B44 setups

[c0sie]

Anyone know where I can get some up-to-date setups for the B44? Indoors and outdoor (grass/astro) please?

Thanks :)

[jcb]

Not sure about Team driver setups but heres my final setup from the National at Eden Park where I finished 2nd in the C Final

Front:
45wt oil
Number 1 Piston
Silver Spring
Inside on shock tower, outside on wishbone

Camber link
inside on Carbon top plate with 2 small spacers
outside on hub carrier
-1 degree camber

Rear:
30wt oil
Number 1 piston
Silver spring
inside on shock tower, inside on wishbone

Camber Link
inside on Carbon top plate with 2 small spacers
Middle on hub carrier
-1 degree camber

1 Anti squat washer

kit roll bar

Medium Wheel Base

Rude Bits Battery Tray

Ride height - Front just below levelwishbones level, rear a smidge lower than the front.

Steering and any other bits I have missed will be per the manual

Hope that helps.

[Wraggy]

the team are pretty much running that but no2 piston in front shock and 40wt oil seems to be the order of the day currently

[c0sie]

Cheers gents, thats a good help :)

[millzy]

Chris I dont know if you are aware but this place called CML have a website with it all on.....might want to have a look- told they do some good cars too

[c0sie]

CML do amazing cars ;) Team Associated cars are the greatest!

However, there are only 2 setup sheets on the site, hence me looking around this FINE forum for further information :) :)

[millzy]

Yes there cakes are very good.

rep is a tit

[Arn0]

Have a look here (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10B44.html), there is more than two setups.

Both Jonathan and Pidge setups on, provide feedbck in case of bad transcript, cheers!

Hope that's help!

[c0sie]

Arn0,
Thanks for the link, its a great help :)

Cris

[zaquiz]

Lee or anyone else, which was the "team" setup for de B4 @ Eden? Around what weight were your running?

[c0sie]

As far as I know......
Pidge's Reedy 4200's weigh about 270g (with wires), and his Rudebits brass weighs about 130g....so that area is about 400g.

There is so little difference between ESC's, motors and servos to make any significant difference so id aim for the back end of your car to have about 400g in weight around the cell area and then just stick your electrics in?

Thats what im doing...although im ever so slightly not as good as Pidge is :)

[c0sie]

Also,
I noticed that all those setup sheets indicate running a diff up front, yet other posts ive seen on this forum say that people would never run fixed 4WD over a one-way due to handling?

Anyone? One-way or fixed for the UK (indoors and outdoors)

[Belsten]

I always ran the diff, tried the one way a couple of times but didnt like it. Some people swear by them, others dont, I think its more of a personal preference thing although im prepared to be shot down :)

[markwilliamson2001]

If you use a one-way, the NTC3 Heavy Duty one can be used. I think wezzer might have used a Yokomo one, and changed the bevel gear somehow. Best off checking with him Cris.

M.

[jcb]

Have a look here (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10B44.html), there is more than two setups.

Both Jonathan and Pidge setups on, provide feedbck in case of bad transcript, cheers!

Hope that's help!


well thats saved me a job of hand writing one out, thanks :D

No front roll bar though and the front diff would be slightly tighter than the rear. Will try and work out what the ride height settings were properly over the weekend seeing as it's all professionally done ;)

[Arn0]

No front roll bar though and the front diff would be slightly tighter than the rear. Will try and work out what the ride height settings were properly over the weekend seeing as it's all professionally done ;)
Change done. Let me know about the ride height ;)

This thread worst to be or sticked or merged with this one (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1049), no??

[c0sie]

I think we should keep this thread for B44 setups as the other thread is mainly about the B4??

Thats if Jimmy dont mind?

[Mike Hudson]

Maybe this could be made into a sticky setups just for the B44?

[c0sie]

Setup im currently using indoors (slippery polished concrete, carpet, rumbles).

Front:
Losi red pistons in Losi shocks
AE 40wt oil
Losi black springs (or blue if softer springs are needed)
Inner hole on tower
Outer hole on arm
Ackerman as kit
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff tightened till it will rotate but not slip

Rear:
Losi orange pistons in Losi shocks
AE 30wt oil
Losi pink springs
Inner hole on tower
Inner hole on arm
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff slightly looser than front
Antisquat as kit
2mm gurney

GTB with 6.5L, 18/78 (Settings per default, reverse off)
Ino-Lab servo
TrakPower 3200 LiPo's
Rudebits brass LiPo tray and straps
Schumacher yellow minipins with medium green inserts

[jcb]

Change done. Let me know about the ride height ;)

This thread worst to be or sticked or merged with this one (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1049), no??


22mm front and 20mm rear

[Arn0]

22mm front and 20mm rear
Jonathan, i did upgrade your setup ;)

Cris, yours is online too.

Please, refer to message 8 to see both setups (http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=259949&postcount=8)

Thanks and I hope that help you guys! :)

[MHeadling]

I am looking for a set up for the B44 for polished wood floor, a guy at Faversham club runs blue front springs/green rears and a silver rear roll bar.

I was looking for any set up help with camber link position/spacing?

Shock set up ?

Any extra weight on the car? I am running the rude bits battery tray.

Thanks in advance :thumbsup:

[c0sie]

Polished floor I swear by yellow mini spikes, green inserts.
Wes used to thrash a B44 on the polished floor at Ludlow..if he reads this he'll probably help no end :)

[c0sie]

And whilst were at it....

Under what circumstances are people running the brass tray and straps sperately, and as a combo?

[MHeadling]

Cosie, what springs/oils/camber link positions were you guys running on the polished floor?

[alexb4]

Has anyone got a setup for the B44 for worksop as first time racing there and new car thanks Alex

[michaelfox]

Setup im currently using indoors (slippery polished concrete, carpet, rumbles).

Front:
Losi red pistons in Losi shocks
AE 40wt oil
Losi black springs (or blue if softer springs are needed)
Inner hole on tower
Outer hole on arm
Ackerman as kit
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff tightened till it will rotate but not slip

Rear:
Losi orange pistons in Losi shocks
AE 30wt oil
Losi pink springs
Inner hole on tower
Inner hole on arm
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff slightly looser than front
Antisquat as kit
2mm gurney

GTB with 6.5L, 18/78 (Settings per default, reverse off)
Ino-Lab servo
TrakPower 3200 LiPo's
Rudebits brass LiPo tray and straps
Schumacher yellow minipins with medium green inserts

hey can you tell what losi shocks you use?
and are they worth the upgrade?
stock towers or these ones?
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?products_id=7652

[markwilliamson2001]

Here's my Final setup from Caldicot Indoors Christmas Bash 2010...

B44 Caldicot Setup (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/LFP7yk5HiubP1A_-Ky07tQ?feat=directlink)

Just to confirm, I ran the rudebits lipo tray, but not the straps. Depending on the weight of your lipo's, I would run about 100-150 grams extra around the rear end/lipo cells. My lipo cells are very light (230g without wires), so would really like to have run both Rudebits tray AND straps, but didn't have any straps for today. Car was more 'steery' as the grip came up in the last two qualifiers. If your running the reedy lipos, just run the tray, and see how it goes.

My car is also almost a B44.1, bar new chassis layout, and shock bodies!
Hope this helps anyone.

[supersonic]

I'm just getting my B44.1 ready for indoor carpet track.
What springs do you guys use? How many shock limiters inside the shocks?

What is a good starting point?

nic

[Bradders]

Here's my final setup from the weekend.....

[RoyalCBR]

Can anyone lend me some advice on setting my B44, more from the motor, gearing side of things?

Currently I have an LRP 10.5t motor and ESC, but not sure what is best in terms of gearing - will be running Lipos

Cheers, Mark

[markwilliamson2001]

Indoors or outside? Tight or open track? If indoors, I would start around 24 tooth pinion. Outside the 10.5 will be slow, I would at least get a 7.5 motor, on a 22/23 tooth pinion.

Hope this helps!

[RoyalCBR]

At the moment indoors, with various different surface types - but I think the summer season is coming, so might be racing outdoors on Astro turf - cheers for the tip though.

[Whiskers]

What brand shock oils are people using on their setup sheets?

[Rob_B]

What brand shock oils are people using on their setup sheets?

I would say associated.

[gainsy]

Looking for a set up for Stotfold please guys for a B44
Cheers
Gainsy

[Whiskers]

I would say associated.

Does anybody have a AE to Losi oil chart?

[MiCk B.]

Here's one (http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/OilChart.pdf).

MiCk B. :-)

[Whiskers]

Here's one (http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/OilChart.pdf).

MiCk B. :-)

Thanks :thumbsup:

[oli4ke]

Hi,

I have a questions concerning a brushless engine, esc and servo for my new B44.1

What is is the best buy / combo lately?

BTW: Do you guys use saddle packs for the B44 (.1)?

Any advise / experience is highly appreciated!

Cheers

[gainsy]

Only saddle packs fit in the b44/.1
Personally i use a Novak gtb & a orion 5.5t which is ballistic & fits in nicely, got them off this site for less than a ton :)
Im sure the more experienced guys on here would be able to offer better advice but thought i would say about the lipo's anyway
Hope you enjoy the car, i love mine :))

[Ckapp]

Hi anyone got a set-up for kiddy?? :thumbsup:

[Gaz_Stanton]

Hi anyone got a set-up for kiddy?? :thumbsup:

Good place to start :thumbsup:

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/AS9061/setups/B44.1-Bradders-2011-BRCA-RHR.pdf

[uijui]

Hello,

Setup for carpet? With mini spikes...which inserts?

Thanks

[evertonal]

Does anyone run the blue springs on the front of their B44.1? I have tried to use Tom Yardy's set up where he uses the blue front springs, but I have found that the car sits too high at the front, but when I put the silver springs back on, the ride height goes back to approx. 20mm. Has anyone tried cutting a coil off the blue springs? Any help would be appreciated.

[aeb4]

Does anyone run the blue springs on the front of their B44.1? I have tried to use Tom Yardy's set up where he uses the blue front springs, but I have found that the car sits too high at the front, but when I put the silver springs back on, the ride height goes back to approx. 20mm. Has anyone tried cutting a coil off the blue springs? Any help would be appreciated.
I haven't tried it, but have you tried using a standard spring cup i.e. off a B4, rather than the offset spring cup that is standard?

[evertonal]

No, but I will try the std spring cups.

[MiCk B.]

Yep,

Try the standard spring cups. I've run blue springs on the front of the B44, but can't remember what spring cups I used.

(If you cut the spring you will make it stiffer.)

MiCk B. :-)

[gazhillAE]

Does anyone run the blue springs on the front of their B44.1? I have tried to use Tom Yardy's set up where he uses the blue front springs, but I have found that the car sits too high at the front, but when I put the silver springs back on, the ride height goes back to approx. 20mm. Has anyone tried cutting a coil off the blue springs? Any help would be appreciated.

Have you tried winding the collars up higher!
Think you will find that's spot on!
Failing that use kyosho yellow or silver front springs more consistent!

[Adam Talbot]

this info is great but could someone post some latest set ups for astro please as i've just got mine!

[MOmo]

Has anyone experimented with a 1way or Spool for Carpet?


MOmo