Fair????

[TRF_Tastic]

Guys I need your thoughts on a subject.

DO you think its fair to loose your FTD if you havnt marshalled?

[xx4-nutter]

most definatly

[bigred5765]

i think it is as you could have cost some one there ftd through not marshaling

[footey]

defo

[DCM]

Definately, I also think you should lose your FTD for standing there, gassing to another marshal and not being attentive... and the BIGGEST no-no, is on the friggin mobile... I mean, can't it wait 5 mins?

[David Church]

Every drivers deserves to have his run marshalled!!! And the rules at this time state to loose your fastest time if you dont marshll. So this is how it should be!!!

[tc2k]

Definately. You always appreciate it when a marshall sorts your car out when you crash or a connector pops out so I think your obliged to marshall so they dont go through the same.

[Chrislong]

Its just selfish to not marshall, anybody caught should be locked in the stocks and have rotten tomatos thrown at them.

But seriously, everybody on the rostrum will expect the marshall to be at the post, and react to the roll - sometimes expecting the marshall to dive for the car before it has stopped tumbling, we have all done it, shouted, huffed and thought "the marshall cost me 3 seconds" when it is the mistake that caused the need for being marshalled.. Then for a driver to then ignore the marshall duties after any race... well, they must think the marshalls are there for just their own car and any other car that rolls is less important.... well it isn't.... but to be fair also, I can't think of anybody like this who I know - which is good. :)

Also, any 'top heat' driver who marshalls heat 1 and proceeds to ridicule the driving of that heat, I beleive should also be penalised.

[NeilD]

Thats a very good point.

[k£v!n]

im gogin for yes here as well, resson has already been covered really!

kev

[mark christopher]

yes from me, there there for you, you should be for them

[Body Paint]

100%, most definately, yes!

[AndyM]

definately yes, reasons are all up there, so i wont bore yoo by writin it agen, ;)

[bert digler]

is this a stupid question u race u marshall thats the rules:D

[spuddy]

you only don't marshall if you have a medical reason not to.
and it's not me.

[mark christopher]

me thinks he may have lost his ftd!!!

[alteredoggy]

Definately, I also think you should lose your FTD for standing there, gassing to another marshal and not being attentive... and the BIGGEST no-no, is on the friggin mobile... I mean, can't it wait 5 mins?
agreed. to much of that goes on

voted yes

[jim76]

ok, who is the one person who said no? no brave enough to give their reasons!
its ok for the driver not to marshall the next race (time consiming breakage etc) as long as they get their post covered by someone else i assume?

[alteredoggy]

its ok for the driver not to marshall the next race (time consiming breakage etc) as long as they get their post covered by someone else i assume?
as long as race control is informed yes

[telboy]

Yep, agreed. You should deffo marshal.
But I also think you should get a penalty for 'mouthing off' at the marshals when you crash......if you get taken out, then you have a reason to get mad, but if you make the mistake then you are just taking your 'self fustration' out on the marshal. Don't forget, if you didn't crash in the first place then the marshal wouldn't have to rush across a busy track risking his ankles ( or head if he marshals near a jump ) just to retrieve your car.

[Mxrider99]

FTD? i dunno what that stands for. lol

[spuddy]

FTD? i dunno what that stands for. lol
fastest time then I get lost.

[alteredoggy]

Fastest Time of the Day

[shinytopman]

The ears to the left say I !!!!

Something on that lines anyway....:p

[bert digler]

you only don't marshall if you have a medical reason not to.
and it's not me.

if u are incapacitated not to marshall u have a proxy marshall ie ur carer or someone willin nobody on earth has a problem helpin someone less fortunate than thereself 99% of guy or girls would not of even thought of that so i think thats a daft statement :(

[TRF_Tastic]

me thinks he may have lost his ftd!!!

Someone else lost their FTD and had a fit about it.

[spuddy]

if u are incapacitated not to marshall u have a proxy marshall ie ur carer or someone willin nobody on earth has a problem helpin someone less fortunate than thereself 99% of guy or girls would not of even thought of that so i think thats a daft statement :(
don't really know what you mean by daft as it's plainly obvious able bodied people will help.
I think that's what you said.

[Scouser]

Voted yes. You should definitely be penalised for not doing your part. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. I actually quite enjoy marshalling, depending on where you are on the track, you can see other peoples lines through your section and perhaps improve on your own run next time because of it. Trying to get out of marshalling, to me, is wierd.

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Yes you should lose your FTQ nobody likes doing it but it is part of racing. What Chris Long said is a valid point if you crash it is your fault not the marshals and shouting from the rostrum should not be tolerated. It can also help you if you are marshelling some of the top lads you are closer to the action and you can watch there lines(keeping an eye out for cars to marshal)

[loose]

I'm new so I like marshalling. Its a chance to learn and also to just enjoy watching the racing. So far I've not seen anyone lose their rag if they think a marshall is a bit slow but I've heard it happens. Personally I'd go slower if anyone spouted off at me.

Is people not marshalling really a big problem at some meeting?

[JCJC]

Its part of your race, you race, you marshall a race, one round completed, easy. Need to do something else instead of marshall - get someone to cover your marshall point. How difficult is that. Carn't be arsed, of course you should lose your FTQ, no point taking STQ !

[Straightspeed]

No brainer. (and I trust he who lost FTD also got stick trackside for not marshaling)

[Garry]

Ok, heres somthing to stir things up.

What about a (top) driver, who is perfectly able to marshall, but decides to get his mate/dad/uncle/girlfriend to marshall for him EVERY time?

Should his FTD go too?

[philly]

I can understand why someone might think it beneith them to marshal a race. Particularly the best racers who tend to get us novices snapping at their ankles. It's odd, though that those same 'pro's' seem to be the ones who complain most when a marshal doesn't see there car in trouble.
To be fair, I've only raced club nights at York and I haven't come up against this problem. Maybe everyone's just more chilled over there!:cool:

[Lee]

Ok, heres somthing to stir things up.

What about a (top) driver, who is perfectly able to marshall, but decides to get his mate/dad/uncle/girlfriend to marshall for him EVERY time?

Should his FTD go too?

I know what you mean but as long as the marshall has a brca membership there is nothing we can do. (that is the onroad rules anyway);)

[jim76]

I know what you mean but as long as the marshall has a brca membership there is nothing we can do. (that is the onroad rules anyway);)

exactly. as long as the post is covered and they have BRCA cover then it is fine. admittedly it is a bit lazy of them!

[Lindsay]

Please do not get me going on this subject .:mad: :mad: As a past BRCA Race Referee I am shocked that a person thinks they should not loose their FTD for not Marshalling at any MEETING. It is a pet hate of mine to see the poor standars of marshalling at 1/10 meetings these days.[ A lot worse in 1/8 Rally Cross ].

[Pembo]

Ok, heres somthing to stir things up.

What about a (top) driver, who is perfectly able to marshall, but decides to get his mate/dad/uncle/girlfriend to marshall for him EVERY time?

Should his FTD go too?

Not really, as a marshall is still being provided. As long as that marshall has BRCA insurance then its not an issue. Does the driver have a medical reason why he cant marshall?
I know of a several members who couldnt marshall for a period of time due to medical operations / back problems etc, but these problems are not obvious to onlookers and thus it looks like they are just being lazy.

[LiamD]

Not really, as a marshall is still being provided. As long as that marshall has BRCA insurance then its not an issue. Does the driver have a medical reason why he cant marshall?
I know of a several members who couldnt marshall for a period of time due to medical operations / back problems etc, but these problems are not obvious to onlookers and thus it looks like they are just being lazy.

Well, if they have a medical condition then they should have to get someone to marshall for them. If they don't, tough luck, you lose your time.

I will keep my mouth shut any further as my opinions on this aren't exactly... ...PC.

[TRF_Tastic]

I want to know who the 2 people that think that you shouldnt loose your FTQ/FTD for not marshalling are.

[jim76]

i doubt they will be brave enough to post. or they clicked "no" for a laugh to stir things up.

[BenG]

lol why bother?

No marshaling, no racing.

Those 2 slackers should be ashamed of themselves :D

There are only 2 reasons for not marshaling, i.e. if your unable to (broken arm e.t.c)

Or if you don't want to race;)

[daz]

Right the poll is YES or NO to lose your ftd..... The question i am going to ask if what if you are new to racing,and on your own. Then straight after your run you start turtling. Is this a valid reason that you cannot turn up to marshall!!! Hence do you lose your fastest time or not???

Whats more use? no marshall or a marshall with brown stuff running out of the bottom of there trousers. Could make the conditions a bit slippy and hinder even more racers getting a better time.

So for ths poll i put NO, im i right or wrong??

[mark christopher]

Right the poll is YES or NO to lose your ftd..... The question i am going to ask if what if you are new to racing,and on your own. Then straight after your run you start turtling. Is this a valid reason that you cannot turn up to marshall!!! Hence do you lose your fastest time or not???

Whats more use? no marshall or a marshall with brown stuff running out of the bottom of there trousers. Could make the conditions a bit slippy and hinder even more racers getting a better time.

So for ths poll i put NO, im i right or wrong??
easy loose time as all you need to do is turn marshal cone over and use that :p while still being at your marshal point

[daz]

That is a valid point but not all tracks use cones!!!! Another thought is to start supplying nappies at race control.

I know of a few people who would wear them ! Dont they make some really strechty ones now? Would be ideal for the most flexible marshalls.

[ashleyb4]

IM sure if you tell them in race control before the race you need to go relievr yourself they wont mind. But dont go into detail.

A:eh?:

[Pembo]

IM sure if you tell them in race control before the race you need to go relievr yourself they wont mind. But dont go into detail.

A:eh?:
They thend to say dont leave your marshall point until your releived by another marshall - Im beginning to see a scary side to this rule now :o

[buzz]

I want to know who the 2 people that think that you shouldnt loose your FTQ/FTD for not marshalling are.

I pressed wrong button! argggh! :wtf:

[bigred5765]

They thend to say dont leave your marshall point until your releived by another marshall - Im beginning to see a scary side to this rule now :o

then dont look under the cones??
not a good idea