Have you received Nationals Entry confirmation?

[ashleyb4]

Kiddy - R11
Bury - r7
OZ - R15
Southport - R9

How did everyone else get on?

This is just poo i never got a race last year and more than likely i wont get a racethis year.:(

A

[ashleyb4]

Why didnt they just send me a big piece of paper with F off writen on it with my cheque in it.

A

[losixxx]

you need to do some regional's ash, get your license grade up, mind u saying things like stupid BRCA won't help

[ashleyb4]

I know its just so annoying that i didnt even get in one it was the smae case last year:(. That is why this year im doing all 2 and 2wd regionals and im going to get my F3


When did i say the BRCA where stupid i love the BRCA;)

A

[pro4nut]

Look at it as a rite of passage thing Ashley. This will be my third year doing regionals and i might consider trying to do nationals next year but i know i am not really good enough. I finished my first year dead last and went from F5 to F5.... Last year i made F3 in 4wd but i have to say my 2wd driving leaves a lot to be desired. I did go to the F3's and had a great time made the C final in 4wd, my cars even made it onto oople, which was cool.
Crawl - Stagger - Walk - Run

[tc2k]

Dont think you can expect to be in the nationals if your still F5 which I assume you are.
I wouldnt bother applying for nationals until I was F3, I might never do them. Regionals are great and you can get up to F2 in them, why not do lots of regionals to get your formula rating up instead of moaning because you didnt make nationals.

[ashleyb4]

Do people not read posts i have already said im going to do loads of regionals and i am going for my F3 but nationals are in a total diffrent league to regionals cus you stay there all day and drink and have fun and relax after racing and you see a diffrent side to people. People who you think are really serious sort of wake up nad become totally mad this i what i love about nationals where regionals as soon as it is over everyone is tidied up and in the car in a split second there is a totally diffrent atmoshere.

A

[tc2k]

Regionals do last all day. I imagine regionals are more relaxed than nationals as theres less people so its not as competitive.

[losixxx]

Do people not read posts i have already said im going to do loads of regionals and i am going for my F3 but nationals are in a total diffrent league to regionals cus you stay there all day and drink and have fun and relax after racing and you see a diffrent side to people. People who you think are really serious sort of wake up nad become totally mad this i what i love about nationals where regionals as soon as it is over everyone is tidied up and in the car in a split second there is a totally diffrent atmoshere.

A


ash what the hell are you on about, english please, you know all this by attending 1 national at oswestry. at the end of the day if your coming last at regional then as long as your arse points down you shouldnt be doing nationals. think you will find it very hard to gain f3 in west mids in your first year

[Mrs oOple]

Try not to worry too much Ashley, it is still early days yet. I think we all knew that we mere lower grades would struggle to get into the national events, but still being a reserve at least means they haven't told you where to go ;)
I was a reserve at most nationals last year, and was offered a place much closer to the event.
So keep your fingers and toes crossed and make sure Jackie etc has the right telephone number for you!
Good luck, I am sure you'll get into some more,
Vicky x

[ashleyb4]

Its not my first year its my second off road and my 3rd in total i just need to get the track time in and i noticed it at oswestry cus i recognised people from scrutanering then i saw them at night ands it was like they where total diffrent people. Nationals are awsoem and i love them and i want to do more.

A

[Mrs oOple]

On a similar note Ashley, we haven't even heard anything back yet! I wasn't expecting to quite so soon, it doesn't seem like long since we sent the entry form in, although I realise the deadline was this week.

Has anyone else received their entry packs? Ashley are you in for Tiverton 2wd and 4wd?

[bigred5765]

just got ours in the post, were in both class's and event thanks god for that,:)

[ashleyb4]

nope vicky i didnt enter tivvy and stotfold the only reason i wanted to get in cus i have good friend who i would only see at nationals as they are from a diffrent regions. Maybe i could sweet talk jackie.:)

A

[jimmy]

If it makes you feel better ash, vicky is only F5 - and I am only F4. I am not sure I will get into my races either. I was F3 last year and F4 the year before- but things were different when I started doing nationals in 2003, its just got more and more popular.

[modelimages]

the brca are not to blame for your lack of preparation, there are only 24 hours in a day which means you can only fit in so many races, there is a limit of 130 racers in 13 heats, quite rightly as it is the national event we want to see the top tier of drivers, all the drivers are graded either on their performance over the previous national year and who gained F1 or national F2 grades (in 4wd this went down to at least position 55) then the racers who completed their regional series and gained F2 to f5. everybody knew last year that to ensure a place you really needed to be an F3. you did not do regionals and to be honest racing at the nationals should not include drivers without the sort of experience you gain from doing regionals. so you can blame all the F1 to f4's who applied this year and you can blame yourself for not doing regionals just don't blame the brca.
john

[ryan]

Mine didn't come today, hopefully it will be here Monday. Last year i was an F5 and was reserve for nearly every meeting, but i turned up on the day and got into everyone. This year i am an F3 so hopefully i will be in to a few more if not all.

Ryan

[Col]

I have never applied for any nationals and am probably never going to, but I heard that your application was taken more seriously if you tried to get into every event (which indicates you are less likely to drop out) Is this true?

[dan_kitty]

how do you check what formula grade you are, i cant see anything on the brca site?

cheers

[modelimages]

not quite true, priority is given to applicants who apply to do enough scoring rounds ie 4, if you only apply for one or two then it is unlikely you will get in, that said joe only applied for 5 nationals last year as an f4 got into 4 and was 19th reserve for the last one, he was given a place quite quickly after only a couple of nationals, so i wouldnt be too concerned about being a reserve for the later nationals.

[modelimages]

how do you check what formula grade you are, i cant see anything on the brca site?

cheers
it should be available from your regional site or rep

[woOdy]

I have had mine.

[bert digler]

Do people not read posts i have already said im going to do loads of regionals and i am going for my F3 but nationals are in a total diffrent league to regionals cus you stay there all day and drink and have fun and relax after racing and you see a diffrent side to people. People who you think are really serious sort of wake up nad become totally mad this i what i love about nationals where regionals as soon as it is over everyone is tidied up and in the car in a split second there is a totally diffrent atmoshere.

A

plenty of bcl events when nationals on mate good practice at different tracks

[Northy]

Where's mine? :(

G

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Dont have mine yet G either.

[super__dan]

I've just realised I applied when I lived in my old house, oops! Best email Paul I think.

Dan

[emzy]

None for me either. Post takes a while to get this far north!

[tyreman]

Not seen any here either yet.

Emzeh it only has to come from Bolton so no too far north.

[k£v!n]

got mine today, didnt get into any, maybe next year :D

Kev

[PaulRotheram]

Got my entry confirmation today, in for both classes and all events.

Just sit tight ashley.. people will always drop out.. I think Vicky was somthing mad like 15th on the list last year.. and got in?

[David Church]

I am in for both classes, so is Darners, sweeeeeeeeeeet!!!:cool:

[Chrislong]

Ash, you can still attend and soak up the atmosphere at each event.

I know you had your heart set on doing each one, sorry that you didn't get in mate. Like someone said earlier, one step at a time, im sure your sick of hearing that now... but anyway, stay calm, be nice to Jackie and keep everything crossed!

I was lucky to start doing nationals as an F4 before they became oversubscribed. I suppose being on the reserve list is just something which will happen now our class is so popular.

Chris

[ashleyb4]

I will keep everything crossed and i will get on with these regionals get my car dialled get my thumbs dialled and get my f3 so i have a good chance of getting in.

A

[Mrs oOple]

That's the right attitude Ashley, and thanks to Chris for your encouraging words as well.
It's still only the first day of entry confirmation, plenty of time yet, and like Chris says, even if you aren't racing you can still attend, I am sure there will be loads of people who would appreciate pitting help! Even better there might be a last minute availability.

[ashleyb4]

Yea chris is very good with words and his advice is always good.

Any advice chris has ever given me has always made things better.

A

[_JP_]

Ash if you think nationals are good, you should go to the euros what a laugh we had every night at the hotel :)

Ash if you make F3 you should get into Nationals next year easy!

[ashleyb4]

It will be a couple of years time before i go to the euro's but i like the idea.

A

[OldTimer]

At one of the nationals last year i was 18th on the reserve list, and got the call from jackie there was a space if i wanted it ;) so don't give up you stand a good chance of getting in for a few meetings.

[strobe]

Ash.
Go to the meetings with your kit.
I was reserve for both 2wd and 4wd at Southport and Batley last year and got to race all four.
Some racers don,t bother to inform Jacquie that they are not attending. See jacquie before booking in starts to let her know you are there with your kit and rareing to race.
Even if you don't get to race im sure Oswestry members could do with your help during the weekend, marshalling for them if they have a major car rebuild or turning there cars on/off.
Keep the faith Ash and those fingers crossed.

Mark

[Wraggy]

got my confirmation of entry's today http://www.doughtyuk.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif
applied for all 6, 2 & 4wd and have only got in 2wd tiverton and thats it !!!!
not a happy bunny

[ashleyb4]

what researve are you in each event.

A

[Wraggy]

tivvy 4wd im 10th the rest are all above that
kiddy r 16 2wd r 13 4wd
bury r 12 2wd r11 4wd
osw r20 2wd r19 4wd
sth port r14 2wd r15 4wd
stot r13 2wd r18 4wd .

[strobe]

Paul what licence grade are you.
James Bunn applied for all six events, 2 and 4wd and has only got into Tiverton 2wd. On the reserve list for the others. 1st reserve for a couple of events.
Doesn't look good for F5's at the moment. Not many getting into the nationals.
Hoping the postie brings some good news tomorrow and being an F4 driver i have got in ok. Fingers crossed.

[Rob]

I'm in same position, am reserve which varies from R4 to R12, will hope and see, but hope I hear something at least a week before each meeting as I like to be organised and have everything ready.

Just big change for me as have been doing 1/12 and rallycross nationals and it was just a matter of first come first served with regards to national entries. They don't have regionals etc.

[jimmy]

I just figured out that because I only enterered 2 2WD nationals (vicky entered to do all 6) that I don't get preference despite the fact I entered 4 4wd nationals. Ah!.
So while vicky is Reserve 15 at bury metro 2wd - I am r24 !!!! :(
The only nationals we are 'in' is Tiverton and I am also in for bury metro 4WD.

What shall we do miss vicky? There's always Truggys! haha

[Mrs oOple]

8th scale nationals it is then! :D

[jimmy]

lol, that would be even harder to get in! in fact - with all honesty I don't even know how to enter an 8th national - its really confusing.
I think there is supposed to be a Truggy national series this year possibly

[Oscar]

- I am r24 !!!! :(


That means at least 154 people tried to enter for Bury :o:o

I got all my confirmations Friday.

Jimmy, you need to actually turn up to enough regionals me thinks;)

[jimmy]

haha, true!!!
I should have taken depressing-looking photos and written reports saying how crap nationals are - :D Then I might have got a place! :p:p:p

[jimmy]

Blumming truggy nationals are full also! whats goin on! :(

[Chrislong]

I haven't had mine yet, we seem to be at the end of the postie's round so I am hoping it is on my doorstep when I get home from work... :confused:

[RLGfx]

i didn't even try...

they'd have probably just pointed and laughed...

[jimmy]

Oh well, it should be a good series me thinks and we'll be at 2/3 at least I think

[losixxx]

just got mine, in for all

[wacattack]

Eyup peeps, I got my letter back for the Nationals and I only got into 1. However, im placed 2,4,6,6 and 10 for some of the other rounds.

How far down the reserve list does a typical national go? Am i likely to get into any?

[BenG]

I should imagine you'll get into the 2 and 4 one. Think about how many people attend nationals, theres bound to be a few who cant go;)

[Lee]

I never got into any, i am reserve in every one, unless i get confirmed an entry before the event i really dont think i will be attending them:rolleyes: i dont fancy driving from durham to tiverton on a gamble i might get in:(

Regionals i think for me and then my assault on the nats next year;)

[tyreman]

I never got into any, i am reserve in every one, unless i get confirmed an entry before the event i really dont think i will be attending them:rolleyes: i dont fancy driving from durham to tiverton on a gamble i might get in:(

Regionals i think for me and then my assault on the nats next year;)

They call a week before the meeting to let you know if you are in or not.

[jimmy]

There is definitely enough club and regional racing around to keep most happy - I didn't do enough regionals which is why I'm not in the Nats this year. The Truggy Nationals seem to coincide with the Regionals a bit- So if I do those then I definitely wouldn't get into Nationals next year. What a dilemma!
Still - there's always tiverton to look forward to, anyone can get in there! :D

[Mrs oOple]

i wasn't anticipating coming back for any regionals next year Jimmy!:p

[bigred5765]

we got ares in for all both class's

[super__dan]

Wayne, I think you will DEFO get in the 2,4 and 6's, people down to 13th etc so I also think you'll get in the 10 one too to be honest. Lets hope they mark all croner apex's at nationals eh so you can't accidentally keep stealing a yard and bump into me eh ;)

[wacattack]

Wayne, I think you will DEFO get in the 2,4 and 6's, people down to 13th etc so I also think you'll get in the 10 one too to be honest. Lets hope they mark all croner apex's at nationals eh so you can't accidentally keep stealing a yard and bump into me eh ;)

hehe!! I marshalled next to that corner and looked at the line I took and there was no cutting of the track, I just took a tighter line so it was perfectly valid hehe!!

However I must say I was quite aggressive in the corner and do apologise for my coming together with you, I take full responsibility!!

[JCJC]

Well Jordan's an F4, we race at our regional's, this year we entered 3 Nationals and are on reserve in the higher 20's !

I do not feel that we do not deserve to get in because we are not good enough, hell, we pay our fees, spend loads of money on cars and tires and bits and are "well involved" at our level. We are part of this sport and enjoy it.

What about one less heat or only two leg A finals to allow more racers ?

[ryan]

Got mine today and got in for all 5 i entered, Booking in caravan i got the last space at Stotfold!!!:D:D:D

Ryan

[losixxx]

there's already at least 130 racers and at some venues that's too many due to pitting space.
its a national series so cutting corners just isnt on and at the end of the day its for the top drivers in the uk so the f1/f2/f3's will get priority thats the whole point of the license grade just because you spend loads of money and are well involved doesnt and shouldnt count for anything really!
plus as you only entered 3 events out of 6 you will go to the bottom of the pile of f4's wishing to enter, plus to say ''I do not feel that we do not deserve to get in because we are not good enough'' is wrong, all the f1/2/3's that got in are better that's why they got a higher license grade thats why they got in, thats why we do a regional series to make things fare!

[JCJC]

Yes, I am begining to see that we should have entered all 6, then dropped a few, I am sure this is why we will eventually get to race at some of the venues we have entered.

[losixxx]

thats a bit off really entering all 6 knowing you have no intention of doing them and stopping someone who wants to do all the events from getting in...nice

[ashleyb4]

listenning to some people im quiet lucky to be where i am on the researve list


hehe and im an f5

A:p :D :o

[JCJC]

Yep, its what we did not do, but thought you were suggesting.......

[Mrs oOple]

I don't think he meant it like that... I presume that those who enter all 6 just to secure themselves with a place at the few they DO want to attend, will cancel early on so that other racers can make their way up the reserve list?

[modelimages]

i think all the reservists out there need to bear in mind that many people sent off there entries a couple of months ago, holidays had not been booked, the wedding day for your sister/brother etc wasn't planned and a lot applied for all knowing that they would not do some, you also have the racers who gained f2 or f3 at regionals who have never raced at national level and having done one find that they don't like it or are out of there depth, so don't despair you will probably get in

[Chrislong]

I got in for all, both classes.

Bring it on! Its this time of year I can't wait for the first national, heck I am already planning, have my tyres and hotels booked weeks ago! :D

The way the BRCA allot the entries is very fair, there is no favouritism, and the only presidenting factor being the 'F' grade which is what we aim for, isn't it? If it isn't, then don't complain, spend a season working at it and try again for 2008.

I hate threads like this. The BRCA committee work hard, and no matter what they can't please all, although they try to, and to read this thread must be very dis-heartening.

[Mrs oOple]

I don't think this thread was intended as a dig at the BRCA Chris, I think some people who haven't got into the events they hoped to may feel a little disheartened and unfortunately that may come out as negative feelings towards the BRCA. I realise it is very difficult to cater for absolutely everyone who wants to race, but hopefully as each race draws closer some of those racers who thought they had no hope of getting in, will get that phone call from Jackie :)

[jimmy]

Chris only says that because he knows full well he'd have a tantrum worse than anyone if he for some reason didn't get into the nationals! :D

[JCJC]

Whoops….we love the BRCA, we can see they work hard – and mostly on a voluntary basis, any comments I have made that may seem to be knocking the management I will apologise for, we are well down the list on reserves, 31 I think at Oswestry, and there may be others below us, that’s 160+ entries……… Think you are doing well Ash.

[Chrislong]

Chris only says that because he knows full well he'd have a tantrum worse than anyone if he for some reason didn't get into the nationals! :D

LOL, you know me well! :D

[OldTimer]

Last year i was a F5 and tried to enter for 4 nationals, i was in the teens on the reserve list for all of them, but i had the call from Jackie the week before for Batley and Telford so got to race at two of them.

I did the Mid West regionals last year and gained my F3 licence, i have entered for all 6 4wd meetings, and had the letter this morning saying i was in for all of them.

So if you do your regionals and get your F3 you stand a lot better chance of getting in.

[Bathy]

I'm in, I can manage a maximum of 12 bottom finals this year... bring it on!

[jimmy]

There is only one way I could get assured of a place at Nationals, and that's to leave my camera at home and forget about race reports altogether:confused:

[Bathy]

I just figured out that because I only enterered 2 2WD nationals (vicky entered to do all 6) that I don't get preference despite the fact I entered 4 4wd nationals. Ah!.
So while vicky is Reserve 15 at bury metro 2wd - I am r24 !!!! :(
The only nationals we are 'in' is Tiverton and I am also in for bury metro 4WD.

What shall we do miss vicky? There's always Truggys! haha

That's a bugga, so you entered all six events in total just 4 - 4wd's and 2 - 2wd events huh? On the day you can drive my 2wd heats for me if you like*




*only kidding!

[jimmy]

yeah vicky entered all 6 2wd tho - I only entered a few so I could concentrate on doin some reporting. :wtf: bit of a mistake on my part there.

[neiloliver]

I am in all six 2WD (although Oswestry is R2.. but i take it as read that two people will drop out).. trust me to get reserve for my home track!

This is only because I managed to get my F4 by the skin of my teeth

Cant wait! - gettin all excited now... better go start painting my new shell..

Neil :)

ps.. takes another opportunity to plug the Oswestry Videos from 2006 (again).......

http://www.oswestryrcc.org.uk/Videos.htm

[bert digler]

im in all 6 2 and 4wd woooooooopppppppppaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnn
:D

[ashleyb4]

I am in all six 2WD (although Oswestry is R2.. but i take it as read that two people will drop out).. trust me to get reserve for my home track!

This is only because I managed to get my F4 by the skin of my teeth

Cant wait! - gettin all excited now... better go start painting my new shell..

Neil :)

ps.. takes another opportunity to plug the Oswestry Videos from 2006 (again).......

http://www.oswestryrcc.org.uk/Videos.htm

Cool to see you are in them all neil. That video is the best. I hope this year is as good or if not better than last year.

A

ps you have mail.

[Spencer Mulcahy]

I have been on tenter hooks all day at work, posty comes late. When I got home there was the letter on the mat I opened it with beads of sweat running down my forehead. My hands clutched the envelope quivering with antisipation I opened one corner......... OH BUGGER IT I AM IN FOR ALL SIX,BOTH CLASSES YEEEEEEEEEHHHHAAAAAAWWWW.:) :D :D :)

[bigred5765]

well done
johnny the bullet fatpants


no its not a spelling mistake

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Pot and kettle eh Carl.:) :)

[bigred5765]

lol heheheheh
glad to see u at a few more than last year though mate, cant wait to get out side,but I'm sure in 3-4 moths time we will wanna be inside again lol

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Yea going to be good this year. If you have time on Saturday will you have a look at the shocks on my xx4 Woody told me off the other week about them being crap tried to sort them but they still sound like a family of mice live in them, need to know how to fill them properly cheers:)

[PaulRotheram]

No chance, Outdoor racing for ever !! :) :D

[emzy]

but I'm sure in 3-4 moths time we will wanna be inside again lol

No chance!! Outdoors "4EVA". :p

I think Chilean's race outdoors all year round! Whoop!

[bigred5765]

lol would if your licence will count out there
i heard they race hamsters and Ginnie pigs
wonder if they put them in wheels first

[losixxx]

lol would if your licence will count out there
i heard they race hamsters and Ginnie pigs
wonder if they put them in wheels first

not in wheels but on the BBQ