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Kecky
02-04-2009, 11:37 AM
X6 & X6² Extra's on REDRC.....
YoungChazz
02-04-2009, 04:48 PM
Dirtz Dialed Partz 023 Transmission Brace works best with the X - 6 Squared and X - 60. If you have ever wondered what the two counter-sunk holes in the battery strap are for, now you know.
I don't know if you could put a tranny brace on an original X - 6 or not -- we've never looked at it. With our standard #1222 battery strap, you would have to see where the aluminum bracket falls on the strap to know if it would fit. But after that, the original #1222 is held rather loosely onto three posts with body clips and would not provide the secure mount the tranny brace needs.
If you have one of the aftermarket CF straps, and if it is securely screwed down on secure posts, and if the aluminum bracket winds up in a place where you can drill and counter-sink the two holes, then the DDP023 will be a great addition to your original X - 6, and we reccommend it.
Somebody surely will ask, so I'll answer: It only fits the 4-Gear.
Wacker 2
02-04-2009, 05:46 PM
what benefit does this new tranny brace give??? Why is it needed??? I have one of the blue alloy motor plate T braces so how much flex can there still be?? and if there is still alot of flex then isn't a chassis design floor that should have been rectified in the X6 squared chassis???
Darren Boyle
02-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Not every option that we release is to cure a "flaw", they are for tuning, optional adjustments if you like.
Take the axles you have already mentioned elsewhere, they are for use on tracks with more bumps where more droop is required, on flat(er) tracks they are not needed.
This tranny brace is used when we feel a "stiif" set up is required when grip is already good, when grip is low, we require the flex the chassis naturally generates and we run without the brace. You can take rigidity on or off with an additional brace you canot if it is permanantly added to the chassis with ribbing etc, if you did remove extra ribbing you cannot simply add it back on whereas with a screw on brace you can add or subtract to your own tuning desire.
We develop and design these parts to help optimize our buggy for all possabilities, some parts get used more than others in certain parts of the globe. Take the E Speed camber links for instance, we use them here in the UK on almost every surface and set up we run, yet in the states on the slick dirt they rarely use them at all. But my point is they are there "IF" they are needed and can be left out or removed if not, not a flaw if that camber position is not on the kit as standard just an extra two positions created for our high grip style european grass/astro tracks
The E Speed motor brace is for up and down movement of the motor plate, this DDP Chassis brace is for flex from front to rear of the chassis, two totally different things.....
Body Paint
02-04-2009, 08:32 PM
I guess it is does a similar thing to changing the chassis from plastic to graphite on a B4, but with much less hassle.
I love the fact that the X-6 mods are just fine tuning tweaks, the car straight out of the box works fantastically well, we have several X-6 and X-6^2 at my local club and they range from box stock to fully hopped up and any one of them is capable of winning the A
Spencer Mulcahy
03-04-2009, 01:57 PM
What is that spur gear on Brians car in the pics cheers.
super__dan
03-04-2009, 02:53 PM
Good question!
Kecky
03-04-2009, 03:03 PM
It could be an Xray Off-Set Spur Gear ;)
MHeadling
03-04-2009, 03:38 PM
Could it be a RW one dyed black?
YoungChazz
03-04-2009, 05:25 PM
Brian is an amazing guy. When you remember that Brian is one of the few full-time professionals with no other job, you'll understand that nothing, and I do mean nothing on his cars is dead stock. Brian polishes, files, sands, Dremels, does something to every single part on his cars. And, as is well-known, he uses parts from everywhere and everything. When Brian can't find a part someplace that does what he wants, he makes his own.
This goes for Ellis too, although Big E holds a full-time job.
We love it, because both Brian and Ellis keep us out in front of the cutting edge and produces lots of cool stuph. You can just bolt on the best of their thinking.
So, to answer the question, I have no idea what spur gear it is, but likely something from X Ray.
CCristo
03-04-2009, 07:36 PM
It's an Xray spur with the slipper pads glued onto it.
I had a look over dirtz car at the clash, i think you can safely say he's talented with a dremel! Pretty sure the spur gears an xray one from when he raced touring cars i think he said.
rob84
03-04-2009, 08:56 PM
would it still work with the pads glued to it as there is not much to glue it to.
Darren Boyle
03-04-2009, 10:15 PM
My question then is ............. why?
Graeme
04-04-2009, 02:13 PM
My guess would be reduced rotating weight - can't see any other reason.
These X Factory cars are getting rather tempting......
Graeme
derek5
04-04-2009, 02:53 PM
Hi Darren, i'm just check in www.dms-racing.com and cannot find the DDP023 yet....
Mike Hudson
04-04-2009, 02:58 PM
I don't think they don't have them in stock yet ;) still on their way from america I think ;) ring up dms and they should be able to let you know what the deal is with them
derek5
04-04-2009, 03:02 PM
I don't think they don't have them in stock yet ;) still on their way from america I think ;)
i see~ thanks!
super__dan
04-04-2009, 04:03 PM
Couple of pics of mine.
I particularly like it as it holds the motor wires down and helps keep them tidy :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/super__dan/DSCF0986.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/super__dan/DSCF0987.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/super__dan/DSCF0988.jpg
vinny20
04-04-2009, 05:04 PM
NICE job dan
MHeadling
04-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Dan is that a big bit of lead covered in gaffa tape under your servo?? have you got any lead under the speedo??
super__dan
04-04-2009, 06:57 PM
Mark - Yes, it's some flat lead plate Tom got me, cut to the shape of the servo bay, not sure what thickness it is (think it's roofing lead) works out at 65g. Covered in black gaffa tape to look nicer.
Have same lead plate under speedo which is 40g, no gaffa tape on that as the double sided tape doesn't stick well to it (and you can't see it anyway).
Lastly I have a 10g lead block (heatshrunk to look nice) that I sometimes run on the bulkhead if I feel I need it.
So 105g - 115g is my usual weight to add.
Darren Boyle
04-04-2009, 08:25 PM
Hi Darren, i'm just check in www.dms-racing.com (http://www.dms-racing.com) and cannot find the DDP023 yet....
Not just yet, they will be added to both the DMS site and X-Factory UK in the next few days with pricing and expected arrival (which will be in the coming few days anyhow)
CCristo
05-04-2009, 10:25 AM
At the Clash Brain ran 64 pitch gears, so that is one reason for the XRay spur. The one pictured looks like 48 pitch. While I don't know the exact reason, I would guess that the narrow gears allow him to off set his motor plate slightly more than the stock gears.
Oh, BTW Nice brace! :)
Speedypenguin
10-04-2009, 07:26 PM
At the Clash Brain ran 64 pitch gears, so that is one reason for the XRay spur. The one pictured looks like 48 pitch. While I don't know the exact reason, I would guess that the narrow gears allow him to off set his motor plate slightly more than the stock gears.
Oh, BTW Nice brace! :)
Brian likes being able to have more adjustment from the 64 pitch gears, he fits the largest gear he can on his truck. That and it sounds cooler than 48 pitch gears, more like a TC.
Wacker 2
10-04-2009, 08:40 PM
Does anybody know of a 64dp spur gear that can be fitted easliy on a B4/X6/S2??? That will allow the slipper plates to be fitted??? will the slipper plates need glueing to the spur gear???
Thanks, Jon
derek5
13-04-2009, 02:53 AM
Not just yet, they will be added to both the DMS site and X-Factory UK in the next few days with pricing and expected arrival (which will be in the coming few days anyhow)
Hi Darren, any news about the DDP023?
Darren Boyle
13-04-2009, 10:20 PM
This will be added to both the DMS and X-Factory UK sites when we return to work this coming week after our easter break...
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