as club decided at a meeting at the end of last summer.. was to calender date club meets and concentrate on regionals.. Bury would join a few different regions..

Incidently how come nobody let the club know about the consortiums decision...

Like i said above pencil us in for 2009/2010 indoor series.. how about us joining in for the summer series?

Cheers

Nick

Northy
12-02-2009, 10:32 PM
All taken on board.. and see where your coming from, i just feel that your post was bit harsh with your words...

Incidently how come nobody let the club know about the consortiums decision...

Like i said above pencil us in for 2009/2010 indoor series.. how about us joining in for the summer series?

Cheers

Nick

No problem, it was not meant to be harsh, it was meant as a heads up - people tell me stuff sometimes instead of who they should..... :( again, I end up been the bad guy :cry: **EDIT** plus it was typed just after a shit drive home in the snow :(

As I said, that was probably my fault, but we'd just had a small child, so time was tight for me.

Talk to Woody about your last point ;)

G

Jonesy
12-02-2009, 11:14 PM
I'll save you the hassle here is G's mobile number

07951 274 378


Have fun



Ooooooo you bitch Farrer!!!! :p

Richard Lowe
12-02-2009, 11:45 PM
This is a bit OT, but does anyone else feel we have too many larger meetings these days? I honestly can't remember the last time I did a Sunday club meeting, it's either a regional, national, worksop, indoor finals ect ect - or thats the way it seems. Bigger meetings are fun but it's getting a bit much recently, we need to move back to getting more relaxed club racing in!

Thing is I get so burned out by all the time/effort I put into larger meetings when I do get the chance to do a club day I'm wanting a weekend off! I'd like to show my support for both clubs running this Sunday, it's a little frustrating I can only run at one :(

Anyway weekly rant over, back to Bury ;)

Cockerill
13-02-2009, 01:50 AM
Nick: As far as I'm aware (I may be wrong) the potential of the Bury indoor venue was realised after the 'Regional' dates were announced, therefore it was too late to include you in any series. Hopefully the Bury venue will be part of the indoor series next year. I also hope that the Bury outdoor venue will be able to host a NE Regional in summer. I'd also like a National there again, but that’s my opinion.

Stu: As I'm living in Preston as a student, 140 miles each way is a bit far to travel for a Regional, although looking at the track I wish I was there. At least I had fun at the Southport GP :thumbsup:

Chris: As far as I'm aware there was no NE 'Regional' event taking place the same weekend as the Petit Race, not that I live in NE region anymore. Also, events at other ends of the country are inevitable and not really 'clashes' :p Although the JC 'Clash' did clash with a NE Regional, how inconsiderate :p

My thoughts are that I would like every club to be able to run week-in-week-out with high numbers, but in reality that can't happen, so I would prefer each club to be able to host a select number of events to allow each club a good couple of club days.

Spencer Mulcahy
13-02-2009, 10:30 AM
Can Woody Rog or Nick confirm if I am booked in for Sunday I sent an e-mail at the start of the week cheers.:D

njc11
13-02-2009, 10:40 AM
Can Woody Rog or Nick confirm if I am booked in for Sunday I sent an e-mail at the start of the week cheers.:D

Yep your booked in mate.. :D

http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/FEB%2015th.htm

The race controller
13-02-2009, 05:39 PM
Can Woody Rog or Nick confirm if I am booked in for Sunday I sent an e-mail at the start of the week cheers.:D

As I get the e-mails for booking in I update the list on our website. If anybody is having trouble reading that list then they should tell me and can come to other arrangements.

Stu
13-02-2009, 05:52 PM
62 so far - looks like another great meeting.

I can't come over for track building this time - other stuff on tomorrow :blush:

I promise I'll stay till the end of packing up on Sunday however - ;)

Pete - we'll go for a pint after racing - my round.

woOdy
13-02-2009, 07:58 PM
75 cars racing up to now and I have just sent Dad a few more to book in. WOW. Thank you very much guys. I was really doubtfull for this weekend due to other clubs racing but I would like to Thanks you all very much.

woOdy
13-02-2009, 08:03 PM
make that 84.:o

njc11
13-02-2009, 08:41 PM
62 so far - looks like another great meeting.

I can't come over for track building this time - other stuff on tomorrow :blush:

I promise I'll stay till the end of packing up on Sunday however - ;)

Pete - we'll go for a pint after racing - my round. you get chance

Stu,

No probs mate.. cheers for letting us know!

If anyone wants to come and help set up tomorrow we will be there from 2.30pm... usually you will get chance for a quick blast once we're done..

woOdy... 84... another awesome turnout..may get a few more on the day! :D it makes all the hard work worthwhile :D

Cheers

Nick
:thumbsup:

Jonesy
13-02-2009, 09:28 PM
75 cars racing up to now and I have just sent Dad a few more to book in. WOW. Thank you very much guys. I was really doubtfull for this weekend due to other clubs racing but I would like to Thanks you all very much.

make that 84.:o



Where do all these people keep coming from???

Thanks for letting Moss in as well :-( I've already been on the phone thanking him for not giving me another chance to shine!!! :lol::lol:

P_B
13-02-2009, 09:35 PM
Pete - we'll go for a pint after racing - my round.

Doh, will be around for track building but not sure about racing yet - Valentines day, possible Karmann Ghia viewing and going away on the Monday all conspiring against me at present...

njc11
13-02-2009, 10:11 PM
Doh, will be around for track building but not sure about racing yet - Valentines day, possible Karmann Ghia viewing and going away on the Monday all conspiring against me at present...

Karmann Ghia! :o nice! any pics?

See you tomorrow :thumbsup:

Chrislong
13-02-2009, 11:12 PM
Karmann Ghia! :o nice! any pics?

See you tomorrow :thumbsup:

Just what I was going to say!

Jez
14-02-2009, 12:20 AM
can you please book jessica in -4wd 885.many thanks jez.no message nick???

woOdy
14-02-2009, 11:05 AM
Sorry Dan Greenwood. I told you there wouldnt be 90 cars racing this time. Its now 91! Whats going on? You might have to go early to make your appointment?

Thansk very much everybody:lol:

Spencer Mulcahy
14-02-2009, 11:58 AM
You have created a monster Stu, sorry I cant be at the track building as I am on call till 9.30 tonight.

jimmy
14-02-2009, 03:40 PM
well this is balls, I can't find my receiver or transponder - had them at the petit and remember taking them out of the borrowed car I was running - no idea what I did with them then tho :(
I've spent ages looking and just can't find them :cry:

Dhami1
14-02-2009, 03:46 PM
hi all.. this is just a last min thing. me and a few friends are thinking of racing 2wd for the first time at a big meeting. We are travelling far from bham.. i have a few questions;

so could we book in on the day?
If we decide to come;

what time should we get there?
do we need to bring tables/chairs?
is there power supply?
Whats the exact address with post code
What time do you think racing will finish?

thanks
gurdy

Jonesy
14-02-2009, 05:15 PM
hi all.. this is just a last min thing. me and a few friends are thinking of racing 2wd for the first time at a big meeting. We are travelling far from bham.. i have a few questions;

so could we book in on the day?
If we decide to come;

what time should we get there?
do we need to bring tables/chairs?
is there power supply?
Whats the exact address with post code
What time do you think racing will finish?

thanks
gurdy


Hi gurdy,

I can give answers based on previous rounds but I'm not a club official...

Booking in the day is one I wouldn't like to say, there is already 91 :D booked in so that would have to be to WoOdy and Rog and Nick.

You will need your own tables and chairs and mains power is available, just bring an extension.

The address and postcode will either me on a previous thread or the clubs website which is mentioned in this thread, you can't miss it with about 5 mins of searching.

Last time it was a late one and we left about 7:00pm. Hopefully this time won't be as late as WoOdy was trying to stress to people the importance of keeping the meeting moving. The computer through qulaifying is usually set on a specific time between heats. There is usually sufficeient time.

Hope this helps??

Jonesy
14-02-2009, 05:19 PM
Don't suppose there's a heat list knocking around for tomorrow is there as yet??

Answer-RC-Pete
14-02-2009, 05:54 PM
Finally got round to booking in so +1 now!

What was the maximum so far?

Dhami1
14-02-2009, 06:00 PM
great stuff.. email has been sent for entry, just wait n see i guess.

thanks
gurdy

DaveG28
14-02-2009, 06:09 PM
well this is balls, I can't find my receiver or transponder - had them at the petit and remember taking them out of the borrowed car I was running - no idea what I did with them then tho :(
I've spent ages looking and just can't find them :cry:

What do you run Jimmy, I have a spare futaba receiver?

jimmy
14-02-2009, 06:25 PM
Sanwa 2.4ghz stuff :( Ive got a spare PT from vickys car but not got a receiver.. it's a bugger cos I don't know where on earth they can be! it was a month ago when I last saw them.:cry:

Stu
14-02-2009, 08:39 PM
Doh, will be around for track building but not sure about racing yet - Valentines day, possible Karmann Ghia viewing and going away on the Monday all conspiring against me at present...

Pete, Karmann Ghia, really - you NEED to keep us up to speed on that.

You need to see my new battle-bus - you will approve.

It's not another Dagenham Dustbin (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dagenham%20dustbin) - ;)

Answer-RC-Pete
14-02-2009, 09:09 PM
Anyone know if Jez is there tommorow?.. Not an inch of servo tape in the house!

You found your rx Jimmy? Im sure we are far enough away in the heats, welcome to borrow tx and rx if you can be arsed swapping them over..

paulc
14-02-2009, 09:11 PM
yes jez is there :thumbsup:

quincey
14-02-2009, 09:17 PM
daft question but does it start at 10 am like last time?

jimmy
14-02-2009, 09:25 PM
Anyone know if Jez is there tommorow?.. Not an inch of servo tape in the house!

You found your rx Jimmy? Im sure we are far enough away in the heats, welcome to borrow tx and rx if you can be arsed swapping them over..

Thanks Pete - I think I know where I have another receiver now, it's in one of two cars somewhere with a broken case but it still works I think :( my good one and my pt have vanished! poo
On the plus side tho, I do have some servo tape that I'll bring - both 3m clear stuff and some big roll stuff.

If anyones got spare capacity for a lil one on their 12v supply give me a shout :lol: I've only been racing for 6 years now - not had the time to invest in one yet :drool:

P_B
14-02-2009, 09:42 PM
Pete, Karmann Ghia, really - you NEED to keep us up to speed on that.

Sadly it's not for me (can't afford the asking price), going early doors with a mate to make sure he views with head as well as heart. This one is ace on paper though, full resto '56 lowlight with Porsche brakes, 2 ltr+ motor etc.

Oh, and the ladyfriend has booked Sunday night in addition to Monday and Tuesday as a 'Valentines treat' so there's very little chance I'll even get chance to pop in and say howdy now, let alone race. Some treat!

Look forward to seeing your new wheels, whatever they may be. Have fun tomorrow, I've already given the track a brief test...

DaveG28
14-02-2009, 10:11 PM
Is there power or do we need to bring 12v batteries?

jimmy
14-02-2009, 10:15 PM
There's mains apparently if you have an extension lead

Stu
14-02-2009, 11:04 PM
Look forward to seeing your new wheels, whatever they may be. ..

They are not as nice as the MK2 GTI, but as far as practical wheels go they are nice.

Jez
15-02-2009, 01:01 AM
Anyone know if Jez is there tommorow?.. Not an inch of servo tape in the house!

You found your rx Jimmy? Im sure we are far enough away in the heats, welcome to borrow tx and rx if you can be arsed swapping them over..all ready to go.ps whats yours is mine and whats mine is my own.see you in 9 hrs.ta jez.

njc11
15-02-2009, 07:00 AM
Hi gurdy,

I can give answers based on previous rounds but I'm not a club official...

Booking in the day is one I wouldn't like to say, there is already 91 :D booked in so that would have to be to WoOdy and Rog and Nick.

You will need your own tables and chairs and mains power is available, just bring an extension.

The address and postcode will either me on a previous thread or the clubs website which is mentioned in this thread, you can't miss it with about 5 mins of searching.

Last time it was a late one and we left about 7:00pm. Hopefully this time won't be as late as WoOdy was trying to stress to people the importance of keeping the meeting moving. The computer through qulaifying is usually set on a specific time between heats. There is usually sufficeient time.

Hope this helps??

Just in case here you go..

Radclyffe Athletic Center, Hunt Lane, Chadderton, OL9 0LS.. Leave Motorwat M60 Junc 21 and follow signs to Chadderton, its roughly 5 mins from the motorway.. You'll see a new Bryants Housing Development going up on a corner.. turn here this is Hunt Lane an you will see the entrance a little further down on your left!

Doors open at 10, racing from 11... last time Roger had a nightmare as the printer decided to pack up and put is back 1.5hrs :thumbdown: We have a new one now though so racing will start at 11 if not before...

Cheers

Nick

njc11
15-02-2009, 09:47 PM
Just a quick thankyou to everyone came today :thumbsup:

115+ i think we had in the end, anpther amazing turn out!

Hope everyone enjoyed the day :D:D

The next meeting will be running as planned March 15th BUT we will be starting much earlier simply because of the numbers we are getting.

I would like to say doors will be open at 8am.. racing to start at 9/9.30.

Roger/woOdy will be im sure confirming this...

Thanks again to everyone for coming, and the much appreciated crowd who help set up and clear away (u know who you are!) and of course to Roger for running the meet! :thumbsup:

Welldone to the winners of the BMAX and B4!

Cheers
Nick

bigred5765
15-02-2009, 09:51 PM
awsome days racing, this place just seems to get better every time we race there, A MASSIVE well done guys,loved the track layout today as well,

jimmy
15-02-2009, 10:00 PM
yeah was good, my first time there and was pleased with the track after the corner table was removed. Bit gutted that I missed my final, i just wasn't paying attention I guess :cry:

bigred5765
15-02-2009, 10:08 PM
lol@jimmy 4.33 seconds for your outlap is a bit dodgy lmao:)but i suppose you could blame it on us lot for keeping you busy talking.

Matt Alcock
15-02-2009, 10:11 PM
had a really good days racing and enjoyed the track.

Cheers all.

DaveG28
15-02-2009, 10:17 PM
Good day today again guys, great work! Would deffo go for an earlier start next time though, was a shame to see so many people miss the finals (not all by accident like Jimmy!!).

Also, whoever was marshalling the 4wd B by the table top, forgot to ask what had disconnected on my car (blue and red Cat), can you let me know if it was the switch, or a battery connector?

qatmix
15-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Enjoyed it today. Despite my few crashes :blush:

opening early will be good :) I had to get back for the family

Chrislong
15-02-2009, 10:21 PM
Really good track, was one of the few tracks I could race on. Well done, I love a track like that.

Can't wait for the next one. :D Good call on doors open early.

Jonesy
15-02-2009, 10:22 PM
Another cracking track from Bury although getting in as late as I did was not good! Earlier start would be great next time please...??

Ended up 5th in 2wd and 2nd in 4wd and really enjoyed the racing overall.

Great to see a Cat 1, 2, 3 in the 4wd 'A' final :p

madmax
15-02-2009, 10:32 PM
it was a exelent days racing bar braking my car in the final. job well done guys

woOdy
15-02-2009, 11:17 PM
I thank you all for coming and would love to see u all next time? We can only get better as time goes on. We didnt even dream of the numbers we have had over the last few meetings so thats why its 10 oclock doors open. I think now as there are all you lot wanting to race with us then we will open early. We are hear for you all to enjoy the racing and if thats a early start then thats what we will do.
As they say, if you build it they will come.
I will tell you the truth now, as other clubs where running I thought I should not run the same day as those due to drivers wanting to race there! How wrong was I! I was expecting about 40 ish today and if I could I would of shuck everybodies hand today. Today ment more to me than you think. I am still abit mixed about the date we have clashing with Batley Supercup so you all need to let me know. If we have more than 40 then we would be happy.
Let me know you thoughts please?

MikePimlott
15-02-2009, 11:28 PM
Excellent meeting again.
An early start i have to agree would be alot better. having to leave early for the family is a bit of a stinker.
Thanks all involved, good track well run :thumbsup:

The race controller
15-02-2009, 11:29 PM
Just a quick thankyou to everyone came today :thumbsup:

115+ i think we had in the end, anpther amazing turn out!

Hope everyone enjoyed the day :D:D

The next meeting will be running as planned March 15th BUT we will be starting much earlier simply because of the numbers we are getting.

I would like to say doors will be open at 8am.. racing to start at 9/9.30.

Roger/woOdy will be im sure confirming this...

Thanks again to everyone for coming, and the much appreciated crowd who help set up and clear away (u know who you are!) and of course to Roger for running the meet! :thumbsup:

Welldone to the winners of the BMAX and B4!

Cheers
Nick



No, Nick has it wrong.
We don't expect as many next meeting so it will be 10 o'clock as usual.
And as far as the 115 ??? I think he thought there were ten in a heat.
(Number ten transponder should be fixed for the next one)

Great day though, Thanks, shame about the lateness. My fault. I should have made it only three rounds and finals. or perhaps give up the practice time ???

Chrislong
16-02-2009, 09:49 AM
Woody, I'll be there for the next one rather than Supercup. If Bury don't run, im still not going to Supercup. :lol:

How about opening your booking in for it now, see what it brings?

jimmy
16-02-2009, 10:11 AM
lol, showing your support there Chris! - perhaps keep your hatered of Batley quiet? :lol:

Jamie B4
16-02-2009, 10:18 AM
Woody totally agree with Chris

Can't see the point in travelling a further distance when this is as good as it gets - you guys have a very good understanding and if there is anything on the track that is a bit dodgy like the corner on to the straight - you simply take it out

Will defo be at the next one, looking forward to it.

Get a list up asap and get everyone to book in early to get numbers

Jonesy
16-02-2009, 11:02 AM
Woody totally agree with Chris

Can't see the point in travelling a further distance when this is as good as it gets - you guys have a very good understanding and if there is anything on the track that is a bit dodgy like the corner on to the straight - you simply take it out

Will defo be at the next one, looking forward to it.

Get a list up asap and get everyone to book in early to get numbers


Woody, totally agree with Jamie on this. I'm at the next one, already looking forward to it. 27 days and counting............ :D

ryan_93
16-02-2009, 11:13 AM
had another great day yesterday, thanks to all involved, i will deffo be at the next one.

Matt Alcock
16-02-2009, 12:18 PM
No, Nick has it wrong.
We don't expect as many next meeting so it will be 10 o'clock as usual.
And as far as the 115 ??? I think he thought there were ten in a heat.
(Number ten transponder should be fixed for the next one)

Great day though, Thanks, shame about the lateness. My fault. I should have made it only three rounds and finals. or perhaps give up the practice time ???


i really liked the amount of run time we got yesterday!!!
Thats the only thing that put me off doing a bit of electric after coming over from the rally cross. But i got almost the same track time yesterday as i would doing the rallycross. Was well pleased.

Please dont drop rounds or practice, a earlier start would be better.

Just my thoughts though.

Any one agree?

And again awesome meeting!!!

cheers

turbo_brick
16-02-2009, 12:46 PM
With regards to start times, I can only make it because it starts later, it's a 2 hour+ drive each way for me and after finishing work about 4.30am I still only get 3 hours max in the house for a 10am start. I didn't get home until after 9pm but like I said earlier start I wouldn't be able to attend at all.

Chrislong
16-02-2009, 01:52 PM
lol, showing your support there Chris! - perhaps keep your hatered of Batley quiet? :lol:

I don't hate Batley :lol::lol:, but yeh I want to get Bury like the good ole' days of having a huge following. Its just then the catchment area was smaller so it was week after week, now it seems to matter what clashes more as many travel a long way for it and so it isn;t week after week, yet.

Infact thinking about it, we used to race on about 4 days per week at various local clubs, and I recall Leigh getting 8 heats regular and being able to race from 7pm through to 12pm on a Friday night. How was this possible? I know Roger had big involvment in this durings its prime too. I wonder if this is something for Bury????? Perhaps its a bad idea, but i thought id air it.

danDanEFC
16-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Thanks for a great, if a bit long, day!

cAptainslow
16-02-2009, 03:15 PM
I havent raced for around 15 years (i discovered beer at that point!:wtf:) but after coming down and watching the racing yesterday I have to give it another go! So ive just ordered a Cat and im gonna give it some stick! I was involved at Leigh years ago and it was always busy, if Bury can keep up the quality tracks and turn outs like yesterday then it would be great, well done fellas!
So if it means anything, im another number?!?! ...(well give me 12 months to build the thing!)

Ill be the one with the cat on its roof! See you soon.

quincey
16-02-2009, 06:51 PM
again thanks to woody and crew for another fantastic day's racing.
shame i bust my losi in the 1st round so had to do the rest of the day with my d4 which wasnt set up at all.
the truck race was the best indoor's racing ive had in a long time and i even did nearly the same amount of laps with my slash then i did with my d4!

Dhami1
17-02-2009, 05:38 PM
just like to say thank you for a good meeting. We came all the way up from bham, and was well worth the trip. woody had done a great job on the track. was very fun to drive. this is the first 'big' elec meeting ive been too.. since i normally go 1/8gas, and i'll be back for more!

thanks to all involved..especially to woody

cheers
gurdy

Matt Alcock
18-02-2009, 08:39 PM
are the restults posted anywhere?

cheers